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KhanHaripur

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
French TV reporting cartoonist Cabu behind original Prophet cartoons is among dead in #CharlieHebdo attack #Paris
 

KhanHaripur

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

French TV reporting cartoonist Cabu behind original Prophet cartoons is among dead in #CharlieHebdo attack #Paris
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
SEPTEMBER 28, 2012

The Charlie Hebdo Affair: Laughing at Blasphemy

BY EMILY GREENHOUSE


A week ago today, France shuttered its embassies, consulates, cultural centers, and schools in twenty countries. The reason given was that a satirical newsweekly called Charlie Hebdo had published cartoons satirizing two very different films: “The Intouchables,” just selected as France’s Academy Awards entry in the foreign-language film category; and “Innocence of Muslims,” a film less foreign to those who follow the news than it has any right to be.



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The cover of the Charlie Hebdo issue in question is a crude depiction of an Orthodox Jewish man pushing a Muslim man in a wheelchair: “The Intouchables 2,” it reads. (The actual “Intouchables” is a cloying tale of a rich white man who, paralyzed in a paragliding accident, hires a poor black man to care for him. Guess who gets his joie de vivre back?) When you turn the pages, you see ungainly caricatures, presented more or less as advertisements for a film—only tenuously connected with the front cover’s spoof—sure to “set the Muslim world ablaze.” Muhammad, labelled as such, is shown naked and bending over, begging to be admired. Then the Prophet is crouched on all fours, with genitals bared. “A Star is Born!” the caption reads—a reference to the attention given “Innocence of Muslims,” a trifle of murky and unpleasant provenance, that has been invoked in attacks leading to the death of almost fifty people to date, including J. Christopher Stevens, America’s Ambassador to Libya.


(Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, the fifty-five-year-old Californian man believed to be the video’s creator, is in jail after an arrest yesterday for violating eight terms of his probation in a 2010 bank-fraud case. The charges include using aliases; if he is in fact the filmmaker, he would have violated terms from another case that restricted his use of the Internet.)


When word got out a week ago Monday that the paper was printing a representation of Muhammad—an act that many Muslims consider blasphemous—Paris police called the editor (and cover cartoonist), Stphane Charbonnier, just as the issue was closing. Charb, as he is known, sent the prefecture the front and back covers, and the police urged him to think again. He declined—satire is, after all, his bread and butter—and the issue hit newsstands a week ago Wednesday.


Immediately, the French government increased security and announced its decision to close the twenty foreign outposts last Friday, which was a Muslim day of prayer. French Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault issued a statement criticizing the cartoons and any such “excess.” Politicians and editorial pages in much of France attacked the drawings as irresponsible, inopportune, and imbecilic. Why now, they asked, and why at all? The right-leaning newspaper Le Figaro rebuked the weekly for publishing “silly provocations” that fall into the trap of the Islamists, while the Roman Catholic La Croix asserted that “editorial responsibility requires an assessment of the consequences of what one publishes” and that “fuelling the flames to show one’s noble resistance to extremism leads to offending simple believers.” Laurent Fabius, France’s Foreign Minister, said on public radio, “In the present context, given this absurd video that has been aired, strong emotions have been awakened in many Muslim countries.” He asked, rhetorically, “Is it really sensible or intelligent to pour oil on the fire?”


Charbonnier, Charlie Hebdo’s editor, sounds exactly sensible and intelligent when he says that the cartoons will only “shock those who will want to be shocked.” He also told Le Monde, “I don’t feel as though I’m killing someone with a pen. I’m not putting lives at risk. When activists need a pretext to justify their violence, they always find it.”


This is not the first time Charlie Hebdo has met—or sparked—controversy. Last fall, the paper printed an issue “guest-edited by Muhammad”—“Charia Hebdo”—the cover of which promised “100 lashes if you don’t die of laughter!” Charb found his offices firebombed and his Web site hacked in response. (The site read: “You keep abusing Islam’s almighty Prophet with disgusting and disgraceful cartoons using excuses of freedom of speech. Be God’s curse upon you!”) The weekly pushed back by declaring “love stronger than hate,” with a slobbery cover cartoon of a Muslim man kissing a pasty-white male cartoonist.


