ملتان میٹرو بس سروس بہترین قرار

Geek

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
شہریوں نے ملتان میٹرو بس سروس کو لاہور ، روالپنڈی سے بہتر قرار دے دیا



لاہو ر: پنجاب میں مختلف منصوبوں کو تجربات کی بھینٹ چڑھانا تو ایک عام سی بات ہو گئی ہے ۔ پنجاب خاص طور لاہورمیں بننے والے منصوبےمتعدد دفعہ تجربات کی بھینٹ چڑھ چکے ہیں ۔ اس کی ایک مثال تو یہ ہے کہ لاہور کی متعدد سڑکیں بننے کے فورََا بعد ہی نئی اور کھلی کرنے کے لیے دوبار ہ توڑ دی جاتیں ہیں۔

چند دن پہلے ایک سروے کے دوران پنجاب تین جگہوں پر بنائی جانے والی میٹرو کے بارے میں سروے کے دوران پوچھا گیا کہ کو ن سی میٹرو بہتر ۔ ملتان ، راولپنڈی ، اور لاہور کی میٹرو سروسز کے بارے میں پوچھے گئے سوال کا جواب انتہائی مخلتف آیا ۔ تینوں شہروں کے باسیوں کی زیادہ تعداد نے ملتان کی میٹرو بس سروس کو بہترین قرار دیا ۔ جبکہ راولپنڈی بس سروس کو دوسر ا مقام ملا ۔ سب سے پہلے بنائی جانے والی میٹرو بس سروس لاہور کو تیسرا مقام ملا۔
شہریوں کا کہناتھا کہ لاہور میٹرو بس سروس کو شروع کرنے میں انتہائی جلد بازی کا مظاہرہ کیا گیا ۔ اس کی خوبصورتی اور پائیداری کا بھی خیال نہین رکھا گیا ۔ اس کے برعکس ملتان میٹرو میں جلد بازی کی بجائے تجربے کی بنیاد پر کام کیا ۔ شہریوں کی بڑی تعداد نے پوچھے گئے سوال کے جواب میں کہا کہ لاہور میٹرو پر تجربات کیئے گئے جس کے بعد انہی تجربات کی روشنی میں روالپنڈیاور ملتان کی میٹرو سروس بنائی گئی ۔
آیئے ہم آپکو تینوں میٹرو بس سروسز کی تازہ ترین تصاویر دکھاتے ہیں جس سے آپکو معلوم ہو جائے گا کہ کون سی میٹرو سروس بہتر ہے ۔
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PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بسیں جرمنی جیسے ترقی یافتہ ملک میں بھی چلتی ہیں مگر ان ملکوں کے لوگ عقل مند اور اپنی عوام کے پیسے کی ایک ایک پائی کا خیال رکھتے ہیں۔ انہوں نے میٹرو کے نام پر کھربوں کے پل نہیں کھڑے کئے اور ملک کو خسارہ دینے والی سروس نہیں شروع کی بلکہ انہی سڑکوں کو اس قابل بنایا کہ وہاں بسیں بھی بغیر کسی ٹریفک کی پریشانی کے چلتی ہیں

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اللہ ان حکمرانوں کی سخت پکڑ کرے جو بسوں کے نام پر اپنا سریہ اور سیمنٹ بیچ رہے ہیں۔ اللہ ان کی سخت پکڑ کر۔
 
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ThirdUmpireFinger

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بسیں جرمنی جیسے ترقی یافتہ ملک میں بھی چلتی ہیں مگر ان ملکوں کے لوگ عقل مند اور اپنی عوام کے پیسے کی ایک ایک پائی کا خیال رکھتے ہیں۔ انہوں نے میٹرو کے نام پر کھربوں کے پل نہیں کھڑے کئے اور ملک کو خسارہ دینے والی سروس نہیں شروع کی بلکہ انہی سڑکوں کو اس قابل بنایا کہ وہاں بسیں بھی بغیر کسی ٹریفک کی پریشانی کے چلتی ہیں

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اللہ ان حکمرانوں کی سخت پکڑ کرے جو بسوں کے نام پر اپنا سریہ اور سیمنٹ بیچ رہے ہیں۔ اللہ ان کی سخت پکڑ کر۔

Europe big cities built underground systems hundred of years ago but for pakistan it is very expensive to have such a large system build underground. The amount of trafic we have you simply cant have bus lanes on narrow roads. I think you are not doing justice with comparing pakistan with europe. I wish Karachi and lahore had under ground system built long time ago but we were always busy in dharnas and long marches and making jihadi groups to bomb neighbouring countries.
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Europe big cities built underground systems hundred of years ago but for pakistan it is very expensive to have such a large system build underground. The amount of trafic we have you simply cant have bus lanes on narrow roads. I think you are not doing justice with comparing pakistan with europe. I wish Karachi and lahore had under ground system built long time ago but we were always busy in dharnas and long marches and making jihadi groups to bomb neighbouring countries.

