A women being whipped for wearing trouser under Burqa

[billo786]

 

[Raaz]

سوڈان :برقعے کے نیچے ٹراؤزرپہننے پرخاتون &

Caution : بات ہے رسوائی کی - سوڈان :برقعے کے نیچے ٹراؤزرپہننے پرخاتون کو کوڑوں کی سزا

سوڈان کی پولیس طالبان بن گئی۔ اہلکاروں نے خاتون کوصرف برقعے کے نیچے ٹراؤزرپہننے پرسرعام کوڑوں کی سزاکا نشانہ بنایا ہے۔ سوڈان کی ایک عدالت نے خاتون کو سرعام کوڑے مارنے کی وڈیو منظر عام پر آنے کے بعد واقعہ کی تحقیقات کا حکم دے دیا ہے۔ فوٹیج میں دکھایا گیا ہے کہ سوڈانی پولیس کے کچھ اہلکارایک خاتون کو محض اس لئے کوڑے مار رہے کہ اس نے برقعے کے نیچے ٹراؤزرپہن رکھا تھا۔ عدالت کے مطابق سزا آئین کی شق 154اور 155کے مطابق تھی۔ مگر بظاہر غیراخلاقی انداز میں دی گئی ہے۔ خاتون کو کوڑے مارتے وقت کچھ اہلکار قہقہے لگاتے بھی دکھائی دیتےہیں۔ فوٹیج سے اندازہ ہوتا ہے کہ خاتون کو کسی عمارت کی پارکنگ میں سرعام سزادی جارہی ہے۔ جسے آس پاس موجود درجنوں افراد کھڑے دیکھ رہےہیں۔ شمالی سوڈان میں خواتین کو سرعام سزائیں دینے کا رواج عام ہے۔​

Watch video:
http://www.dunyanews.tv/player/play_video_eng.php?id=18308

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

Re: سوڈان :برقعے کے نیچے ٹراؤزرپہننے پرخاتون &

its copy of our swat story. and out-come & reason of story we know.

this is my feeling about above news. i maybe wrong.

 

[KhanHaripur]

women rights in so Called Civilized World ( USA )

 

[adnan_swati]

well this cant be encouraged at all. although covering body is essential for women .skynews should also tell us about number of daily rapes in USA

 

[adnan_swati]

women rights in so Called Civilized World ( USA )

how would skynews and billo786(who posted this thread) and dunya news respond to this .well pakistani media cant show this becuz they are also afraid of there GODS

 

[atensari]

پولیس کے پاس ماورآے عدالت اقدام کرنے کا اختیار نہیں ہے

 

[Pakistani1947]

A significant development in Islamic law between the 11th and 14th centuries CE was the approach to legal purpose known as the Maqasid theory. Imam Ghazzali (d. 1111) argued from a holistic reading of the Qur'an that the purpose of Sharia was to fundamentally preserve five matters: faith, life, wealth, intellect and family. This development occurred six centuries before John Locke's articulation of a similar approach to law in England. Over the next three centuries after Ghazzali, theologians such as Ibn Taymiyyah added a number of other fundamental purposes of law: preservation of reputations, neighbourhoods and communities; fulfilment of contracts; moral purity; trustworthiness; the love of God. Shatibi (of Jativa, Andalusia, d. 1388) explicitly synthesised traditionalist and rationalist approaches but Islamic legal theory and practice, once centuries ahead of other civilisations, fell into relative decline for the next half-millenium.

The last century of Islamic legal thinking carries more hope, however. Recent thinkers have suggested that the following are legal purposes that must be protected and promoted by Sharia: fundamental human rights and liberties; public welfare; education; scientific and medical research; the environment.

Dr. Auda maintains that, for Islamic rulings to fulfil their original purposes of justice, freedom, rights, common good and tolerance in today's context, the Maqasid theory must be presented as the heart, and the very philosophy, of Islamic law.

As Imam Izz al-Din b. Abdul-Salam of Egypt (d. 660/1262), "the Sultan of the Scholars," expressed it, "The greatest of all the objectives of the Qur'aan is to facilitate benefits and the means that secure them ... Every action that misses its purpose is void ... when you study how the purposes of the law bring good and prevent mischief, you realise that it is unlawful to overlook any common good or support any act of mischief in any situation, even if you have no specific evidence from the scripture, consensus, or analogy."