The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has condemned Charb’s latest cartoons as blasphemous. But blasphemy may well be the point: Charlie Hebdo clearly thinks so. With its offices under police protection, Charb said that mocking Islam must continue “until Islam is just as banal as Catholicism.” The taboo—the blasphemy, the untouchable—is the very reason. Le Monde reminded its readers that religions “can be freely analyzed, criticized, even ridiculed.” This, after all, has been the case “since Voltaire.” The left-leaning French daily Libration went so far as to call blasphemy a sacred right. In a democracy, it said, “every publication is free to establish its editorial line; every reader is free to read or not read; free is every offended person to seek reparation before the courts, the only legal arm. And let’s hope that, in other regimes, arms of a different nature are not used.” Banning anything that anyone calls blasphemous—especially when it is a matter of vocal chords or ink—is a kind of violence itself.




“The aim is to laugh,” Laurent Lger, a journalist at Charlie Hebdo, told CNN. “We want to laugh at the extremists—every extremist. They can be Muslim, Jewish, Catholic. Everyone can be religious, but extremist thoughts and acts we cannot accept.”


Perhaps France’s precautions abroad were tactically wise: the Friday that it closed its embassies, at least nineteen people died in violence in Pakistan, related to government-sanctioned protests against the American anti-Islam video. The next day, a Pakistani cabinet minister offered a hundred thousand dollars for the death of the video’s creator. But there was also a chilling effect in the streets of France, where the Prime Minister banned the protests against the American-made “Innocence of Muslims” that had been scheduled for Saturday, demanding that “les flics” crack down if need be. Interior Minister Manuel Valls confirmed this directive to Reuters, and added, in an even harder line, “Neither will I allow street prayers, which have no place in this republic. And naturally the law will apply to anyone who wears the full face veil.”


But fiery cartoons may be better answered with fiery cartoons, like those in Al-Watan, a secular Egyptian newspaper, which Monday printed cartoons that ring in their own way of the #Muslimrage meme. One depicts a pair of glasses, each lens showing one of the Twin Towers engulfed in smoke. The caption reads, “Western glasses for the Islamic world.” On Wednesday, the Spanish satirical magazine El Jueves published on its cover a controversial cartoon of its own: a police lineup of Muslim men, under a caption “But … does anyone know what Muhammad looks like?”


The New Yorker’s cartoon editor, Robert Mankoff, wrote this week that the only “culturally, ethnically, religiously, and politically correct cartoon” is an empty one (his illustration of such an uncompromised cartoon was an empty white box). Mankoff might agree with the Charlie Hebdo currently on newsstands, with its big red (self-imposed) banner across the cover reading “Irresponsible newspaper.” The cover depicts “The Invention of Humor”: an oafish caveman adding oil to fire.


As Salman Rushdie recently told the New York Times’s Charles McGrath, on the release of his memoir, “Joseph Anton”—which describes the ten years he lived in hiding in response to an Iranian fatwa over his novel “The Satanic Verses”—the debate over blasphemy is not purely static. McGrath asked Rushdie whether he thinks what happened to him changed anything.


Rushdie replied, “Some of the British Muslims now say, ‘We think we were wrong.’ Some of them for tactical reasons, but others are actually using the free-speech argument: ‘If we want to say what we want, he has to be allowed to say what he wants.’ So I think some little bit of learning has happened.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-charlie-hebdo-affair-laughing-at-blasphemy/
 
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Zionist Hindu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

Charlie Hebdo is known for its extreme no-holds-barred satire on politics and religion. It represents the far-left of France and has taken a lot of pot shots on Jihadis and ISIS in recent times, facing many threats.

France itself has been tense due to bad economy, ethno-religious tensions (esp immigrants from North Africa), rise for racist far-right groups, French military role in Libya Mali and Syria....

and it all boils over into this tragedy.
If you don't want your religion to be offended, why not stay in your own islamic country. They throw their children from the boat in the middle of the sea to get into civilised countries. Then they live like parasites and commit crime. This is so unfair. This comment doesn't apply to secular hardworking muslims wo believe in freedom of expression.
 