This is rubbish. If you see Islamabad there was enough place for busline, but they wanted to sell their cement and Iron, so they did. They built bridges where they could sell cement and Sarya.

Dharna was very important and legal right of people. Due to Dharna, nawaz will be disqualified inshaAllah very soon. In democracy Govt. protect such acts. Not like Jahil Nawaz Shareef and his supporters who used frontier core Jawans and Punjabi Police against Pakistani democratic movement.

Pakistan itself is victim of Terrorism. India funded Afghan TTP Terrorists and killed more than 80.000 Civilians in past decade. This is what you must condemn, instead saying we bomb other countries.
 
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miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Europe big cities built underground systems hundred of years ago but for pakistan it is very expensive to have such a large system build underground. The amount of trafic we have you simply cant have bus lanes on narrow roads. I think you are not doing justice with comparing pakistan with europe. I wish Karachi and lahore had under ground system built long time ago but we were always busy in dharnas and long marches and making jihadi groups to bomb neighbouring countries.

Your claim of not having extra space alongside the roads is shattered by seeing the images, where the overhead bridges can be seen along side the same road. And this is what we are against, but basically it seems that merely to sell Iron from their mills they have made these overhead bridges while they could only extend the roads on the sides to achieve the Bus route..
 

BrotherKantu

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بسیں جرمنی جیسے ترقی یافتہ ملک میں بھی چلتی ہیں مگر ان ملکوں کے لوگ عقل مند اور اپنی عوام کے پیسے کی ایک ایک پائی کا خیال رکھتے ہیں۔ انہوں نے میٹرو کے نام پر کھربوں کے پل نہیں کھڑے کئے اور ملک کو خسارہ دینے والی سروس نہیں شروع کی بلکہ انہی سڑکوں کو اس قابل بنایا کہ وہاں بسیں بھی بغیر کسی ٹریفک کی پریشانی کے چلتی ہیں

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اللہ ان حکمرانوں کی سخت پکڑ کرے جو بسوں کے نام پر اپنا سریہ اور سیمنٹ بیچ رہے ہیں۔ اللہ ان کی سخت پکڑ کر۔

اس پھودو قوم کو چور سیاستداں تھوک لگا رہے ہیں اور کیا.
 

Zesh Zeshu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Hum logo ki apni koi Soch nai hum log Marez ban chukay personal liking disliking k ,challo in logo nay kam ghalat kia Sindh KPK main kia kar lia Public transport k liye ? kitni tunnels khodi ja chuki hain underground bannay k liye ?
Aietiraz wo karain jinho nay kuch kar k diekhiea ho ,ik to karna kuch nai jo kar rhy un k kamo main kieray nikalna , un k pass yeh tunnels 100 saal purani hain and un ko he wo utilise kar rhy , Khud hum logo ko Driving licence lietay mout parti khud hamien pata ni k gari ko line main kis tarhan chalani lakin hamien yeh pata k Europe yeh fla chieaz kiesi hy fla kiesi hy
Yeh koi nai bolay gha k udhe ki awam insan k putar hain ,or hum dangr hain hamien koi siedha kam k khieay gha to hum ulta chalain ghy khd ghalat karain ghy lakin agar koi kuch kar rha ho gha us ko hum nay tanqeed ka nishana zaroor banana
 

Awan-1

Minister (2k+ posts)
Yeh signal free Metro hay. Asie Bus service Europe tau kia America USA main bhee nahein hay. Yeh pahley government hay jo Awam kay leay kaam ker Rahee hay.

