A Little about his wife: Aishah Bint Abi Bakr !!!

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Pakistani1947

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Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) were human

Tell me who you think Prophet Mohammad pbuh was: bashar or what?

Our Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) is the leader of all the sons of Adam, and he is a human being, one of the sons of Adam. He was born from two parents, he ate food and married woman, he got hungry and fell sick, and he felt joy and sorrow. One of the clearest signs of his humanity is that Allaah caused him to die as He causes all souls to die, but what distinguishes the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) from others is Prophethood and Revelation.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): [al-Kahf 18:110]
قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَىٰ إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَـٰهُكُمْ إِلَـٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۖ فَمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو لِقَاءَ رَبِّهِ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِ أَحَدًا (al-Kahf 18:110)
Yusuf Ali 110: Say: "I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah. whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner.
کہہ دو کہ میں بھی تمہارے جیسا آدمی ہی ہوں میری طرف وحی کی جاتی ہے کہ تمہارا معبود ایک ہی معبود ہے پھر جو کوئی اپنے رب سے ملنے کی امید رکھے تو اسے چاہیئے کہ اچھے کام کرے اور اپنے رب کی عبادت میں کسی کو شریک نہ بنائے

The state of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) in his humanity is the same as that of all the Prophets and Messengers. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): [al-Anbiya’ 21:8]

وَمَا جَعَلْنَاهُمْ جَسَدًا لَّا يَأْكُلُونَ الطَّعَامَ وَمَا كَانُوا خَالِدِينَ (al-Anbiya’ 21:8)
Yusuf Ali 8: Nor did We give them bodies that ate no food, nor were they exempt from death.
او رہم نے ان کے ایسے بدن بھی نہیں بنائے تھے کہ وہ کھانا نہ کھائیں اور نہ وہ ہمیشہ رہنے والے تھے

Allaah condemned those who wondered at the humanity of the Messenger (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم), as He says (interpretation of the meaning): [al-Furqaan 25:8]
أَوْ يُلْقَىٰ إِلَيْهِ كَنزٌ أَوْ تَكُونُ لَهُ جَنَّةٌ يَأْكُلُ مِنْهَا ۚ وَقَالَ الظَّالِمُونَ إِن تَتَّبِعُونَ إِلَّا رَجُلًا مَّسْحُورًا (al-Furqaan 25:8)
Yusuf Ali 8: "Or (Why) has not a treasure been bestowed on him, or why has he (not) a garden for enjoyment?" The wicked say: "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched."
یا اس کے پاس کوئی خزانہ آجاتا یا اس کے لیے باغ ہوتا جس میں سےکھاتا اور بے انصافوں نے کہا کہ تم تو بس ایک ایسے شخص کے تابع ہوگئے جس پر جادو کیا گیا ہے

It is not permissible to overstep the mark with regard to what the Qur’aan states about the message and humanity of the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم). For example, it is not permissible to describe him (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) as being noor (light) or as casting no shadow, or to say that he was created from light. Rather this is a kind of exaggeration which the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) forbade when he said:
Narrated 'Umar: I heard the Prophet saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle." (Sahih Bukhari, Book #55, Hadith #654)

Moreover it is proven that the angels are the ones who were created from light, not any of the sons of Adam. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
'A'isha reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The angels were born out of light and the Jinns were born out of the spark of fire and Adam was born as he has been defined (in the Qur'an) for you (i. e. he is fashioned out of clay). (Sahih Muslim,Book #042, Hadith #7134)
 

Faiza

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Re: Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) were human

ایسا علم جو زبان مے تلخی اور طبیعت مے غرور بھر دے اس سے لا علمی بہتر ہے.... علم الله تعالیٰ کی نعمت ہے اس کا شکر ادا کرنا چاہیے نہ کے اس کو کسی کی تذلیل کا ذریع بنا کر اپنے آپ کو دوسروں سے بہتر ثابت کرنے کے لئے استعمال کیا جائے .
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Assalam-o-alaikum
I think there is another intentional or unintentional efforts to make this forum purely entertainment & siasi.
The way babadeena & baba jee arguing i think many will vote for banning religious topics..
I dont think it is right way to behave in public forums..
Astahgfirullah.
 

