مسلمانوں میں بے عملی کا سبب: مغفرت کی جھوٹی امیدیں
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Wake up Pak
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Musalman key zawal key waja Quran choor kar ghair Allah key kutub ko maan na hay. Jis din yeah baat samajh aa gai Musalman key halat behtar hona shuru ho jaay gi.
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یہ نصیحت وہ کر رہا ہے جو کسی نتھو خیرے کے کہنے میں آ کر کہہ رہا ہے کے
Secularism is completely compatible with Islam and Muslims.
جبکہ قرآن مجید میں ایسا کچھ نہیں لکھا
Secularism is completely compatible with Islam and Muslims.
جبکہ قرآن مجید میں ایسا کچھ نہیں لکھا
Wake up Pak
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Kiya Quran may yeah hay kay Islamic riyasat honi chaiyay?
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مسلمانوں کی بے عملی کا سب سے بڑا سبب اسلام کا تصورِ دنیا و آخرت ہے۔ اسلام دنیا کو بالکل عارضی، چند روزہ اور مسافر خانہ قرار دیتا ہے جبکہ اس کے مقابلے میں مرنے کے بعد کی زندگی (جس کا آج تک کوئی ثبوت نہیں ملا) کو ہمیشہ ہمیشہ کی زندگی قرار دیتا ہے۔ مسلمان بچے کو پیدا ہوتے ہی یہی سکھایا جاتا ہے، اس لئے مسلمان دنیا کو چند روزہ سمجھ کر اس کیلئے کوئی کاوش نہیں کرتے۔ مزید برآں اسلام اپنے ماننے والوں کو انتہا درجے کی خود غرضی سکھاتا ہے۔ اسلام کہتا ہے صرف اور صرف اپنی ذات کی فکر کرو۔۔
دوسری طرف کافر ہیں، ان کی نظر میں دنیا انفرادی طور پر تو عارضی ہوسکتی ہے، مگر اجتماعی نکتہ نظر سے عارضی نہیں۔ وہ دنیا کو آنے والی نسلوں کیلئے محفوظ اور زیادہ پرآسائش بنانے پر کام کرتے ہیں۔ وہ صرف اپنی ذات کیلئے نہیں سوچتے، بلکہ تمام انسانیت کیلئے سوچتے ہیں۔ اس لئے ان کی بنائی ہوئی پراڈکٹس پوری انسانیت کے کام آتی ہیں۔
دوسری طرف کافر ہیں، ان کی نظر میں دنیا انفرادی طور پر تو عارضی ہوسکتی ہے، مگر اجتماعی نکتہ نظر سے عارضی نہیں۔ وہ دنیا کو آنے والی نسلوں کیلئے محفوظ اور زیادہ پرآسائش بنانے پر کام کرتے ہیں۔ وہ صرف اپنی ذات کیلئے نہیں سوچتے، بلکہ تمام انسانیت کیلئے سوچتے ہیں۔ اس لئے ان کی بنائی ہوئی پراڈکٹس پوری انسانیت کے کام آتی ہیں۔
The very first question to answer for oneself for anyone who claims to be a muslim or nonmuslim is, is islam a religion or a governing system?
Why this question arises? It arises because when a human being comes into this world he comes into this world through other people. One does not raise oneself rather other people raise him. The fact is, where other people are involved or become involved or remain involved then their organisation and regulation is or becomes and remains a necessity. It is because if they do not organise and regulate themselves into a purpose based proper human community for these like reasons then they cannot fulfil these objectives or goals purposefully properly as they should be fulfilled.
This is why islam is not a religion but a governing system from God. It cannot be a religion at all if it is truly from God rather it out of necessity has to be a governing system for organising and regulating humans into a purpose based proper human community in kingdom of their creator and sustainer. Why? Because each and every human being needs help and full support of other human beings otherwise one cannot come into this world, one cannot raise oneself, one cannot look after oneself when one grows old, one cannot look after oneself if one by mistake or by accident becomes invalid or incapacitated or disabled etc etc. Not only that but one may have or develop health problems at any stage during one's life when one needs help and support of others. So one can see why God has given humanity a perfect purpose based proper governing system in order to ensure well being of mankind through their own help and full support of each other by their complementing each other purposefully properly for these like reasons.
These are not the only reasons why people need each other rather there are also other reasons as well. For example, none of the human beings can meet all one's needs and wants all by oneself. Now think about what are daily needs of a human being and how they can be met. From footwear, clothes, food, shelter, education etc etc etc.