Aur Hazzarion (1000) projects per kaam ho raha hay aur corruption ka koie case abhi tak nahein samnay aya. Tanqeed beray Tanqeed to Pakistan Dushman kertay rahain gay.
 

aamir_uetn

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
بسیں جرمنی جیسے ترقی یافتہ ملک میں بھی چلتی ہیں مگر ان ملکوں کے لوگ عقل مند اور اپنی عوام کے پیسے کی ایک ایک پائی کا خیال رکھتے ہیں۔ انہوں نے میٹرو کے نام پر کھربوں کے پل نہیں کھڑے کئے اور ملک کو خسارہ دینے والی سروس نہیں شروع کی بلکہ انہی سڑکوں کو اس قابل بنایا کہ وہاں بسیں بھی بغیر کسی ٹریفک کی پریشانی کے چلتی ہیں

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اللہ ان حکمرانوں کی سخت پکڑ کرے جو بسوں کے نام پر اپنا سریہ اور سیمنٹ بیچ رہے ہیں۔ اللہ ان کی سخت پکڑ کر۔

پاکستانی اس طرح کبھی بھی بس کو راستہ نہیں دیں گے ، بہت وقت ہے شعور کی اس حد تک پہنچنے میں
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I agree as USA and Europe governments are answerable to its people which is not the case in our country. These countries are not rich like Pakistan where government will built such projects and then will give Operation to Alburraq a Turkish Company. Also, Europe/USA will bring same kind of projects when their rulers will own companies related to construction.
Yeh signal free Metro hay. Asie Bus service Europe tau kia America USA main bhee nahein hay. Yeh pahley government hay jo Awam kay leay kaam ker Rahee hay.

Aur Hazzarion (1000) projects per kaam ho raha hay aur corruption ka koie case abhi tak nahein samnay aya. Tanqeed beray Tanqeed to Pakistan Dushman kertay rahain gay.
 

انجام

MPA (400+ posts)
میٹرو سسٹم چاہے لاہور میں ہو یا اسلام آباد یا ملتان ہر جگہ یہی صورتحال ہے۔ آپ کو فٹ پاتھ اور سروس روڈ لاہور میں بھی نہیں ملے گا اور راوالپنڈی میں بھی۔ پچھلے 9 سالوں میں جتنا خرچ لاہور راوالپندی اور ملتان پر کیا گیا اس سے بتر تھا کہ 10 نئے شہر بسا کر آبادی وہاں منتقل کی جاتی۔ وہاں تعلیم صحت روزگار کی سہولیات مہیا کی جاتیں۔ تو ان شہروں سے آبادی کا دباؤ نئی جگہوں پر منتقل ہوتا۔ لوگوں کو بڑے شہروں کے دھکے کھانے کی بجائے گھروں کے قریب رزق کمانے کے ذرائع میسر اتے تو بہت بڑے اور بے ہنگم شہر بھی وجود میں نہ آتے۔
مگر قوم ابھی تک صرف افراد کے بدلاؤ میں مگن ہے، یہ کچھ عمران کو گالیاں دیتے ہیں۔ کچھ زرداری کو، کچھ نواز شریف کو۔ حالانکہ ان میں سے کسی میں بھی نہ صلا حیت ہے نہ ہی نظام انکو
[FONT=&quot]آپ کے لئے سہولیات مہیا کرنے دیگا۔
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]یہ لوگ صرف خیراتی ادارے بنا کر آپ کو بھیک پر لگائے رکھیں گے۔ کبھی ایسے فیصلے اسمبلیوں میں نہیں کریں گے جن سے لوگوں کو اتفاق و اتحاد میسر آئے ۔ ان کے بظاہر دست وگریبان ہونا بھی ایک دھوکہ ہے۔ یہ ایسی چومکھی لڑئی ہے جو کبھی ختم نہیں ہوتی۔

جبتک اس پوری کی پوری اشرافیہ کو نکال باہر کرنے کے لئے آپ جدوجہد نہیں کرتے آپ کو کچھ نہیں ملے گا۔ [/FONT]​
 

lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Your claim of not having extra space alongside the roads is shattered by seeing the images, where the overhead bridges can be seen along side the same road. And this is what we are against, but basically it seems that merely to sell Iron from their mills they have made these overhead bridges while they could only extend the roads on the sides to achieve the Bus route..
Most of Dubai Metro is also overhead. They had lots of Land. 16 lane Highways. Why'd they go Overhead?

Pakistan lacks modern infrastructure which are required for underground metro or road level metro. It's easier to build overhead tracks for rail or bus in areas which
1. Don't have modern sewerage systems.
2. Don't have documented underground utility lines infrastructure.
3. Security
4. Don't have a proper road sense system. (Lanes / Driving Licenses)
5. Land acquisition system that would significantly delay acquisition.

