طاہر ال قادری پاکستانی یے یا غیر ملکی ؟؟؟

[A.Chaudhry]

Qadris most significant achievement

LAHORE - The most significant outcome of the parleys held between the coalition partners and Dr Tahirul Qadri on Thursday is the consensus point on the proposed legal provision to be incorporated in the electoral laws regarding pre-clearance of candidates under Articles 62, 63 and 218 of the Constitution.
As per the proposed new legal provision, one month will be given for scrutiny of nomination papers and the candidates would not be declared eligible to contest the elections unless all concerned departments including FBR, Income Tax, commercial banks, NAB, police and other institutions issue a clearance certificate about his/ her being not a defaulter on any count.
In other words, all such candidates would be ineligible to contest who had a history of having defaulted on account of payment of their taxes or the loans acquired from different financial institutions. Likewise, the Election Commission would also ensure that prospective candidates have not been found involved in any kind of fraud, financial or other at any stage in their life. A person with criminal background would also be ineligible and a certificate from the police department would be sought. A clearance certificate from NAB would also be mandatory to confirm that the candidate had never committed corruption.
However, it has not been clarified whether or not the candidates would have the right to file appeal against rejection of their nomination papers in the appellate benches consisting of the superior judiciary. The candidates have this under the existing arrangement.
Dr Qadris demand regarding dissolution of National Assembly before March 16 is directly linked to this provision. The election time has been extended to another month to provide sufficient time to the Election Commission to complete the process of scrutiny of candidates credentials. This would happen for the first time in countrys electoral history.
It is expected that majority of the existing lot of politicians would be filtered out as a result of this tight scrutiny to be undertaken jointly by the Election Commission and the departments concerned.

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@Admin , don't merge this one. :)

 

[sahiL]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

Oh Qadri Saab.....lagay raho

 

[PATRIOTIC_PAKISTANI]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

فر قادری ؟

 

[evanescence]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

Inshallah with the grace of Almighty Allah, very soon nation will reap fruits of Long March.

Dr. TQ has done historical development in our system and brought awareness among people of Pakistan.

Thanks Dr. TQ (clap)

 

[patriot_purdesi]

Re: Who Is Dr Tahir al-Qadri?