The other main reason why people need a purpose based proper governing system is, so that they stick together for peace between themselves so that they could make the needed necessary progress for their prosperity in order to meet their daily needs. Think about if people will not stick together and instead they will get involved in disputes, rivalries, animosities, conflicts, fights and wars between themselves for dominance over each other for undermining each other for securing their own petty personal gains from each other at each other's expense then how will they be able to help and support each other to ensure well being of each other without which they cannot come into the human world or remain in existence in beautiful way way as they should?
Any sensibly person knows for a fact that if one's needs and wants are not met then one's lifeline is cut off. This is why where people can meet needs of each other but they do not then instead of friends they become and remain enemies of each other. Since the quran wants people to become and remain a united and peaceful brotherhood of humanity as an ummah therefore people must think, plan and do all they can to help and support each other by their complementing each other purposefully properly.
This is why 5 pillars of islam are primary or main or key or fundamental aims and objectives of quranic constitution according to which islamic laws are to be legislated and formed. TOWHEED and SALAAH simply mean gathering of mankind under one true God as an ummah. The God who has made himself known to mankind through his prophets and messengers from among mankind themselves throughout times and places. Starting with adam and completing with muhammad. This is why towheed does not mean belief in pooja of one God. This is why salaah does not mean pooja ritual. Moreover salaah ritual cannot be performed in the human world due to days and nights in the human world not being constant and consistent and one cannot face towards kaabah due to the earth itself being a round or spherical object.
For the very same reasons SOWM does not mean holding back oneself from eating and drinking etc etc but to hold oneself back from thinking and doing anything which causes break up or dismantling of the purpose based proper human community that is brought about because it also needs to be maintained. Moreover day and night times are not consistent on the earth therefore such way of fasting cannot be performed in the human world.
For the very same reasons ZAKAAH does not mean 2.5% charity for poor but to think and do all one can for growth, development and strengthening of the purpose based proper human community for expanding it in all directions in the human world and in each and every way which is good and ensures its well being. ZAKAAT the way it is told by mullaans can only and only keep a few muslims very rich and therefore very powerful and all the rest poor and therefore weak and that way it can cause and maintain tensions between rich and poor muslims. This also gives rise to rulers and ruled or masters and slaves. Which makes such islam a controlling, manipulating and abusing mechanism. Islam is a governing system where ummah selects and employs officials for serving community. Muslim government officials are put in place for serving people and not for ruling them.
For the very same reasons HAJJ does not mean a journey to makkah in saudi arabia for visiting a cubical stone structure called kaabah but a sacred journey or undertaking by the purpose based proper human community for bringing about a place or land or kingdom wherein live or reside or stay or dwell people of the purpose based proper human community in kingdom of their creator and sustainer according to his provided purpose based proper guidance for them. This is why once these people have a place to live this way they are to maintain it according to the best of their God given abilities in line with purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind. So HAJJ is a campaign and struggle or fight by the purpose based proper human community for bringing about and maintaining such a kingdom in the human world for ensuring well being of mankind with their help and support by their complementing each other purposefully properly and it is not about making rulers of saudi kingdom rich. Moreover muslim population is nearly 2 billion in the human world and it is continuously increasing and place for gathering of people for HAJJ is not vast enough to accommodate that many people. On one hand God tells people to come freely to it and on the other there is not enough space to accommodate people so they are stopped from coming there. Can such a commandment be from God? So one can see why mullaans and their supporters and followers are a brain dead people who believe and do senseless things.
This is the purpose based proper islam according to the quranic teaching which is a governing system for humanity. This is why islam cannot be a religion because religion is invented by mankind themselves and it has been mainly used to divert mankind from thinking, planning and doing things God told mankind to think, plan and do for their own good for ensuring their own well being with help and full support of each other by their complementing each other purposefully properly. This is why religion has been backed up by dominant people always because it gives them freedom to use and abuse rest of people at will in the very name of God to further their own harmful and destructive agendas against humanity.
I have explained in detail benefits and advantages of God given governing system but can any mullaan or mullaan supporters and followers explain the benefits and advantages of religion? Can secular leaders and supporters or followers do the same for secularism? No way.
From my these explanations one should be able to see what islam is or can be and what islam is not and cannot be. Islam is a purpose based proper way of life for mankind to live by which can ensure their well being which no other way of life or rule law can do for humanity. All other ways of life and rules of laws can only and only lead mankind to their own harm and destruction by hands of each other sooner or later.
Why this question arises? It arises because when a human being comes into this world he comes into this world through other people. One does not raise oneself rather other people raise him. The fact is, where other people are involved or become involved or remain involved then their organisation and regulation is or becomes and remains a necessity. It is because if they do not organise and regulate themselves into a purpose based proper human community for these like reasons then they cannot fulfil these objectives or goals purposefully properly as they should be fulfilled.