When you are chasing investors, they don't want to sit and wait for you to first build these things and then invest. The money is there and it needs to be put to use ASAP. And the best choice in my opinion is going overhead thereby getting a fresh clean start to build something.
 

Admiral

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

اس قوم کو ہسپتالوں اور سکولوں کی ضرورت نہیں

قوم کا فلسفہ ہے کہ::۔
ہسپتالوں کی اس لیے ضرورت نہیں کیونکہ زندگی موت تو اللہ کے ہاتھ میں ہے (اپنی کوتاہیاں بھی رب کے ذمے ڈال دیتے ہیں یہ بدبخت) اس لیے ہسپتال کا ہم کیا کرنا
لیکن میٹرو، اور اورنج ٹرین تو میاں صآب نے بنا کر دینی ہے

 

miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Most of Dubai Metro is also overhead. They had lots of Land. 16 lane Highways. Why'd they go Overhead?

Pakistan lacks modern infrastructure which are required for underground metro or road level metro. It's easier to build overhead tracks for rail or bus in areas which
1. Don't have modern sewerage systems.
2. Don't have documented underground utility lines infrastructure.
3. Security
4. Don't have a proper road sense system. (Lanes / Driving Licenses)
5. Land acquisition system that would significantly delay acquisition.

When you are chasing investors, they don't want to sit and wait for you to first build these things and then invest. The money is there and it needs to be put to use ASAP. And the best choice in my opinion is going overhead thereby getting a fresh clean start to build something.

We are talking about Metro Bus not Metro Train. Even in Dubai Metro Buses run through the traffic, google it.. As for Metro Train they run overhead because their system is electric, so it will be dangerous)for people and animals) to make it on land.. Now lets come to your point by point answers..

1) Will we modernize our system after making such expensive infrastructure? Isn't it good to invest in modernizing the system to effectively use the roads for growing needs? What will you do in future when the population will tripple? Make an overhead system over an overhead system? Massive traffic jam are already a problem despite these metro bus route(or perhaps because of this separate Metro route which only has few buses and the space could have been used as an extension of existing roads..

2) That's our basic criticism over PML-N that they don't set system but keep on building new things leaving behind more problems. Believe me if they don't address these problems at this time, when there is less infrastructure and less investment required, then they never will.. All in all the basics must be addressed, else you will keep building new floors on a building whose foundation will at some time stops supporting the infrastructure and will collapse..

3) Building 1 billion rupees worth of building for securing 1 lac rupees is naive... If ruling Elite were honest, they would have saved 2/3rd of amount(which is in billions) by making a land Metro Bus(than an overhead), and would have used that saved amount for security of the country(which would have its other fruits as well and more investment so such an investment wouldn't have been bad for the country)..

4) This basic thing could have been addressed by merely using separators between the bus route and the basic traffic.. Another benefit of such thing is that you could use the Bus route for basic traffic in cases of bad traffic jams..

5) A poor country can afford delay of a year if it saves them billions of rupees, alongside with the fact that the wait will be better for future planning as well like I mentioned above..
 

lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If you remember, the MetroBus in Lahore was an afterthought. The initial plan was a Metro Rail. It was cut down to a Bus. This Bus Route can be setup for Metro Rail if need be.

The Proper way to do this if Time and Money were unlimited; is how you would suggest. But Time and Money are not unlimited in Pakistan.

The Sewerage system isn't a priority for the Punjab Government. It should be, but it isn't. The City Planning of Lahore has been dysfunctional. If you look at Lahore it is spreading like a Cancer. While most cities of the World tend to grow Vertically, Our cities spread like cancer over the land. Already Lahore has reached Raiwind. And now its moving towards the Indian border. If the Government had some balls they would impose regulation that sets a City Limit on Lahore. Transportation in a City like lahore is going to be a nightmare. Due to bad city planning Lahore needs Metro access, be it train or bus.

As for the rest of the infrastructure, You guys take it too easy. You all just chalk it down to dishonesty. I take it a step further; I don't think its just dishonesty at play here. I think we Pakistanis are incompetent just as much as we are dishonest. The overhead Metro Lanes are not an engineering marvel, they are a shortcut. They are like a Heart Bypass surgery. Nobody wants to sit and fight it out with city councils, reroute infrastructure, acquire land, goto courts. Its easy to just Build on top. The answer is somewhere in the middle between Dishonesty, Incompetence and the lack of will to do the right thing when it comes to solving engineering problems.