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kayawish

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

1.Gujrat riot was in response to 1000 muslim petrol bombing a train killing 100 hindu pilgrim. If muslims had not burnt the people, there would have been no riots..

Read the entire report http://www.home.gujarat.gov.in/homed...raincident.pdf Problem lie with Islam and muslims can never live in peace with anyone.

2. Assam was an ethnic war between native Bodo Indians(Tribals)and Illegal bangladeshi who have settled there illegally.

Will Pakistani musilims allow Hindus from India to settle in punjab and take over those lands??

no , Pakistan will niot allow because Pakistan is Islamic republic ,is india Hindu Republic ? I guess so :)
 

realitycheck

Senator (1k+ posts)
Soon we will see ( God forbids ) Muslim blood flowing on the streets of Europe ... There is some thing very strange going on ..... European are going to rise and kill Muslims...

The amount of anger in Europe is beyond imagination ...... If you have love once in Europe then ... its time to advise them to move from there ...
 
Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

Killing mercilessly and rioting in revenge are two different topics...

IF 1000 mob of muslims had not burnt the train, there would have been no riots.

Imagine 1000 mob of hindus doing the same and I reckon that there would be no hindus left if they dared attacking muslims

What are you raving about?


While there is no proof of a mob of 1000 strong Muslims,there are undeniable visual proofs and on record statements of Indian officials(backing hardline Hindu extremists) on false flags of Mumbai drama, SamjhotaExpress attack and Maligawn incidents.


So, shut this propaganda out of that diarrheic shite hole you call your mouth and get your facts straight before barking here.
 
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Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

There are no secular muslims.

This the problem with western world. Even the most secular liberal muslims dont believe in freedom of expression.

The only way to fight these radicals is to ban quran and Islam in non musilm country.

Carry out mass deportation of all the muslims to their countries where they came from. Otherwise western world can ban religious freedom of muslim.

Talking about freedom of expression? Huh!


Stop with your dual standards. Tell me one place in westwhere anybody could even raise an eyebrow on “Holocaust”.

As for Muslims and seculars, yes they are two differentthings and if throwing people out of where they live is the solution then we shouldstart from you people, “Land Grabbers with piggish thought process”.
 

Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

How many people were killed by hindus?? Protesting peacefully and killing in cold blood appear same for you

No reason, you people have proved to world that Islam is religion of peace:)


Gujrat is on mars and what ever happened was done by aliens living there right???
 

khalid100

Minister (2k+ posts)
What a shameful act by the terrorists.
Thats called Freedom of expression meets freedom of action.
One extremist kills another extremist and people start debating the religion.

I wish all Muslims come out and protest against this brutal act of the terrorists as they protested against brutal act of publishing cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
 

Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

If you dont believe in any news source then you should subscrive to Zahid hamid feeds & continue to blame non muslims for every problem of the world including those hate intolerant verses in quran that turn muslim into zombies.


There isnt any thing like that.
 

Fatema

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
SEPTEMBER 28, 2012

The Charlie Hebdo Affair: Laughing at Blasphemy

BY EMILY GREENHOUSE


A week ago today, France shuttered its embassies, consulates, cultural centers, and schools in twenty countries. The reason given was that a satirical newsweekly called Charlie Hebdo had published cartoons satirizing two very different films: The Intouchables, just selected as Frances Academy Awards entry in the foreign-language film category; and Innocence of Muslims, a film less foreign to those who follow the news than it has any right to be.



hedbo-233.png



The cover of the Charlie Hebdo issue in question is a crude depiction of an Orthodox Jewish man pushing a Muslim man in a wheelchair: The Intouchables 2, it reads. (The actual Intouchables is a cloying tale of a rich white man who, paralyzed in a paragliding accident, hires a poor black man to care for him. Guess who gets his joie de vivre back?) When you turn the pages, you see ungainly caricatures, presented more or less as advertisements for a filmonly tenuously connected with the front covers spoofsure to set the Muslim world ablaze. Muhammad, labelled as such, is shown naked and bending over, begging to be admired. Then the Prophet is crouched on all fours, with genitals bared. A Star is Born! the caption readsa reference to the attention given Innocence of Muslims, a trifle of murky and unpleasant provenance, that has been invoked in attacks leading to the death of almost fifty people to date, including J. Christopher Stevens, Americas Ambassador to Libya.


(Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, the fifty-five-year-old Californian man believed to be the videos creator, is in jail after an arrest yesterday for violating eight terms of his probation in a 2010 bank-fraud case. The charges include using aliases; if he is in fact the filmmaker, he would have violated terms from another case that restricted his use of the Internet.)


When word got out a week ago Monday that the paper was printing a representation of Muhammadan act that many Muslims consider blasphemousParis police called the editor (and cover cartoonist), Stphane Charbonnier, just as the issue was closing. Charb, as he is known, sent the prefecture the front and back covers, and the police urged him to think again. He declinedsatire is, after all, his bread and butterand the issue hit newsstands a week ago Wednesday.


Immediately, the French government increased security and announced its decision to close the twenty foreign outposts last Friday, which was a Muslim day of prayer. French Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault issued a statement criticizing the cartoons and any such excess. Politicians and editorial pages in much of France attacked the drawings as irresponsible, inopportune, and imbecilic. Why now, they asked, and why at all? The right-leaning newspaper Le Figaro rebuked the weekly for publishing silly provocations that fall into the trap of the Islamists, while the Roman Catholic La Croix asserted that editorial responsibility requires an assessment of the consequences of what one publishes and that fuelling the flames to show ones noble resistance to extremism leads to offending simple believers. Laurent Fabius, Frances Foreign Minister, said on public radio, In the present context, given this absurd video that has been aired, strong emotions have been awakened in many Muslim countries. He asked, rhetorically, Is it really sensible or intelligent to pour oil on the fire?


Charbonnier, Charlie Hebdos editor, sounds exactly sensible and intelligent when he says that the cartoons will only shock those who will want to be shocked. He also told Le Monde, I dont feel as though Im killing someone with a pen. Im not putting lives at risk. When activists need a pretext to justify their violence, they always find it.


This is not the first time Charlie Hebdo has metor sparkedcontroversy. Last fall, the paper printed an issue guest-edited by MuhammadCharia Hebdothe cover of which promised 100 lashes if you dont die of laughter! Charb found his offices firebombed and his Web site hacked in response. (The site read: You keep abusing Islams almighty Prophet with disgusting and disgraceful cartoons using excuses of freedom of speech. Be Gods curse upon you!) The weekly pushed back by declaring love stronger than hate, with a slobbery cover cartoon of a Muslim man kissing a pasty-white male cartoonist.


The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has condemned Charbs latest cartoons as blasphemous. But blasphemy may well be the point: Charlie Hebdo clearly thinks so. With its offices under police protection, Charb said that mocking Islam must continue until Islam is just as banal as Catholicism. The taboothe blasphemy, the untouchableis the very reason. Le Monde reminded its readers that religions can be freely analyzed, criticized, even ridiculed. This, after all, has been the case since Voltaire. The left-leaning French daily Libration went so far as to call blasphemy a sacred right. In a democracy, it said, every publication is free to establish its editorial line; every reader is free to read or not read; free is every offended person to seek reparation before the courts, the only legal arm. And lets hope that, in other regimes, arms of a different nature are not used. Banning anything that anyone calls blasphemousespecially when it is a matter of vocal chords or inkis a kind of violence itself.




The aim is to laugh, Laurent Lger, a journalist at Charlie Hebdo, told CNN. We want to laugh at the extremistsevery extremist. They can be Muslim, Jewish, Catholic. Everyone can be religious, but extremist thoughts and acts we cannot accept.


Perhaps Frances precautions abroad were tactically wise: the Friday that it closed its embassies, at least nineteen people died in violence in Pakistan, related to government-sanctioned protests against the American anti-Islam video. The next day, a Pakistani cabinet minister offered a hundred thousand dollars for the death of the videos creator. But there was also a chilling effect in the streets of France, where the Prime Minister banned the protests against the American-made Innocence of Muslims that had been scheduled for Saturday, demanding that les flics crack down if need be. Interior Minister Manuel Valls confirmed this directive to Reuters, and added, in an even harder line, Neither will I allow street prayers, which have no place in this republic. And naturally the law will apply to anyone who wears the full face veil.