Or, as Imam Ibn al-Qayyim (d. 751/1351) (one of Ibn Taymiya’s students) of Syria put it, "The Islamic Law is all about wisdom and achieving peoples welfare in this life and the afterlife. It is all about justice, mercy, wisdom, and good. Thus, any ruling that replaces justice with injustice, mercy with its opposite, common good with mischief, or wisdom with nonsense, is a ruling that does not belong to the Islamic Law, even if it is claimed to be so according to some interpretation."


Source: http://www.thecitycircle.com/past-e...-spirit-of-islamic-law-the-maqasid-al-shariah

 

[mahmoodsani]

not good.............................................................

 

[shah sb]

why we people don't accept the reality this is our true face.....these are not the teaching of islam at all.

 

[QaiserMirza]

A significant development in Islamic law between the 11th and 14th centuries CE was the approach to legal purpose known as the Maqasid theory. Imam Ghazzali (d. 1111) argued from a holistic reading of the Qur'an that the purpose of Sharia was to fundamentally preserve five matters: faith, life, wealth, intellect and family. This development occurred six centuries before John Locke's articulation of a similar approach to law in England. Over the next three centuries after Ghazzali, theologians such as Ibn Taymiyyah added a number of other fundamental purposes of law: preservation of reputations, neighbourhoods and communities; fulfilment of contracts; moral purity; trustworthiness; the love of God. Shatibi (of Jativa, Andalusia, d. 1388) explicitly synthesised traditionalist and rationalist approaches but Islamic legal theory and practice, once centuries ahead of other civilisations, fell into relative decline for the next half-millenium.

The last century of Islamic legal thinking carries more hope, however. Recent thinkers have suggested that the following are legal purposes that must be protected and promoted by Sharia: fundamental human rights and liberties; public welfare; education; scientific and medical research; the environment.

Dr. Auda maintains that, for Islamic rulings to fulfil their original purposes of justice, freedom, rights, common good and tolerance in today's context, the Maqasid theory must be presented as the heart, and the very philosophy, of Islamic law.

As Imam Izz al-Din b. Abdul-Salam of Egypt (d. 660/1262), "the Sultan of the Scholars," expressed it, "The greatest of all the objectives of the Qur'aan is to facilitate benefits and the means that secure them ... Every action that misses its purpose is void ... when you study how the purposes of the law bring good and prevent mischief, you realise that it is unlawful to overlook any common good or support any act of mischief in any situation, even if you have no specific evidence from the scripture, consensus, or analogy."

Or, as Imam Ibn al-Qayyim (d. 751/1351) (one of Ibn Taymiya’s students) of Syria put it, "The Islamic Law is all about wisdom and achieving peoples welfare in this life and the afterlife. It is all about justice, mercy, wisdom, and good. Thus, any ruling that replaces justice with injustice, mercy with its opposite, common good with mischief, or wisdom with nonsense, is a ruling that does not belong to the Islamic Law, even if it is claimed to be so according to some interpretation."


Source: http://www.thecitycircle.com/past-e...-spirit-of-islamic-law-the-maqasid-al-shariah

اسلامی سزاؤں کا مقصد جہاں جرائم کو روکنا اور معاشرے کو پاک رکھنا ہے
وہاں ان سزاؤں کو دوسروں کے لیے عبرت بھی ہیں تاکہ معاشرے میں قانون کا خوف قائم رہے

اسلام میں سزاؤں کا مقصد کبھی بھی انسان کو ازیت پہنچانا نہیں رہا

اس میں مقابلے میں غیر اسلامی حکومتوں میں سزایں وحشت انگیز اور ظالمانہ رہی ہیں
آج کے دور میں بلگرام ، قندھار ، ابو غریب اور گونتانامو میں کیا ہو رہا ہے وہ کسی کو نہیں معلوم
ان قیدخانوں کے متعلق جو کچھ بھی معلوم ہوا ہے اس سے نہ صرف انسان کے بلکہ جانوروں کے بھی رونگٹے کھڑے ہو جائیں