Another example is Electricity. You will often hear people talk about Pakistan's energy deficit. How we need more powerplants to offset this. This is just a small part of the larger problem. The Larger problem is Infrastructure. Look at our electrical grid. Go outside your house. Look up at your electrical pole. Its a nest of wires. Our electrical Grid is the work of a 5 year old. Its a reflection of the Pakistani mindset. One look at it and you will know how your Pakistani brethren really think. What use are powerplants if your distribution system is the way it is?? But naaah.. Let's just build powerplants.

We are talking about Metro Bus not Metro Train. Even in Dubai Metro Buses run through the traffic, google it.. As for Metro Train they run overhead because their system is electric, so it will be dangerous)for people and animals) to make it on land.. Now lets come to your point by point answers..

1) Will we modernize our system after making such expensive infrastructure? Isn't it good to invest in modernizing the system to effectively use the roads for growing needs? What will you do in future when the population will tripple? Make an overhead system over an overhead system? Massive traffic jam are already a problem despite these metro bus route(or perhaps because of this separate Metro route which only has few buses and the space could have been used as an extension of existing roads..

2) That's our basic criticism over PML-N that they don't set system but keep on building new things leaving behind more problems. Believe me if they don't address these problems at this time, when there is less infrastructure and less investment required, then they never will.. All in all the basics must be addressed, else you will keep building new floors on a building whose foundation will at some time stops supporting the infrastructure and will collapse..

3) Building 1 billion rupees worth of building for securing 1 lac rupees is naive... If ruling Elite were honest, they would have saved 2/3rd of amount(which is in billions) by making a land Metro Bus(than an overhead), and would have used that saved amount for security of the country(which would have its other fruits as well and more investment so such an investment wouldn't have been bad for the country)..

4) This basic thing could have been addressed by merely using separators between the bus route and the basic traffic.. Another benefit of such thing is that you could use the Bus route for basic traffic in cases of bad traffic jams..

5) A poor country can afford delay of a year if it saves them billions of rupees, alongside with the fact that the wait will be better for future planning as well like I mentioned above..
 

Munawarkhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
All of these projects show govt incompetence. None of these projects were launched either for the poor or for easing transport challenges. What will happen in the next 5 - 10 years when the traffic and populations grows?

If you are investing in a high budget transport system, it should be done to overhaul the existing transport system and make a plan that will run atleast for the next 10-15 years. The public should be educated and the system should cover majority of the commercial areas, ensuring people prefer public transport instead of using private vehicles. I don't the metro in all the 3 cities is doing that. Good system probably for the 2% of the cities population but very bad for the city and the government. AS they will equally spend a huge sum subsidising it and running it.



Most of Dubai Metro is also overhead. They had lots of Land. 16 lane Highways. Why'd they go Overhead?

Pakistan lacks modern infrastructure which are required for underground metro or road level metro. It's easier to build overhead tracks for rail or bus in areas which
1. Don't have modern sewerage systems.
2. Don't have documented underground utility lines infrastructure.
3. Security
4. Don't have a proper road sense system. (Lanes / Driving Licenses)
5. Land acquisition system that would significantly delay acquisition.

When you are chasing investors, they don't want to sit and wait for you to first build these things and then invest. The money is there and it needs to be put to use ASAP. And the best choice in my opinion is going overhead thereby getting a fresh clean start to build something.

We are talking about Metro Bus not Metro Train. Even in Dubai Metro Buses run through the traffic, google it.. As for Metro Train they run overhead because their system is electric, so it will be dangerous)for people and animals) to make it on land.. Now lets come to your point by point answers..

1) Will we modernize our system after making such expensive infrastructure? Isn't it good to invest in modernizing the system to effectively use the roads for growing needs? What will you do in future when the population will tripple? Make an overhead system over an overhead system? Massive traffic jam are already a problem despite these metro bus route(or perhaps because of this separate Metro route which only has few buses and the space could have been used as an extension of existing roads..

2) That's our basic criticism over PML-N that they don't set system but keep on building new things leaving behind more problems. Believe me if they don't address these problems at this time, when there is less infrastructure and less investment required, then they never will.. All in all the basics must be addressed, else you will keep building new floors on a building whose foundation will at some time stops supporting the infrastructure and will collapse..