sahiL

Senator (1k+ posts)
Say (O Muhammad PBUH): I am only a man like you, It has been revealed to me that your Ilah(Allah) is one-----[al-Kahf] 18:110
 

sahiL

Senator (1k+ posts)
And We did not create them (the Messengers) with bodies that ate not food, nor were they immortals----[al-Anbiya 21:8]
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
The thread which is exclusively started by Canadian to describe about little bit of life of Aisha(rzt) has been
hijacked by Molson4u and Babajee--the diehard Shias. In a very strategic way, Molson4u made his
post No.10 and then Babajee in his post No.11, altogether wished to divert the thread towards promoting
their reservations about the lady and also projecting their product(Shiaism).
As is evident from the
second page, I made my post No.7, before these fanatic Shias, to preempt the incoming Shia's strategy.
But they in a sugar coated post No.11 wished to promote the following concept by
resorting to the help of Aisha and Abubakar (rzt):
a) LOOKING AT THE FACE OF ALI IS EBAADAT:
b) ZIKAR-e-ALI IS EBAADAAT;
c) LOVE OF ALI IS EBAADAAT;

When I cornered their doctrine and questioned him that if:
"ALI WAS A NORMAL HUMAN BEING (BASHAR) OR WHATELSE......" , Babajee became
utter desperate because he was not expecting this from someone, resorted to:
a) Abusive language (His post No.24's first word);
b) take the shelter of our Prophet(PBUH) by asking if he was bashar or not;

I could have easily quoted for him Quranic verses relevant to his question,
other participants (Pakistani1947, Sahil) did, but I refrained intentionally in order to
keep them on track of the question about Ali(rzt) to whom they are equating as
(Naoozbilla) ---and that also with the help of attributing and associating the words
to Aisha and Abu Bakar--- God, because love of Ali, seeing his face and his
Zaker is Ebaadaat for them. Look at the extreme degree of Baba jee Post
No.11, in the end He allegedly claim that "Prophet(PBUH) said that Hub-e-Ali
is also Ebaadat.
Soon after this Prophet Mohammad pbuh smiled and said May I pbuh tell you
something more? Prophet Mohammad pbuh said that "Hub-e-Ali is also Ibaadah".
Their strategy is/was to involve Aisha and Abu Bakar in their so-called Hadiths,
that If the opponents of their faith will question them, they will say that these words of
of these two personalities as Molson4u said.
Inshallah these type of things will be countered, only ZIKAR-e-ILLAHI IS EBAADAT, Rest
all is Shia's self-fabrications by their Zaikirs and Qaseeda reciters. Nothing else.
 
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molson4u

Senator (1k+ posts)
The thread which is exclusively started by Canadian to describe about little bit of life of Aisha(rzt) has been
hijacked by Molson4u and Babajee--the diehard Shias. In a very strategic way, Molson4u made his
post No.10 and then Babajee in his post No.11, altogether wished to divert the thread towards promoting
their reservations about the lady and also projecting their product(Shiaism). As is evident from the
second page, I made my post No.7, before these fanatic Shias, to preempt the incoming Shia's strategy.
But they in a sugar coated post No.11 wished to promote the following concept by
resorting to the help of Aisha and Abubakar (rzt):
a) LOOKING AT THE FACE OF ALI IS EBAADAT:
b) ZIKAR-e-ALI IS EBAADAAT;
c) LOVE OF ALI IS EBAADAAT;
When I cornered their doctrine and questioned him that if:
"ALI WAS A NORMAL HUMAN BEING (BASHAR) OR WHATELSE......" , Babajee became
utter desperate because he was not expecting this from someone, resorted to:
a) Abusive language (His post No.24's first word);
b) take the shelter of our Prophet(PBUH) by asking if he was bashar or not;
I could have easily quoted for him Quranic verses relevant to his question,
other participants (Pakistani1947, Sahil) did, but I refrained intentionally in order to
keep them on track of the question about Ali(rzt) to whom they are equating as
(Naoozbilla) ---and that also with the help of attributing and associating the words
to Aisha and Abu Bakar--- God, because love of Ali, seeing his face and his
Zaker is Ebaadaat for them. Look at the extreme degree of Baba jee Post
No.11, in the end He allegedly claim that "Prophet(PBUH) said that Hub-e-Ali
is also Ebaadat.
Their strategy is/was to involve Aisha and Abu Bakar in their so-called Hadiths,
that If the opponents of their faith will question them, they will say that these words of
of these two personalities as Molson4u said.
Inshallah these type of things will be countered, only ZIKAR-e-ILLAHI IS EBAADAT, Rest
all is Shia's self-fabrications by their Zaikirs and Qaseeda reciters. Nothing else.

