A nuclear state bows before the clergy; accepts their dictation imperiling peoples' lives

Shareef

Minister (2k+ posts)
After a meeting with religious scholars which he called ‘Ijmaa’, the president of Pakistan announced in an upbeat tone that various issues regarding offering of prayers during Ramadan have been agreed upon. Spelling out the tit bits like washing hands and doing ablution at home and not shaking hands etc, which even a child knows by now, the crux of the decision announced was that the govt had succumbed to the desire and dictation of the clerics per se.

It is unfortunate that there is no body in the govt to boldly tell the clerics the difference between offering prayers and congregating at the mosque. Whereas offering prayers is obligatory for a muslim, gathering at the mosque is not. The stress of the clerics is always more on coming to the mosques in any case instead of saying prayers with Allah’s gifted concessions in different situations like the present one.

The state of Pakistan which boasts of being a powerful nuclear state, has time and again proved itself humble in front of the religious conglomeration, which may be at each other’s throats most of the time but when their grip over the masses is challenged they become one, and formidable.
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thinking

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Atom bomb is not for your own peoples either they are corrupt or criminals..From Zia to Nawaz.. Zardari tenors..We breeded current Firqa Parast Molvis along with Thiers un educated and educated followers army...It's not easy to eleminares them soon..It's needs generations to eleminares them..
 

Ahmad2015

Senator (1k+ posts)
After a meeting with religious scholars which he called ‘Ijmaa’, the president of Pakistan announced in an upbeat tone that various issues regarding offering of prayers during Ramadan have been agreed upon. Spelling out the tit bits like washing hands and doing ablution at home and not shaking hands etc, which even a child knows by now, the crux of the decision announced was that the govt had succumbed to the desire and dictation of the clerics per se.

It is unfortunate that there is no body in the govt to boldly tell the clerics the difference between offering prayers and congregating at the mosque. Whereas offering prayers is obligatory for a muslim, gathering at the mosque is not. The stress of the clerics is always more on coming to the mosques in any case instead of saying prayers with Allah’s gifted concessions in different situations like the present one.

The state of Pakistan which boasts of being a powerful nuclear state, has time and again proved itself humble in front of the religious conglomeration, which may be at each other’s throats most of the time but when their grip over the masses is challenged they become one, and formidable.
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you need some DETTOL.
 

Senorita

Senator (1k+ posts)
President has no authority on religious issues and this President is only expert in one thing i,e cleaning fake root canals to make huge money
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
What does being a nuclear state have to do with this?

This was a silly move. Stupid on part of the clerics, who are trying to portray themselves as more Islamic than other countries. ....and weak on part of the govt.
I can't understand how people will stand 6 feet apart and still call it qayam.
 

Shareef

Minister (2k+ posts)
What does being a nuclear state have to do with this?

This was a silly move. Stupid on part of the clerics, who are trying to portray themselves as more Islamic than other countries. ....and weak on part of the govt.
I can't understand how people will stand 6 feet apart and still call it qayam.
The mention of being head of a nuclear state was made because the clerics were acting proverbially 'holier than the pope' and the president acting 'humbler than the tumbler'.
 

Salazar67

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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After a meeting with religious scholars which he called ‘Ijmaa’, the president of Pakistan announced in an upbeat tone that various issues regarding offering of prayers during Ramadan have been agreed upon. Spelling out the tit bits like washing hands and doing ablution at home and not shaking hands etc, which even a child knows by now, the crux of the decision announced was that the govt had succumbed to the desire and dictation of the clerics per se.

It is unfortunate that there is no body in the govt to boldly tell the clerics the difference between offering prayers and congregating at the mosque. Whereas offering prayers is obligatory for a muslim, gathering at the mosque is not. The stress of the clerics is always more on coming to the mosques in any case instead of saying prayers with Allah’s gifted concessions in different situations like the present one.

The state of Pakistan which boasts of being a powerful nuclear state, has time and again proved itself humble in front of the religious conglomeration, which may be at each other’s throats most of the time but when their grip over the masses is challenged they become one, and formidable.
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Naapaak Shareef napaak comment by a PIMP of harami Ghushtee Mrs Safdar k uncle..

JAHIL. Sala nuclear da mama. CHUP.
 

farooqak

Minister (2k+ posts)
whenever the literacy rate increases in country, these topi drama mullahs will have less significance. I always see 4 to 5 lallu chumchas following their local mullah around. Mullah are like politician now and they use mosque as a base camp
we need more people like Israr Ahmed in society if any progress can be made on intellectual end for this nation
 

Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Absolutely stupid idea and a very shameful move that the govt succeeded to the pressure of these mullahs who are only thinking about their chandaas

Unfortunately rest of Pakistan will pay heavily for this stupidity of the govt and greed of the mullahs
 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
There should have been a clause in the agreement with mullahs that if anyone congregating in places of worship gets corona virus, he will not be given any medical help or admission in the hospital at public expense.