But fiery cartoons may be better answered with fiery cartoons, like those in Al-Watan, a secular Egyptian newspaper, which Monday printed cartoons that ring in their own way of the #Muslimrage meme. One depicts a pair of glasses, each lens showing one of the Twin Towers engulfed in smoke. The caption reads, Western glasses for the Islamic world. On Wednesday, the Spanish satirical magazine El Jueves published on its cover a controversial cartoon of its own: a police lineup of Muslim men, under a caption But does anyone know what Muhammad looks like?


The New Yorkers cartoon editor, Robert Mankoff, wrote this week that the only culturally, ethnically, religiously, and politically correct cartoon is an empty one (his illustration of such an uncompromised cartoon was an empty white box). Mankoff might agree with the Charlie Hebdo currently on newsstands, with its big red (self-imposed) banner across the cover reading Irresponsible newspaper. The cover depicts The Invention of Humor: an oafish caveman adding oil to fire.


As Salman Rushdie recently told the New York Timess Charles McGrath, on the release of his memoir, Joseph Antonwhich describes the ten years he lived in hiding in response to an Iranian fatwa over his novel The Satanic Versesthe debate over blasphemy is not purely static. McGrath asked Rushdie whether he thinks what happened to him changed anything.


Rushdie replied, Some of the British Muslims now say, We think we were wrong. Some of them for tactical reasons, but others are actually using the free-speech argument: If we want to say what we want, he has to be allowed to say what he wants. So I think some little bit of learning has happened.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-charlie-hebdo-affair-laughing-at-blasphemy/


duh! some freedom of speech!! yehi satire holocaust k bare mein kr k dekhte to lag pata jata. . anyways in idiots ko taqreeban sari duniya k leaders ne warn kiya tha apni filth religion per na utare, magar ye na mane. . ab bhugto. .
 

t_nsaim

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

Hopefully people belonging to "religion of peace" are not involved in this attack against freedom of expression.

freedom of expression? Why PK is banned in India? Simple question from you mr. Zionist Hindu.
 

gZionist

Banned
Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

freedom of expression? Why PK is banned in India? Simple question from you mr. Zionist Hindu.

Are you high on weeds?? Pk made 400 crores of RS in India. Its not banned. some RW Hindu people came out to protest demanding similar satires to be made against other abraham religions.
 

fannekhan

Banned
Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

Do you think that i Take Shite from AL Jazeera? Do you think that? How Naive of you.

you yourself are proving that you are a born ...............head. because you will take any shitt from ummat type as gospel truth , o brainwashed old man.
 

Fatema

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
kya kahna chahti hai ? logo ke genocide par satire likhe jaye ?


Jews Holocaust ko le ker bohot sensitive hein. agar is per question bhi kiya jae to yeh offensive samjha jata hey. . freedom of expression mein ye bhi hota jahan Islam or muslims ko target kiya wahan jews specially Israelis atrocities ka bhi satire banate. even agar ISIS or dusre extremist ko target kerte magar direct Rasul Allah swt per ese cartoon banana, phir result bhi dekh liya. ab sare muslims per revenge attacks hon ge.
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
duh! some freedom of speech!! yehi satire holocaust k bare mein kr k dekhte to lag pata jata. . anyways in idiots ko taqreeban sari duniya k leaders ne warn kiya tha apni filth religion per na utare, magar ye na mane. . ab bhugto. .
mubarak ho. Islam (phir se) bach geya!!!
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M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Eleven dead, 10 wounded in Paris shooting:

tum hindu haramzadoo ko Mughal ery main khatam kar dena chayea tha , If I were Mughal King , main is Sub continent main Hindu nasal hi khatam kar deta.instead of killing Hindus that basterd shajan was busy building Taj Mahal..2000 years waisted...damn it
replace Hindu with Muslim and you sound just like a Hindutva idiot. you are no different from those who have same hatred for Muslims.

mind your language mard-e-mujahid.
 

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