اسلامی سزاؤں کے پیچھے ایک نظریہ اور فلسفہ ہے معاشرے کو پاک صاف رکھنے کا اور انصاف قائم رکھنے کا
جب بھی اور جہاں بھی اسلامی سزائیں اپنی مکمل روح کے ساتھ نافذ ہویں ہیں وہاں امن قایم ہوا ہے
جرایم تقریباً ختم ہو گئے
یہی خوبصورتی ہے الله کے نظام کی
ہم نے بھی پاکستان اسی نظام کو رائج کرنے کے لیے حاصل کیا تھا
مگر آج ہم نے اس کی کیا شکل بنا دی ہے
اپنا اصل مقصد تو بھول گئے اور مغرب کی گند کو اپنے سر پر رکھ کر فخر محسوس کر رہے ہیں
​

 

[Faiza]

Please I request from all those who are comparing this incident with any incident happen in USAdont do same thing which our politician are doing daily in talk shows, even ever any body blame them, instead of give any explanation for their acts, they always start blaming other to hide their evilso if some thing is happing wrong in any part of the world dont justify it with any other dilemma

@ Brother Qaiser mirza, I am also in a complete favour of Islamic laws, but I dont know in which Islam there is a punishment for women with lashes in public, because she was wearing something under her covering... (Abaya or burka)

 

[Raaz]

Anyway this is not Islamic way to beat a woman on the roads.

اس میں مقابلے میں غیر اسلامی حکومتوں میں سزایں وحشت انگیز اور ظالمانہ رہی ہیں
آج کے دور میں بلگرام ، قندھار ، ابو غریب اور گونتانامو میں کیا ہو رہا ہے وہ کسی کو نہیں معلوم
ان قیدخانوں کے متعلق جو کچھ بھی معلوم ہوا ہے اس سے نہ صرف انسان کے بلکہ جانوروں کے بھی رونگٹے کھڑے ہو جائیں

All these r in the Islamic land.

We do not have the courage to stop them in our own countries.

We could talk only but could not work for it as we say.

 

[Doorandesh]

Our biggest probelm as Muslims is we try to justify our atrocities wrongly done in the name of Islam. Call spade a spade. We will bring what this country did to that and what someone else did to us etc. This is not what Islam is about ... copying other's bad deeds. Why dont we try to copy good deeds of West.... we will find plenty of good deeds there, for example honesty, discipline, respect, freedom, volunteerism, patience etc. to start with.

 

[Raaz]

Our biggest probelm as Muslims is we try to justify our atrocities wrongly done in the name of Islam. Call spade a spade. We will bring what this country did to that and what someone else did to us etc. This is not what Islam is about ... copying other's bad deeds. Why dont we try to copy good deeds of West.... we will find plenty of good deeds there, for example honesty, discipline, respect, freedom, volunteerism, patience etc. to start with.

That good to know that we want to copy some one. for our betterment.

We want to be friends of ourself, that means.

Then why not we copy our Prophet pbuh.

The right way is to copy him but donot think it is " Islamic", think it is good for me.

Thats what west had done and still doing.

They conclude the issue and act by using brain.

Calling anything Religious makes it disputed.

 

[faqira786]

I am keep telling Lets learn from Western. We can live better life same as they are living. I am living in western and live in middle east and Pakistan, I can compare and tell you with honesty and truth, Western people are living life better than anyone and whole world is learning from them. We as a muslim can learn a lot from them and enjoy our life as well. Western people are ncie, honest and speak truth and so many qualities and they are the better people than anyone in this EARTH.

The best example is to compare any muslim country with any western country. you will get an answer.

Lets be honest and tell the TRUTH.

 

[Faiza]

ہر چیز پر دکانداری ہو جاتی ہے میرا مال اچھا یا تیرا ​

ایک عورت پر ظالم ہو رہا ہے اس پر بھی لڑائی ہے کہ ، ہمارا ظالم تمارے ظلم سے بہتر ہے. کیا سڑکوں پر عورتوں کو کوڑے ما رنے سے اسلام نافذ ہوگا






I was not able to sleep after watching this clip, and what is more disturbing is how people defend one wrong act by justifying it with another wrong act.