یہ سیلف میڈ علامہ ہیں۔ یہ چھوٹے سے تھے تو ان کے ابّا مسلم آبادی کی کوششوں میں اتنے مصروف رہے کہ ان کی تعلیم و تربیّت پر توجہ نہ دے سکے۔ یہ سیلف ایجوکیٹڈ اور سیلف ٹرینڈ بندے ہیں۔ یہ دس سال کے تھے تو انہوں نے نام کے ساتھ مولانا لگانا شروع کیا۔ بارہ سال کی عمر میں پپّو، چودہ سال کی عمر میں فخر پتّوکِی اور سولہ سال کی عمرمیں یہ بحرالعلوم بن چکے تھے۔ سترہ سال کی عمر میں انہیں خواب آنے شروع ہوئے ۔ آپ سوچ سکتے ہیں کہ شاید یہ خواب "وہ" والے ہوں جب صبح صبح اٹھ کے سب سے پہلا کام نہانے کا کرنا پڑتا ہے تو آپ کی سوچ نہایت غلط ہے۔ اس عمر میں انہیں بشارت والے خواب آنے لگے۔ یہاں بشارت سے مراد گڈ نیوز ہے، بشارت لالہ ، بنّوں والے نہیں۔ یہ بَلا کے سپیکر ہیں۔ غسل جنابت پر اڑتالیس اڑتالیس گھنٹے سپیچ دے سکتے ہیں۔ ایک دفعہ انہوں نے ختنوں کی اہمیت پر تقریر کرتے ہوئے ان کی اتنی فضیلت بیان کی کہ ان کے فالوورز دوبارہ ختنے کرانے پر تیار ہوگئے۔ ان کی زبان میں جادو ہے، اسی لیے ان کے بچپن کے دوست انہیں سامری جادوگر کہہ کر چھیڑتے تھے۔ جبکہ ایک دو بے تکلف دوست تو انہیں چِٹّی چُوئی بھی کہتے تھے۔ علامہ صاحب کی اعلی ظرفی ملاحظہ کریں ، ان کے کردار کی بلندی کی داد دیں ان کی برداشت اور حوصلہ کو اپریشئیٹ کریں کہ دوبارہ ساری زندگی انہوں نے ایسے چِیپ چیپس کو منہ نہیں لگایا۔یہ بیس سال کی عمر میں پتّوکِی سے مائگریٹ کرکے لاہور تشریف لے آئے۔ آپ ان کی ڈویلپمنٹ کو دیکھ لیں۔ پتّوکِی سے لاہور تک کا سفر انہوں نے اتنی جلدی طے کیا کہ اتنی جلدی تو ٹانگہ داتا دربار سے موچی گیٹ تک نہیں پہنچ سکتا۔لاہور میں آپ کے جوہر ایسے کھلے کہ اب تک بند نہیں ہوئے۔ کشمیری کھانوں سے فرشتوں تک آپ نے ہر لاہوری چیز خوب "ہنڈائی"۔ اسی عرصہ میں بشارتی خوابوں کا بھی زور رہا۔ حاسدین اگرچہ ان خوابوں کو فرائڈ فش، مٹن کڑاہی، چکن تکہ، ملائی بوٹی، ہریسہ، پھجے کے پاوے اور نرالا کے گاجر کے حلوے کے سائڈ افیکٹ قرار دیتے ہیں۔ جب کہ کچھ بدزبان تو کسی شربت وغیرہ کا نام بھی لیتے ہیں۔ واللہ اعلم بالصواب۔
یہ لاہور میں آکے علاّمہ بھی ہوگئے۔ آپ ان کی ہمت دیکھیں، یہ علم کو اپنی لونڈی بنالیتے ہیں اور اس سے وہی سلوک کرتے ہیں جو عرب اپنی لونڈیوں سے کیا کرتے تھے۔ یہ ایک کالج میں لیکچرر بھی رہے۔ اگرچہ ان کے علم کے ساتھ برتاو کو دیکھتے ہوئے انہیں پروفیسری پر پروموٹ کرنا چاہیے تھا لیکن یہاں پر بھی حاسدین کی وجہ سے یہ پروفیسر نہ بن سکے۔ اس کی کسر انہوں نے خود اپنے نام کے ساتھ پروفیسر لگا کر پوری کردی۔ یہ بُلّھڑ یونیورسٹی سے بھی آگے نکل گئے ۔ یہ دوسروں کو ڈگریاں دینے کی بجائے اپنے آپ کو ہی ڈگریاں ایوارڈ کرنےلگے۔ آپ دیکھیں کہ ایسی ایگزامپل ، ہیومن ہسٹری میں تلاش کرنے پر بھی نہیں مل سکتی۔ یہ ٹُرولی ایک گریٹ ریلیجئیس، سپرچوئیل ، ایجوکیشنل اینڈ ریکریئشنل لیڈر ہیں۔ ان کے وژن کا اندازہ لگانا مشکل ہی نہیں ناممکن ہے ، جیسے ڈان کو پکڑنا ناممکن ہے۔
یہ چندہ جمع کرنے میں ایکسپرٹ ہیں۔ کچھ لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ چندا قابو کرنے میں بھی بہت ماہر ہیں لیکن یہ سنی سنائی باتیں ہیں جو ہر کامیاب بندے کے خلاف کی ہی جاتی ہیں۔ لوگ چندے جمع کرکے ایک آدھ مسجد مدرسہ بنالیتے ہیں، یہ ایک پوری ایمپائر کھڑی کرچکے ہیں اور ابھی بھی غریبوں کے زیور اور جائیدادیں بکوا کے اس پیسے سے"ماس پکنک " مناتے ہیں۔ یہ اپنے علم ، تجربے ، ریسرچ پر سانپ بن کر نہیں بیٹھتے بلکہ مناسب نرخوں پر کسی کو بھی اپنی سروسز پروائڈ کرنے پر ہر لحظہ ہر آن ، تیار رہتے ہیں۔ آپ ان سے امریکہ کے خلاف جلوس نکلوالیں، آپ ان سے عزازیل کی حمایت میں ریلی برپا کروالیں، آپ مناسب قیمت لگائیں تو یہ اپنے خلاف بھی دس گھنٹے تقریر کرسکتے ہیں۔ یہ خود کو فرعون، یزید، نمرود، کمینہ، رذیل قرار دے سکتے ہیں۔ آپ اندازہ لگائیں، کیا پاکستان کے کسی لیڈر میں اتنی ہمت ہے؟ یہ اس دور کے سقراط ہیں، فرق صرف اتناہے کہ یہ زہر کی بجائے کالے چُوچے کی یخنی زہر مار کرتے ہیں۔
ہر گریٹ پرسنیلٹی کی طرح انہوں نے بھی ینگ ایج میں بہت نام کمالیاتھا۔ آپ ان کی ریسرچ کو دیکھ لیں ۔آپ ان کی رائٹ کی ہوئی بُکس کی تعداد پر نظر ماریں۔ آپ حیران رہ جائیں گے، آپ کے تراہ نکل جائیں گے۔ آپ سراسیمہ ہوجائیں گے۔ آپ کے ہاتھوں کے کوّے اڑ جائیں گے۔ یہ ایک ایسے آتھر ہیں جو اب تک دس ہزار بُکس لکھ چکے ہیں۔ یہ ڈاکٹر بھی ہیں۔ کمپوڈر بھی۔ انجینئر بھی ہیں اور اور اوور سئیر بھی۔ یہ پریچر بھی ہیں اور پھٹیچر بھی۔ یہ ریفارمر بھی ہیں اور پرفارمر بھی۔ طارق جمیلبھی ہیں اور نادیہ جمیل بھی۔ ایسی کلرفل پرسنیلٹی صرف چارلی چپلن اور ہٹلر کو مکس کرکے ہی تیار کی جاسکتی تھی جو کہ ہماری خوش قسمتی سے ہمیں مفت میں ہی میسر آگئی ہے۔ اس پر ہم خدا کے جتنے بھی تھینک فل ہوں ، کم ہے۔ گاڈ بلیس علاّمہ صاب۔
http://jafar-haledil.blogspot.kr/201...g-post_19.html