3) Building 1 billion rupees worth of building for securing 1 lac rupees is naive... If ruling Elite were honest, they would have saved 2/3rd of amount(which is in billions) by making a land Metro Bus(than an overhead), and would have used that saved amount for security of the country(which would have its other fruits as well and more investment so such an investment wouldn't have been bad for the country)..

4) This basic thing could have been addressed by merely using separators between the bus route and the basic traffic.. Another benefit of such thing is that you could use the Bus route for basic traffic in cases of bad traffic jams..

5) A poor country can afford delay of a year if it saves them billions of rupees, alongside with the fact that the wait will be better for future planning as well like I mentioned above..

Europe big cities built underground systems hundred of years ago but for pakistan it is very expensive to have such a large system build underground. The amount of trafic we have you simply cant have bus lanes on narrow roads. I think you are not doing justice with comparing pakistan with europe. I wish Karachi and lahore had under ground system built long time ago but we were always busy in dharnas and long marches and making jihadi groups to bomb neighbouring countries.

Hum logo ki apni koi Soch nai hum log Marez ban chukay personal liking disliking k ,challo in logo nay kam ghalat kia Sindh KPK main kia kar lia Public transport k liye ? kitni tunnels khodi ja chuki hain underground bannay k liye ?
Aietiraz wo karain jinho nay kuch kar k diekhiea ho ,ik to karna kuch nai jo kar rhy un k kamo main kieray nikalna , un k pass yeh tunnels 100 saal purani hain and un ko he wo utilise kar rhy , Khud hum logo ko Driving licence lietay mout parti khud hamien pata ni k gari ko line main kis tarhan chalani lakin hamien yeh pata k Europe yeh fla chieaz kiesi hy fla kiesi hy
Yeh koi nai bolay gha k udhe ki awam insan k putar hain ,or hum dangr hain hamien koi siedha kam k khieay gha to hum ulta chalain ghy khd ghalat karain ghy lakin agar koi kuch kar rha ho gha us ko hum nay tanqeed ka nishana zaroor banana

If you remember, the MetroBus in Lahore was an afterthought. The initial plan was a Metro Rail. It was cut down to a Bus. This Bus Route can be setup for Metro Rail if need be.

The Proper way to do this if Time and Money were unlimited; is how you would suggest. But Time and Money are not unlimited in Pakistan.

The Sewerage system isn't a priority for the Punjab Government. It should be, but it isn't. The City Planning of Lahore has been dysfunctional. If you look at Lahore it is spreading like a Cancer. While most cities of the World tend to grow Vertically, Our cities spread like cancer over the land. Already Lahore has reached Raiwind. And now its moving towards the Indian border. If the Government had some balls they would impose regulation that sets a City Limit on Lahore. Transportation in a City like lahore is going to be a nightmare. Due to bad city planning Lahore needs Metro access, be it train or bus.

As for the rest of the infrastructure, You guys take it too easy. You all just chalk it down to dishonesty. I take it a step further; I don't think its just dishonesty at play here. I think we Pakistanis are incompetent just as much as we are dishonest. The overhead Metro Lanes are not an engineering marvel, they are a shortcut. They are like a Heart Bypass surgery. Nobody wants to sit and fight it out with city councils, reroute infrastructure, acquire land, goto courts. Its easy to just Build on top. The answer is somewhere in the middle between Dishonesty, Incompetence and the lack of will to do the right thing when it comes to solving engineering problems.

Another example is Electricity. You will often hear people talk about Pakistan's energy deficit. How we need more powerplants to offset this. This is just a small part of the larger problem. The Larger problem is Infrastructure. Look at our electrical grid. Go outside your house. Look up at your electrical pole. Its a nest of wires. Our electrical Grid is the work of a 5 year old. Its a reflection of the Pakistani mindset. One look at it and you will know how your Pakistani brethren really think. What use are powerplants if your distribution system is the way it is?? But naaah.. Let's just build powerplants.

Yeh signal free Metro hay. Asie Bus service Europe tau kia America USA main bhee nahein hay. Yeh pahley government hay jo Awam kay leay kaam ker Rahee hay.

Aur Hazzarion (1000) projects per kaam ho raha hay aur corruption ka koie case abhi tak nahein samnay aya. Tanqeed beray Tanqeed to Pakistan Dushman kertay rahain gay.
 

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