This is why islam is not a religion but a governing system from God. It cannot be a religion at all if it is truly from God rather it out of necessity has to be a governing system for organising and regulating humans into a purpose based proper human community in kingdom of their creator and sustainer. Why? Because each and every human being needs help and full support of other human beings otherwise one cannot come into this world, one cannot raise oneself, one cannot look after oneself when one grows old, one cannot look after oneself if one by mistake or by accident becomes invalid or incapacitated or disabled etc etc. Not only that but one may have or develop health problems at any stage during one's life when one needs help and support of others. So one can see why God has given humanity a perfect purpose based proper governing system in order to ensure well being of mankind through their own help and full support of each other by their complementing each other purposefully properly for these like reasons.
These are not the only reasons why people need each other rather there are also other reasons as well. For example, none of the human beings can meet all one's needs and wants all by oneself. Now think about what are daily needs of a human being and how they can be met. From footwear, clothes, food, shelter, education etc etc etc.
The other main reason why people need a purpose based proper governing system is, so that they stick together for peace between themselves so that they could make the needed necessary progress for their prosperity in order to meet their daily needs. Think about if people will not stick together and instead they will get involved in disputes, rivalries, animosities, conflicts, fights and wars between themselves for dominance over each other for undermining each other for securing their own petty personal gains from each other at each other's expense then how will they be able to help and support each other to ensure well being of each other without which they cannot come into the human world or remain in existence in beautiful way way as they should?
Any sensibly person knows for a fact that if one's needs and wants are not met then one's lifeline is cut off. This is why where people can meet needs of each other but they do not then instead of friends they become and remain enemies of each other. Since the quran wants people to become and remain a united and peaceful brotherhood of humanity as an ummah therefore people must think, plan and do all they can to help and support each other by their complementing each other purposefully properly.
This is why 5 pillars of islam are primary or main or key or fundamental aims and objectives of quranic constitution according to which islamic laws are to be legislated and formed. TOWHEED and SALAAH simply mean gathering of mankind under one true God as an ummah. The God who has made himself known to mankind through his prophets and messengers from among mankind themselves throughout times and places. Starting with adam and completing with muhammad. This is why towheed does not mean belief in pooja of one God. This is why salaah does not mean pooja ritual. Moreover salaah ritual cannot be performed in the human world due to days and nights in the human world not being constant and consistent and one cannot face towards kaabah due to the earth itself being a round or spherical object.
For the very same reasons SOWM does not mean holding back oneself from eating and drinking etc etc but to hold oneself back from thinking and doing anything which causes break up or dismantling of the purpose based proper human community that is brought about because it also needs to be maintained. Moreover day and night times are not consistent on the earth therefore such way of fasting cannot be performed in the human world.
For the very same reasons ZAKAAH does not mean 2.5% charity for poor but to think and do all one can for growth, development and strengthening of the purpose based proper human community for expanding it in all directions in the human world and in each and every way which is good and ensures its well being. ZAKAAT the way it is told by mullaans can only and only keep a few muslims very rich and therefore very powerful and all the rest poor and therefore weak and that way it can cause and maintain tensions between rich and poor muslims. This also gives rise to rulers and ruled or masters and slaves. Which makes such islam a controlling, manipulating and abusing mechanism. Islam is a governing system where ummah selects and employs officials for serving community. Muslim government officials are put in place for serving people and not for ruling them.
For the very same reasons HAJJ does not mean a journey to makkah in saudi arabia for visiting a cubical stone structure called kaabah but a sacred journey or undertaking by the purpose based proper human community for bringing about a place or land or kingdom wherein live or reside or stay or dwell people of the purpose based proper human community in kingdom of their creator and sustainer according to his provided purpose based proper guidance for them. This is why once these people have a place to live this way they are to maintain it according to the best of their God given abilities in line with purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind. So HAJJ is a campaign and struggle or fight by the purpose based proper human community for bringing about and maintaining such a kingdom in the human world for ensuring well being of mankind with their help and support by their complementing each other purposefully properly and it is not about making rulers of saudi kingdom rich. Moreover muslim population is nearly 2 billion in the human world and it is continuously increasing and place for gathering of people for HAJJ is not vast enough to accommodate that many people. On one hand God tells people to come freely to it and on the other there is not enough space to accommodate people so they are stopped from coming there. Can such a commandment be from God? So one can see why mullaans and their supporters and followers are a brain dead people who believe and do senseless things.