 

[rising_pakistan]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

فر قادری ؟

کیوں ہر تھوڑی دائر بعد یہ منحوس شکل دیکھنی پڑتی ہے ؟

 

[PATRIOTIC_PAKISTANI]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

کیوں ہر تھوڑی دائر بعد یہ منحوس شکل دیکھنی پڑتی ہے ؟

ایسا مافیا ہے یہ . قادری کی تمام ویڈیوز یو ٹیوب جسمے اسکے دوغلے پن کو دکھایا گیا تھا غایب کر دے گی ہیں

 

[electric]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

:lol:بہت اچھے قادری صاحب(clap)۔ یہ نورے شورے سب ٹھپ کو جایں ھے۔

 

[Nauman Ghauri]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

Regardless of His personality, we better should congratulate him for his achievement so that others get encouragement to take it further.

 

[Khallas]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

Dramebaz Admi - Qadri Qadri​

 

[PTI SUPPORTER]

Re: Who Is Dr Tahir al-Qadri?

i need to b clarify, is this person met the most hateful person on earth "the cartoonist". Is there any evidence, if it is plz share? its important for Muslims to show his real face otherwise he will spoil whole Muslim community, if there is not such proof then plz don't blame any Muslim, chahy wo bury sy bura musalman hi kun na ho?