Babadeena....Let me start dealing with you by saying. Lan..t ullah ilal Kazibeen ul Munafiqeen ???? ???? ??? ??????? ?????????

Brother and sister in Islam...Few days back pakistani1947 who wrote in his post that Molson4u has insulted Sahaba. I challanged him to produced a single most to prove that and I will appologize to him and entire Ummah, if not he will apologize to me....Since then he never replied.

Now come Babadeena again lying that I hijacked the thread. I am a die hard shia etc. I invite you to read my response in Post 10. I am an edcuated man and like to present my veiws on different issue. Siasaat or Religion.

Please do read my post 10 and you will find that what I am saying is that some of the unedcuated mulla's make up stories that are disgrace and dishonor to Sahaba akram and Ummal momineen.

The thread stated that Hazarat Ayshia was jealous type women and she called Hazarat Katija( old Qurashin women) and so on so forth which all is the Insult of Ummul Momineen Hazarat Ayshia.

I proclaim myself to be a educated muslim and respect everyone as a muslim but there 2 muslim brothers(babedeena and Pakistani1947) keep bringing sect issue. The purpose is to divide the muslim brothers and sisters on this fourm. They have passed comments such as shias are cult, they are people worshippers, they must be kicked out and shia's are snakes in the sleeves which were deleted on my request by the moderators.

I don't want to disrespect them. We all know what they are, which sect they belong to and how they are dividing shia and sunni while sponsoring terrorism around the world "with their own version of Islam" and giving bad name to Muslims all over. They bring the same hatred on this forum. Simple Ignore them as they are ignorant.

We are all here for educated conversation. As a Muslim, I like to permote hormony and present critical analysis of things with evidence and use my right to express my thoughts.

I would like to thanks many of you how like my posts and send me private massages thanking me for sharing my views.

Now going back to the issue raised by Brother Babadeena about Hazarat Ali(KAW) To look at Ali's face is abadaaat, to just look at Ali is Adadaat and to talk about Ali is Abadaat.

Please watch this video and its not Shia or Sunni Alam by a Educated Allam who has millions of muslim follows around the world spreading the truth. Hadith is narrated by Hazarat Abu Baqar Sadique(RA) to Hazarat Ayshia sadiqua...both are sadique but Babadeen finds them dishonest by denying the Hadith because their hatred for you beloved Prophet and his Family which we all muslim believe to part of our Iman.

Please watch:

 
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Newt0n

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@Babadeena ---- Bro, the ahadith tht Molson quoted are not made up by shias, they are famous among sunnis too... unless until u prove it to b weak i dont think u shud say tht they r made up stories....

if u dont understand it or u think its against Quran then u shud ask for explaination... simply rejecting what U THINK is not ryt is not the ryt way either... this doesnt makes u in anyway better then those u say hijacked the thread...


@Everyone ---- and i think once again the thread has been completely diverted from its original course.... what is Maula ALI(as) doing in Bibi Aisha's thread...
 
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babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
@Molson4u,

If the purpose of your post No.10 was to defend Aisha(rzt) as you are now claiming, then it was
very poor effort. The reader finds it very difficult to differentiate what you are quoting from others
or what you are saying it from yourself.

If you are not a die-hard shia, then say that I am not a shia or shia ideology promoter.
Your posts depict otherwise.

Let the curse of Allah be on all those who make, identify, promote, project the sects,
whatsoever and whosoever they may be without any exception. Can you say it as I am
saying?

Let the Tahirul Qadris of all this Universe, and plus all those who were nodding before him,
should say whatever they say, I will stick to Quran which says that "Zika-e-Illahi is Ebaadat"
rest is all what these Qadri plus company limited has invented. Ali(rzt) was a slave of
Allah, a Bashar, mortal, and that is all.
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
@Babadeena ---- Bro, the ahadith tht Molson quoted are not made up by shias, they are famous among sunnis too... unless until u prove it to b weak i dont think u shud say tht they r made up stories...
.

Brother those Hadiths go against the Quranic teachings. How looking at the face of a Bashar is Ebaadat,
How Zikar of a Bashar like Ali is Ebaadat, how Hub-e-Ali is Ebaadat. These ignorant do not even know
the meaning of "Ebaadaat". If any thing goes against Quran, is not accepted by me at least.
 

molson4u

Senator (1k+ posts)
Brother Babadeena, please don't spread your ingorence here. I asked you an edcuated question. Show me 5 salats from Quran, show me the process of wadoo in Quran, show me Tarvee in Quran, show me Azan in the ears of a baby in Quran and I have list of 100's of things. Quran alone is just a blue print which gives titles not explainations. That is the reason we look in the Hadith. Now I don't want quote Quran for you because you are a Salfi, wahabi who says Hussain murdabad and Yazid (RA) so we all know you invention of new islam by Mr. Wahab. To me Wahabi and Qadiani are the same. They are brother and sister of each other. However Sunni and Shia are brothers of each other.

