نبی کریم غیب کا علم جانتے تھے

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QaiserMirza

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Veila Mast

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Even a student who knows basic of Algorithm shall agree that statement starting with IF is conditional one.

Therefore to decide whether statement is true or false depends upon it's effects.

For example above statement that Rasool Allah pbuh does not possess knowledge of unseen shall be true when we agree upon both of two effects.

  1. He did not secure any bounty!
  2. Evil did touch him!

Now my question to Qaiser Sahab is whether two effects took place or not!
 

babadeena

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Unseen and Prophet(PBUH)
http://www.quraneasyurdu.net/l00031/unseenprophet/p.html
Unseen and Allah(SWT)
http://www.quraneasyurdu.net/l00031/unseenallah/p.html
قُلْ لَا أَقُولُ لَكُمْ عِنْدِي خَزَائِنُ اللَّهِ وَلَا أَعْلَمُ الْغَيْبَ وَلَا أَقُولُ لَكُمْ إِنِّي مَلَكٌ ۖ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحَىٰ إِلَيَّ ۚ قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِي الْأَعْمَىٰ وَالْبَصِيرُ ۚ أَفَلَا تَتَفَكَّرُونَ [FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica]{50**[/FONT]
[SIZE=-1][Shakir 6:50] Say: I do not say to you, I have with me the treasures of Allah, nor do I know the unseen, nor do I say to you that I am an angel; I do not follow aught save that which is revealed to me. Say: Are the blind and the seeing one alike? Do you not then reflect?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][Yusufali 6:50] Say: "I tell you not that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor do I know what is hidden, nor do I tell you I am an angel. I but follow what is revealed to me." Say: "can the blind be held equal to the seeing?" Will ye then consider not?[/SIZE]

I do not see here any "IF".
 

sarbakaf

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my question is why to start a debatable topic when you know that most of the people of thisforum are not scholars?

is that that you want to educate us ...or you want us to fight ?????


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Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Qasir Bhai u again stared the problem,

By the way when r leaving again ?
 

Raaz

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He dont know any thing, only Our Professors / scienties , doctors knows a bit.

Allah has send hazrat Muhammad as Ummi and told nothing.:naooz:

This Quran which is called noor by Allah tala was given to him.

I think baba Deena and u know every thing.

You people r problem creater, and have no sense of Islam.

Doctor could tell that u that have this diease and this the life span, or tomorrow may be the last day.

But Hazrat Muhammad was normal person like Baba deena andyou..

To led the Jang Badar and Badadeen wone Khandak ...... is it like that.

Mirza , dont u know the theory of relativity ?

Every thing is mearured in a relative sense.

بعد از خدا بزرگ توئی قصہ مختصر
 

Pakistani1947

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عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَىٰ غَيْبِهِ أَحَدًا (Al-Jinn, 72:26)
Yusuf Ali 26: "He (alone) knows the Unseen, nor does He make any one acquainted with His Mysteries,- ((Al-Jinn, 72:26))
وہ غیب جاننے والا ہے اپنے غائب کی باتوں پر کسی کو واقف نہیں کرتا

قُل لَّا يَعْلَمُ مَن فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ الْغَيْبَ إِلَّا اللَّهُ ۚ وَمَا يَشْعُرُونَ أَيَّانَ يُبْعَثُونَ (An-Naml,27:65)
Yusuf Ali 65: Say: None in the heavens or on earth, except Allah, knows what is hidden: nor can they perceive when they shall be raised up (for Judgment). (An-Naml,27:65)
کہہ دے الله کے سوا آسمانوں اور زمین میں کوئی بھی غیب کی بات نہیں جانتا اور انہیں اس کی بھی خبر نہیں کہ کب اٹھائے جائیں گے

قُل لَّا أَقُولُ لَكُمْ عِندِي خَزَائِنُ اللَّهِ وَلَا أَعْلَمُ الْغَيْبَ وَلَا أَقُولُ لَكُمْ إِنِّي مَلَكٌ ۖ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحَىٰ إِلَيَّ ۚ قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِي الْأَعْمَىٰ وَالْبَصِيرُ ۚ أَفَلَا تَتَفَكَّرُونَ (Al-Anaam,6:50)
Yusuf Ali 50: Say: "I tell you not that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor do I know what is hidden, nor do I tell you I am an angel. I but follow what is revealed to me." Say: "can the blind be held equal to the seeing?" Will ye then consider not? (Al-Anaam,6:50)
کہہ دو میں تم سے یہ نہیں کہتا کہ میرے پاس الله کے خزانے ہیں اور نہ میں غیب کا علم رکھتا ہوں اور نہ یہ کہتا ہوں کہ میں فرشتہ ہوں میں تو صرف اس وحی کی پیروی کرتا ہوں جو مجھ پر نازل کی جاتی ہے کہہ دو کیا اندھا اور آنکھوں والا دونوں برابر ہو سکتے ہیں کیا تم غور نہیں کرتے

قُل لَّا أَمْلِكُ لِنَفْسِي نَفْعًا وَلَا ضَرًّا إِلَّا مَا شَاءَ اللَّهُ ۚ وَلَوْ كُنتُ أَعْلَمُ الْغَيْبَ لَاسْتَكْثَرْتُ مِنَ الْخَيْرِ وَمَا مَسَّنِيَ السُّوءُ ۚ إِنْ أَنَا إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ وَبَشِيرٌ لِّقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ
Yusuf Ali 188: Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me: I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith." (Al-Araf, 7:188)​

کہہ دو میں اپنی ذات کے نفع و نقصان کا بھی مالک نہیں مگرجو الله چاہے اور اگر میں غیب کی بات جان سکتا تو بہت کچھ بھلائیاں حاصل کر لیتا اور مجھے تکلیف نہ پہنچتی میں تو محض ڈرانے والا اور خوشخبری دینے والا ہوں ان لوگوں کو جو ایمان دار ہیں
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
my question is why to start a debatable topic when you know that most of the people of thisforum are not scholars?

is that that you want to educate us ...or you want us to fight ?????


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This is called Fasadi Ansar. and they r growing.

Qasir , Whan u know that Hazrat Muhamad dont have knowledge , Why u r posting.

Did some body say it that he knows more than Allah in forum.

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