 

[A.Chaudhry]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

Dr Farrukh Saleem
Capital suggestion
The mother of all questions? Islamabad’s ‘million-man march’ can be broken down into two: the leader and the followers. A lot has been said about the leader but not much about the followers. The mother of all questions is: Why did tens of thousands of Pakistanis spend four nights under freezing open skies of Islamabad?
How did Imran Khan manage to gather such a large crowd on October 30, 2012? How did Dr Tahirul Qadri manage to gather such a large crowd on December 23, 2012? And, how did Dr Tahirul Qadri manage to keep tens of thousands for four wintry nights in the open? In each one of the above cases my focus is not on the leader but the tens of thousands of Pakistanis who undertook the effort to be present in those gatherings.
Why was there a Tahrir Square? Yes, Hosni Mubarak was a dictator for 30 long years. But why wasn’t there a Tahrir Square in Singapore? After all, Lee Kuan Yew was a dictator who lasted 31 long years. Why wasn’t there a Tahrir Square in Malaysia? After all, Mahathir Mohamad, although elected via five consecutive rather controversial elections, ruled as a dictator for 22 long years. Answer: A Tahrir Square takes place only in states where there is a huge gap between the priorities of the rulers and the needs of the ruled (whether the rulers are elected or not is irrelevant). Why did tens of thousands of Pakistanis spend four nights under freezing open skies of Islamabad? How did Imran Khan manage to gather such a large crowd on October 30? How did Dr Tahirul Qadri manage to gather such a large crowd on December 23? Answer: Pakistanis yearn for a change.
After 65 years of experimenting with different models of governance there now is a consensus on democracy as the model of governance. But an electoral doctrine under which a federal minister can keep 51 vehicles for his personal use needs to be changed. A political doctrine under which the prime minister can divert Rs50 billion from other developmental projects to his own discretionary fund needs to be changed. And, an economic doctrine under which PIA loses Rs70 million a day, every day of the year, needs to be changed.
Just ask any Pakistani, between Khyber and Karachi, these six questions: Is Pakistan heading in the right direction? Would the assemblies that will be formed after Election 2013 be any different from past assemblies? Do we as a nation want to continue with a political doctrine that allows a minister in the federal cabinet to keep 51 official vehicles for his use? Do we as a nation want to continue with an electoral doctrine that allows the prime minister to divert Rs50 billion from development projects to his discretionary fund just before a general election? Do we as a nation want an economic doctrine that allows PIA to loose Rs70 million a day, every day of the year? Do we want an electoral doctrine that allows the chief minister of Balochistan to disburse Rs300 million to each MPA just before elections?
Why can’t the ruling class read the writing on the wall? Lo and behold, we can amend the constitution in a day then why can’t we have electoral reforms before the elections that are still months away?
The writer is a columnist based in Islamabad. Email: [email protected]. Twitter: @saleemfarrukh

 