Quran says do Atayat of Allah and His Rasool and Atayat of People of jurisprudence. In listen to Quran, we do follow Allah through Quran, Rasool through Hadith and Ahylabaat through thier teachings. Allah never says to just follow Quran alone. Its the only Rawaat of Hazarat Umer(RA) who said Quran is enough for us and Mr. Wahab said the same thing that Quran is enough for us and therefore you are lost today.

Anyone who says that I don't want to follow Prophet and his Hadith and say Allah is the only entity for Atayat is Shataan. Remember Shattan also said the same thing that you say and I bow down to only Allah and pray to him and Allah kicked him out forever. If Allah Say bow down to Adam, you should otherwise you are a Shattan. If Allah says I and my Angles send darood on Muhammad and you don't, you are shattan and If allah says I have purified ahlaybaat and you don't agree you are shattan and if Allah says, Love the kinship of muhammad and you don't do you are Shattan and If Allah says in Quran to Listen to my Prophet and follow him and you deny his most ethentic hadith, you are shattan.... Just think.

Everything i have said here I can quote to you from Quran. And by the way, Please tell me which Islamic University gave you the degree in Quran that you consider yourslef to be Ayatullah? Brother check yourself and don't follow Shattan but Allah, His Sunnah and Ahlaybaat and we all Muslims agree and believe in that accept those who are lost.
 
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nasir ahmed

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Status of SAHABA (RA) and the wives of the prophet (saw) in light of Quran

Since some shia guy made a thread disrespecting our Mother Aisha (RA) and the Sahaba in more general I thought the Quran not fake made up shia hadith should be quoted. The Sahaba our guaranteed Jannah and Allah (swt) favour in the Quran. The wives of the prophet (SAW) are the mothers of the believers and the best amongst women of the time and eternity.


I have stated this many times the Sahaba have been favoured by Allah (swt) and there Abode is in Jannah has stated in the Quran here are the Ayats:

Surah Taubah (9) verse 100 guarantees Sahaba RA jannat and Allah(swt) says that Allah(swt) being pleased with them is a greater achievement then attaining jannah. They have achieved |Allahs (swt) favour.

Surah Hadid (57) verse 10 Allah (swt) promise of goodness and exalting their ranks.

Surah Fatah (48) verse 29 The famous surah very there perfect iman the character the love of rasool (saw) has for them and importantly those who hate them have been labelled has kaffir.

The praise of the wives of the Prophet (SAW):

Surah Al-Ahzab (33) verse 6: The wives of the prophet are the mothers of the believers (note the criteria of the Quran it only addresses the believers and those who disrespect the wives like the filth of the shia are out of the fold of the faith).

Also Surah Noor is very important because the munafiq of the Prophets (saw) time made slanderous accusation against Aisha (ra) just like the munafiq of our time try to malign the character of this noble pious perfect mother of the believers.

But Allah (swt) responded to the munafiq and the kuffar:

Surah An Noor (24) verse 11: Allah (swt) says surely they have concocted a lie and they shall be a grievous chastisement which awaits them i.e. hell.

Allah has revealed a Surah in honour of Aisha (ra) to tell the munafiq of her perfection in faith and her noble character.

The Quran is the benchmark test for Muslims not history books or Hadith all can be manipulated can be false. But Quran is protected by Allah (swt) hence it should by relied upon.

The Sahaba were great people blessed loved by Allah (swt) similarly the wives of the Prophet (saw) are blessed loved by Allah they have been given the notice of heaven in there own lifetime this can be found in the nass of the Quran you cant debate this if you do you will be a disbeliever.

Also I know Tahir ul qadri was mentioned he recently in 2010 did an entire lecture series about the filth of the shia and how they lie and make up Hadith with no isnad and say it is a sunni Hadith. I urge the Sunni to watch this series the link is has follows:

go to the speech in Canada listed has 2010.keeps going till the end.

http://www.deenislam.com/islam/SubCat/Ga/Khulfa-e-Rashidin-wa-Sahaba-Karam.html
 
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