This is the purpose based proper islam according to the quranic teaching which is a governing system for humanity. This is why islam cannot be a religion because religion is invented by mankind themselves and it has been mainly used to divert mankind from thinking, planning and doing things God told mankind to think, plan and do for their own good for ensuring their own well being with help and full support of each other by their complementing each other purposefully properly. This is why religion has been backed up by dominant people always because it gives them freedom to use and abuse rest of people at will in the very name of God to further their own harmful and destructive agendas against humanity.
I have explained in detail benefits and advantages of God given governing system but can any mullaan or mullaan supporters and followers explain the benefits and advantages of religion? Can secular leaders and supporters or followers do the same for secularism? No way.
From my these explanations one should be able to see what islam is or can be and what islam is not and cannot be. Islam is a purpose based proper way of life for mankind to live by which can ensure their well being which no other way of life or rule law can do for humanity. All other ways of life and rules of laws can only and only lead mankind to their own harm and destruction by hands of each other sooner or later.
mazhabi musalmaan be-amal nahin hen balkeh gumrah hen is liye keh woh aisi baatun ko islam maante aur kehte hen jo islam hen hi nahin aur woh unhi ke mutaabiq amal kerte hen jis ka nateeja woh bhugat rahe hen aur bhugtate rahen ge jab tak mazhabi aqeedun aur kaamun ko chhoren ge nahin aur asal deene islam ko saheeh tarah se jaan ker us per saheeh tarah se amal nahin karen ge.
ye haal sab mazhabi logoon ka hai chahe woh kisi bhi mazhab ke hun. her aik mazhab insaanu ko insaaniyat se door le jaata hai be-bunyaad aur be-asal nuqsaandeh aur tabahkun aqeedun aur kaamun ke zariye jin ka insaanu ki zindagi ko behtareen banaane ka koi taaluq hi nahin hota.
yahee hal secularists ka hai woh her aik ke aik doosre ke saath seeng pansaa dete hen ta keh un ka kaam aisa kerne se un ke mutaabiq chalta rahe. yun log aapas main baat baat per lardte jhagardte rehte hen aur nateeja siwaaye tabahi aur barbaadi ke kuchh bhi nahin nikalta jisse insaaniyat ki behtari ka sawaal hi peda nahin hota. yun her koi aik doosre se khud ko badaa haraami saabit kerne ki koshish main lagaa rehta hai aur yoon un ki zindagiyan tamaam ho jaati hen. ye is liye keh secularist ka hadaf ya maqsad insaaniyat ko behtareen zindagi dena hai hi nahin. ye baat un ke dasateero qawaneen se saaf saaf zahir hai jin ke mutaabiq woh logoon ko bewaqoof banaa ker control kerte hen bajaaye un ki khidmat kerne ke.
asal deene islam logoon ki nazrun se ahista ahista ojhal ho ker reh gayaa hai. albatta is baat ka quwwi imkaan mojood hai keh aik na aik din asal deene islam duniya ke saamne aa ker hi rahe ga. kyunkeh quraan apni asli haalat main mojood hai jis ka asal paighaam hi insaaniyat ko issi duniya main behtareen zindagi dena hai jis ke inaam ke tor per insaanu ko doosri zindagi bhi di jaaye gi. lihaaza jo is zindagi main apna haraami pan dikhaayen ge woh us ki sazaa bhi paayen ge yahaan bhi aur wahaan bhi apne apne nuqsaandeh aqeedun aur amaal ke liye.
ye haal sab mazhabi logoon ka hai chahe woh kisi bhi mazhab ke hun. her aik mazhab insaanu ko insaaniyat se door le jaata hai be-bunyaad aur be-asal nuqsaandeh aur tabahkun aqeedun aur kaamun ke zariye jin ka insaanu ki zindagi ko behtareen banaane ka koi taaluq hi nahin hota.
yahee hal secularists ka hai woh her aik ke aik doosre ke saath seeng pansaa dete hen ta keh un ka kaam aisa kerne se un ke mutaabiq chalta rahe. yun log aapas main baat baat per lardte jhagardte rehte hen aur nateeja siwaaye tabahi aur barbaadi ke kuchh bhi nahin nikalta jisse insaaniyat ki behtari ka sawaal hi peda nahin hota. yun her koi aik doosre se khud ko badaa haraami saabit kerne ki koshish main lagaa rehta hai aur yoon un ki zindagiyan tamaam ho jaati hen. ye is liye keh secularist ka hadaf ya maqsad insaaniyat ko behtareen zindagi dena hai hi nahin. ye baat un ke dasateero qawaneen se saaf saaf zahir hai jin ke mutaabiq woh logoon ko bewaqoof banaa ker control kerte hen bajaaye un ki khidmat kerne ke.