[A.Chaudhry]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

S Iftikhar Murshed
Since the return to Pakistan last month of the Tehreek-e-Minhaj-ul-Quran (TMQ) chief, Tahirul Qadri, strange things have happened in unexpected ways. A political analyst, thinking loudly, quoted William Cowper’s 1773 hymn: “God moves in a mysterious way, His wonders to perform; He plants His footsteps on the sea, and rides upon the storm.” He then commented that the country had drifted into an ocean of despair and there was little hope for the future.
It is from these perilous waters that Qadri has vowed to navigate the derelict ship of the state towards a haven of enduring stability and progress. But who is this mysterious helmsman whose prescriptions, he claims, will bring in better, happier days?
Is he a Rasputin, who some believe was a faith healer and a mystic, whereas others say was a mad monk, who deliberately helped discredit the tsarist government, which led to the fall of the Romanov dynasty in 1917 and paved the way for the Russian revolution? Qadri also swears by all that is sacred that he will set in motion the wheels of irreversible change that will crush the old, corrupt and decrepit order and replace it with the rule of the righteous.
In his address to a huge rally at Lahore on December 23, 2012 he pledged that he would descend on Islamabad with four million of his supporters on January 14, 2013, if the government did not carry out sweeping electoral reforms in eighteen days (January 10). The event in the federal capital, he said, would overshadow the dramatic protests at Cairo’s Tahrir Square, which, (coincidentally also within a mere eighteen days) had brought down the 30-year-long Hosni Mubarak dictatorship.
Though the actual number of people that Qadri was able to muster for the long march was only a fraction of what he had said it would be, its impact has proved to be consequential. On arriving in Islamabad at 2am on January 15, in a short address he declared with a flourish that the march had ended and a revolution had begun. The corrupt government would crumble within days. True democracy, he said, no longer existed. Its actual visage had been transformed, like the portrait of Dorian Gray, from a thing of beauty to a hideous image of its former self because of the myriad crimes of commission and omission perpetrated by the ruling coterie.
On Tuesday afternoon, Qadri was already two hours into his speech when the Supreme Court ordered the arrest of Prime Minister Ashraf and fifteen other officials on the rental power plant case. The TMQ leader was jubilant. The prime minister and his government, he said, had lost all moral authority to continue in office. In a voice choked with emotion he announced amid thunderous applause that half the battle had been won and urged the enthused audience to offer supererogatory payers of thanksgiving.
He then abruptly adjourned the rally to the next day and said that he would spell out and explain his ‘charter of demands’ which would pull the country out from the quicksand into which it was rapidly sinking. Cicero, the philosopher and statesman of ancient Rome, had once said “how invincible is justice if it be well spoken.” But justice has to be anchored in law, and, in particular, the constitution.
On Wednesday in the course of a lengthy speech, Qadri said that he was not a mullah declaiming from the pulpit of shallow piety, but a lawyer whose objective was to instil an awareness of their constitutional rights among the multitudes. A peaceful revolution, unparalleled in human history, had been launched. It was founded on three basic demands, the fourth being a mechanism to achieve these objectives.
The first, and most important, was that reforms must precede elections or else the same corrupt breed of politicians would win seats in parliament. This did not require any amendment to the constitution. All that was needed was a faithful implementation of Articles 62, 63 and 218 (3) of the basic law, sections 77 to 82 of the Representation of the Peoples’ Act 1976 , and the Supreme Court judgement of June 8, 2012.
Admittedly the assemblies are saturated with tax evaders, fake degree holders, loan defaulters and those who had accumulated colossal wealth through graft and corruption. Qadri spoke at length about the strange poverty of the rich. These were people who lived in luxury but had impoverished their souls from which the priceless virtues of compassion and fellow feeling had long been banished.
The TMQ chief cannot be faulted for insisting that the coming elections must not yield the same poisonous harvest of corrupt parliamentarians. In his address, he implied that all laws are rooted in the rights of men but these existed in vain, as Macaulay believed, for those who did not have the courage to stand up for them.
The second element in Tahirul Qadri’s charter of demands was the dissolution of the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP). Four of its five members were nominees of the provincial governments and were therefore unlikely to be impartial. The only exception was the chief election commissioner, who was a man of unimpeachable probity, but he was not empowered to reverse majority decisions of the ECP no matter how unjust these may be. Qadri, who claims to be a constitutional expert, was surely aware that a restructuring of the ECP would require an amendment to the constitution.
The third demand was the formation of a caretaker setup through consensus among all the stakeholders rather than through the restrictive mechanism involving only the parliamentary leader of the opposition and the prime minister. Though the existing procedure is in accord with the constitution, it does not preclude taking other relevant parties on board.
The fourth and last plank on which Qadri had formulated his agenda for change was a mechanism for the implementation of his first three demands. The distillate was the preclearance of election candidates as per the stipulations of the constitution and the relevant laws. This was achievable within thirty days, and its rationale, as he explained, was “we don’t want law breakers to become law makers.”
He gave the government a deadline till Wednesday night to accept these demands. The next day the political firmament was overcast with dreadful foreboding. In the pouring rain he told tens of thousands of his supporters, who, for four consecutive days and nights had braved near freezing temperatures with astoundingly dignified stoicism, that President Zardari had a mere ninety minutes, or, till 3 pm, to authorise negotiations. If this timeline was not met, there would be consequences.
The government nervously cobbled together a 10-member composite delegation consisting of its coalition partners. Five hours of intensive negotiations yielded the Islamabad Long March Declaration which conceded Tahirul Qadri’s four-point charter of demands. The notable features are: (i) the National Assembly will be dissolved “at any time before March 16, 2013” to enable elections within 90 days; (ii) the caretaker prime minister will be appointed through “complete consensus” between “the treasury benches” and Qadri’s Pakistan Awami Tehreek; and, (iii) the difficulties arising over the composition of the ECP will be sorted out through discussions among legal experts.
Thus the TMQ chief’s objectives have been achieved. He has emerged as a kingmaker as the caretaker prime minister, despite the stipulations of the 20th Amendment, cannot be appointed without his approval. Qadri lavished praise on the composite delegation, yet barely a few hours earlier he had described most of them as the scum of the earth.
The positive outcome of the high drama in the last few days is that the democratic process has not been derailed and the holding of the next elections in time is no longer in doubt. The only thing that can be predicted with mathematical certainty is that Interior Minister Rehman Malik will not be a candidate!
The writer is the publisher of Criterion quarterly. Email: iftimurshed@ gmail.com

