Bro Greeks are very recent history, even before that...I posted a map above...as well as I have read many times that Punjab was for sure part of Iran...the name tells it all punj+aab, the map I posted above shows the boundaries...but again..does it matter in today's context?
My point of view is Absolutely NOT....
What matters today is that we (every one from KPK to Baluchistan to Sind to Punjab and Kashmir) collectively lack the ability to come to an agreed upon position so that we can move on. And that is what effing us up.
See in a dynamic culture, even if once you make a wrong decision soon it will be determined that it was a wrong decision hence all will get together and undo it. We LACK THIS ABILITY TO AGREE UPON SINGLE point for the sake of moving forward. Therefore we still are stagnant culture and feel like running in a circle
My comment was in response to this ludicrous comment
"And persians coined it sind. it isn't even indigenous".
Also if one goes back to pre-islamic history of this region, Sanskrit and Avestan are sister languages and most words are similar. So what are considered as persian loan words actually share the same root with their sanskrit counterparts in many cases. for e.g. the word satrap is kshatrapa in sanskrit. Look at the similarities in the old persian xaapāvan and sanskrit kshatrapam.
The word "satrap" originates ultimately (via Ancient Greek and Latin) from Old Persianxaapāvan ("protector of the province"), Sanskritक्षत्रपम् (kshatrapam or kshtrapa), from xaa ("realm" or "province") and pāvan ("protector"). In Greek, the word was rendered as σατράπης, satrpēs (later borrowed into Latin as satrapes), from a Western Iranian cognate xaθrapā(van). In modern Persian the descendant of xaθrapāvan is شهربان (shahrbān), but the components have undergone semantic shift so the word now means "town keeper" (شهر "shahr", meaning "town", بان "bān" meaning "keeper").
You have made some differentiation between Pakistanis, biharis, and bengalis who i presume are all citizens of Pakistan? I don't want to get in to this ethnic wrangle going on here but its not necessary to go in to such old history to get some provinces made. We in India keep making new provinces and nobody is referring to 5000 year old history while doing that. This is a totally wrong approach to this issue in my opinion.
Sindh and Punjab are Sanskrit, Pashto and Baloch are Persian. Greek me be recent 2000 years ago but Iran was around 4,500 years ago and for a very small time, so it did not influence culture of the Indus river as much as it did in the Afghan and Baloch region. Punjab ruled over Baloch and Afghans for sometime in history as well but it was very brief. Baloch and Punjab rivalry is very old and the roots go thousands over years when Indus civilization was holding off invaders from the west. We have a separate history. We need to recognize that.
Btw Persian is not rooted from Sanskrit, it had a separate path but may have been influenced but it was different. Baloch are similar to Kurds.
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i have been constantly advocating that we need to correct our history, many people here come with fake history
so far i have argued that Karachi was never a part of Sindh, but it is constantly denied
Common bro....Aap sahih nahin keh rahey...punjab is farsi, it is a combination of punj(5) and Aab (water)....as far as Baluch and Pushto are Persian, u are gravely mistaken....anyways...its useless discussion..take care
Punjabi is not a Farsi language it is rooted from Sanskrit .....
Sorry to say this brother but you are either extremely dumb or you are acting like one...where in the heck did I say punjabi is farsi?
Aor kitni baar likhoon kay the name of province punjab is a compound of 2 farsi (persian) words punj (5) and aab(water) meaning 5 rivers...Thats the only thing I am trying to tell you that this was part of Ancient persia...nothing else...please rest it now.
Thanks
how is karachi a part of sindh, karachi is just a colony of sindh which has never been real part of sindh, go and learn history
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