 

[QaiserMirza]

We do not know what is the actual behind that, it is just a video clip made by someone from his phone.
The reasons behind the punishment must be known before we pass our judgement or criticism on the event.

Our explanation on implementation of Islamic Sharia has nothing to do with this clip.
It is surprising for any Muslim to criticize the enforcement of Islamic law.
One is either a Muslim or Not-a-Muslim, cant be half half.
Allah subhan wa taala said to enter into the religion completely.
We can not take portion of it as we dont like the remaining.

Our religion is complete way of life, nothing left, then why should we copy or imitate the west.
If there are any good habits or system prevail in west it is either taken from Islam or it may be fake.

Education and knowledge of religion is must on every Muslim, we will be accountable for it on the day of judgement.
We cant be excused that we were busy doing our master degree or PhD and didnt get time to learn the religion.

May Allah guide all of us.

 

[Faiza]

We do not know what is the actual behind that, it is just a video clip made by someone from his phone.
The reasons behind the punishment must be known before we pass our judgement or criticism on the event.

Our explanation on implementation of Islamic Sharia has nothing to do with this clip.
It is surprising for any Muslim to criticize the enforcement of Islamic law.
One is either a Muslim or Not-a-Muslim, cant be half half.
Allah subhan wa taala said to enter into the religion completely.
We can not take portion of it as we dont like the remaining.

Our religion is complete way of life, nothing left, then why should we copy or imitate the west.
If there are any good habits or system prevail in west it is either taken from Islam or it may be fake.

Education and knowledge of religion is must on every Muslim, we will be accountable for it on the day of judgement.
We cant be excused that we were busy doing our master degree or PhD and didnt get time to learn the religion.

May Allah guide all of us.

Brother I think you are confuse in this matter, I know it is just a video clip, And we dont know the reason behind this, so how come your first statement was giving a impression that it is happing according to Islam, how do you know, if this women is guilty or notabout your second statement of implementation of Islamic Sharia, it is just an assumption that who ever didnt like this incident, they want only portion of Islamas you said if we dont know the truth then you should not call it according to Islam, until its prove to you that this punishment was actually because of some immoral act. Wearing something under the burka or abaya can not be punishable in this way.


as you said (Our explanation on implementation of Islamic Sharia has nothing to do with this clip)

If it is nothing to do with this clip then I think what you are saying is in wrong place in wrong time

 

[Bret Hawk]

The real problem of the western satanic media is not with their so called posturing on this issue of a poor (lashed) lady of Sudan but to keep on pressing the current Sudanese regime to put an absolute halt on its cooperative policy towards the Chinese government so that no more oil and gas supplies can be made in near future between these two nations according to the pacts and agreements which they have made in recent years to fulfil their own economic and cooperative goals. Americans and the rest of its auxiliary slave followers in the Western-Europe in particular have also instigated and sponsored the internal centrifugal forces of Sudan (most prominently in Darfur region) in order to keep the Sudanese under more check and strain so that they can budge under their oppressive pressures to stop the supply of the much needed and vital energy sources to their (Americans) arch socialist rival in South East Asia in order to put reins on its rapidly expanding economic and military strides, which has deprived them from their much needed comfort and easiness in the last few decades.

I however strongly condemn the uncalled for and insensitive actions of these law enforcing authorities of Sudanese government as depicted in this clip and hope that some sanity and sense might prevail their after the much needed introspection and deliberations over their over-the-board conduct in their internal affairs. However I do also visualise to some extent that Americans backed by their poodles in Western Europe might once again encroach in to this region of North-East Africa under the pretext of these horrifying human right abuses and other supposed criminal activities (In a sarcastic sense of course) perpetrated by Sudan and Somalia (Not to forget the continuous struggle of Islamic guerrillas against the so called local & external liberal forces of this region and the pirating activities of its alleged citizens in the Gulf of Aden and Strait of Malacca) “so that the world can be saved from such grave evils of this modern era once again”, a somewhat familiar and distasteful tune which we are now unfortunately have become accustomed to hear again and again from these hypocritical states of Western hemisphere.