 

[Lushahz]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

Success could not be converted in failure through sold media and false propaganda every where, the results of long march are coming now...we should appreciate the efforts of Dr. Qadri...

 

[Lushahz]

Re: Who Is Dr Tahir al-Qadri?

I am very much convinced/hopefull with Dr.TQ's strategy and getting more and more confidence after reading these articles. Thanks God people have admitted and start writing on that. Althougy Yellow journalism never been exposed in our society, very much paid, active and leaving everything behind for disrespecting and defaming Dr.TQ's agenda as well as his personality (same case is with some siasat.pk members). But i guess people of Pakistan are very much awared and they laugh whenever these yellow men open their mouth. Time is not distant when everyone would believe in Dr. TQ.

I second your thoughts Sir...

 

[mahmoodriaz]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

well done Dr.Tahir ul Qadri

 

[Rmalik]

Re: Qadris most significant achievement

Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri, the man of the moment!! Truly amazing leader ...

 

[desan]

Re: Winners & losers of Dr. Qadri's long march.

my thought exactly! how can PPPP PMLN be winners...and how can PTI and judiciary be losers.

total bullcrap analysis!

Now you can see how PPP is coming to the rescue of this puppet. As for PMLn, you know how expert they have become in noora kushti.

 

[SeaBle]

Re: Winners & losers of Dr. Qadri's long march.

Dr Tahir ul Qadri has achieved in one month what status quo parties could not achieve in five years which is a huge achievement, credit due there. We also need to appreciate the nature of this long march, truly awe inspiring that despite marching through 7 major cities of Pakistan Dr Qadris marchers remained civilised, not a single glass was broken, nor a single shop looted, there was no threat of public disorder which is another huge achievement. Very easy to criticise but hardly anyone has achieved what Dr Qadri has managed to achieve through the long march. He has set a precedent and now other political parties are doing the exact same, surprise surprise!

 

[carne]

Re: Winners & losers of Dr. Qadri's long march.

Dr Tahir ul Qadri has achieved in one month what status quo parties could not achieve in five years which is a huge achievement, credit due there. We also need to appreciate the nature of this long march, truly awe inspiring that despite marching through 7 major cities of Pakistan Dr Qadris marchers remained civilised, not a single glass was broken, nor a single shop looted, there was no threat of public disorder which is another huge achievement. Very easy to criticise but hardly anyone has achieved what Dr Qadri has managed to achieve through the long march. He has set a precedent and now other political parties are doing the exact same, surprise surprise!

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