And the treatment should either be on his personal expense or at the expense of those Thekedaars of Islam who are against lock down in such a pandemic.
 

A.jokhio

Minister (2k+ posts)
After a meeting with religious scholars which he called ‘Ijmaa’, the president of Pakistan announced in an upbeat tone that various issues regarding offering of prayers during Ramadan have been agreed upon. Spelling out the tit bits like washing hands and doing ablution at home and not shaking hands etc, which even a child knows by now, the crux of the decision announced was that the govt had succumbed to the desire and dictation of the clerics per se.

It is unfortunate that there is no body in the govt to boldly tell the clerics the difference between offering prayers and congregating at the mosque. Whereas offering prayers is obligatory for a muslim, gathering at the mosque is not. The stress of the clerics is always more on coming to the mosques in any case instead of saying prayers with Allah’s gifted concessions in different situations like the present one.

The state of Pakistan which boasts of being a powerful nuclear state, has time and again proved itself humble in front of the religious conglomeration, which may be at each other’s throats most of the time but when their grip over the masses is challenged they become one, and formidable.
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What rubbish...we bow before Allah only and rightly so...state has formalized policy for prayers with consultation of clergy and rightfully so.....why is it giving death to you...article seems like someone totally irrelevant with Pakistani nations emotions, govt policies and precautions for safety and ground reality...if people can do shopping observing social distancing (of which you certainly had no objection) why cant they offer prayers, if they desires so...its not any clergy its people of Pakistan who demanded govt to lift restriction over prayers...bcz this unacceptable to us Pakistanis...security and protection measures/SoP must obviously be followed in any activity....biased and baseless article..
 

Oldwish

Senator (1k+ posts)
After a meeting with religious scholars which he called ‘Ijmaa’, the president of Pakistan announced in an upbeat tone that various issues regarding offering of prayers during Ramadan have been agreed upon. Spelling out the tit bits like washing hands and doing ablution at home and not shaking hands etc, which even a child knows by now, the crux of the decision announced was that the govt had succumbed to the desire and dictation of the clerics per se.

It is unfortunate that there is no body in the govt to boldly tell the clerics the difference between offering prayers and congregating at the mosque. Whereas offering prayers is obligatory for a muslim, gathering at the mosque is not. The stress of the clerics is always more on coming to the mosques in any case instead of saying prayers with Allah’s gifted concessions in different situations like the present one.

The state of Pakistan which boasts of being a powerful nuclear state, has time and again proved itself humble in front of the religious conglomeration, which may be at each other’s throats most of the time but when their grip over the masses is challenged they become one, and formidable.
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Too bad, not every one ready to be unconditional slave ?
 

Oldwish

Senator (1k+ posts)
What does being a nuclear state have to do with this?

This was a silly move. Stupid on part of the clerics, who are trying to portray themselves as more Islamic than other countries. ....and weak on part of the govt.
I can't understand how people will stand 6 feet apart and still call it qayam.
So the entire planet should obey you? Sorry to inform you, some of your dreams will never come true.
 

Will_Bite

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
So the entire planet should obey you? Sorry to inform you, some of your dreams will never come true.
Whatever does that mean? Public should obey state rules. So should mosques. Considering the state of affairs of our imams, they are the last people we should be following
 

Oldwish

Senator (1k+ posts)
Whatever does that mean? Public should obey state rules. So should mosques. Considering the state of affairs of our imams, they are the last people we should be following
This is exactly what I said. There is no state without public.
And its non of your damn business who I follow.
 

peluramramani

Councller (250+ posts)
After a meeting with religious scholars which he called ‘Ijmaa’, the president of Pakistan announced in an upbeat tone that various issues regarding offering of prayers during Ramadan have been agreed upon. Spelling out the tit bits like washing hands and doing ablution at home and not shaking hands etc, which even a child knows by now, the crux of the decision announced was that the govt had succumbed to the desire and dictation of the clerics per se.

It is unfortunate that there is no body in the govt to boldly tell the clerics the difference between offering prayers and congregating at the mosque. Whereas offering prayers is obligatory for a muslim, gathering at the mosque is not. The stress of the clerics is always more on coming to the mosques in any case instead of saying prayers with Allah’s gifted concessions in different situations like the present one.

The state of Pakistan which boasts of being a powerful nuclear state, has time and again proved itself humble in front of the religious conglomeration, which may be at each other’s throats most of the time but when their grip over the masses is challenged they become one, and formidable.
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very sad .