asal deene islam logoon ki nazrun se ahista ahista ojhal ho ker reh gayaa hai. albatta is baat ka quwwi imkaan mojood hai keh aik na aik din asal deene islam duniya ke saamne aa ker hi rahe ga. kyunkeh quraan apni asli haalat main mojood hai jis ka asal paighaam hi insaaniyat ko issi duniya main behtareen zindagi dena hai jis ke inaam ke tor per insaanu ko doosri zindagi bhi di jaaye gi. lihaaza jo is zindagi main apna haraami pan dikhaayen ge woh us ki sazaa bhi paayen ge yahaan bhi aur wahaan bhi apne apne nuqsaandeh aqeedun aur amaal ke liye.
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Wake up Pak
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Jabkay toum khud kisi secular state may reh rahay ho.
atensari
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قرآن مجید کے ترجمے کو مکی اور مدنی آیات کی موضوعات کی روشنی میں سمجھا جائے تو واضح ہوتا ہے کے. مکی دور کے قرآن میں ایمانیات اور انذار آخرت پر زور ہے. مدنی قرآن میں عمل یعنی عبادات، احکامات، شریعت کی تفصیل آئی ہے
. خلافت کا تصور اور اقامت دین کا حکم ریاست سے مشروط ہے. ریاست ہو گی تب ہی سیاست، معاشرت اور معیشت میں شریعت سے مطابقت پیدا کرے گی. تعزیرات کا نفاذ کرے گی. تنازعات کا فیصلہ کرے گی
نام نہاد آزاد خیال طبقے کا پسندیدہ تکیہ کلام ہے "دیکھیں جی جہاد کا حکم تو ریاست دیتی ہے" جب ریاست کے قیام کی بات کی جائے تو کبھی جمہوریت میں وڑ جاتے ہیں کبھی سیکولرازم کی برکات گنوانے لگتے ہیں
atensari
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بہتر روزگار کی تلاش میں خلیجی ممالک آنے والے مسلمان اور غیر مسلم یہاں بادشاہت سے لطف اندوز ہونے نہیں اتے۔
atensari
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بھارت کا چکر لگا آؤ
Cyber_Security
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And at last you come to personal attack, Jao Tum Bharat Jah Kay maro, You didn't say that exactly but you kind of suggesting the same. Any way think when you have time, why Islam's principles are different when they are in minority. If secularism is Haram , it has to be haram in every country. Have a nice day.
atensari
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وہاں سیکولر ازم ہے اس میں مرنے والی کیا بات ہے. مولانا وحید کی چاہے کوئی تقریر پوری نا سنی ہو لیکن اپنی مطلب کے ٹوٹے ایسے لگا رہے ہو جیسے ان کے مقلد ہو. اگر مولانا نے اقلیت میں سیکولر کو حلال کہا ہے تو اس کا منطقی نتیجہ یہی نکلتا ہے کے مسلم اکثریتی ملک میں سیکولرازم حرام ہے
Wake up Pak
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Quran majeed say yea kaysay sabat kar saktay ho kay yeah makki surah hain ya madni?
Khilafat ka tasawwar bhi Quran may nahi hay. Aqamat deen ka matalab to establish way of life. Riyasat ka kaam logoon key infiradi zindagi may amal dakhal nahi hota. Riyasat awam key bhalai kay liyay qawaneen bana tee hay na kay ounkay aqeeday kay mutabiq.
Yeah tumharay teesaray paragraph key koi sense samajh nahi aai.
Wake up Pak
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Behtar roz gar Pakistan may kiyon nahi hay?
atensari
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تمھاری وجہ سے
atensari
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اگر تم قرآن مجید سے ثابت کر سکتے ہو کے فلاں آیت جو مکی بتائی جاتی ہے مدنی ہے اور فلاں آیت جو مدنی ہے مکی ہے تو ضرور بتاؤ
قرآن مجید میں کیا ہے کیا نہیں تمہارے کہہ دینے سے کوئی فرق نہیں پڑتا
پہلے دو کون سے سمجھ آ گئے جو تیسرا نہیں سمجھ نہیں آیا تو کوئی فرق پڑ جائے گا
Wake up Pak
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Kabhi tou koi sense key baat kar liya karo jab jawab nahi hota tou tou toum yeah tou toum woh waghera per aa jatay ho. aaj tak toum nay kuch Quran say sabat nahi kiya her dafa bus aain baain shaain
