شام اور تلخ حقائق :طلعت حسین

Malik495

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ان نام نہاد مبصرین کا تجزیہ کیمیائی ہتھیاروں سے شروع ہوتا ہے
اور اسی پر ختم ہوتا ہے
اس میں بھی باسانی یہ کنی کاٹ لیتے ہیں کے یہ کیمیائی ہتھیار بھی باغیوں نے خود ہی اپنے علاقوں پر پھینکیں ہیں
اور یہ کنی بھی ان ممالک کی رپورٹ کی بنیاد پر جو خود اس معاملے میں باغیوں کے مخالف ہیں

طلعت شرم کرو
ذرا بشار کے مظالم پر بھی کچھ تحقیق کرو
ڈھائی سال سے کہاں تھے تم؟؟ کتنا لکھا تم نے بشار کے خلاف؟؟
کتنے ظلم آشکار کیے تم نے بشار کے؟؟
میڈیا سے تمہارا تعلق ہے ... ذرا بتاؤ کے دنیا بھر کا ١٠٠ فیصد میڈیا کیا جھوٹ بولتا ہے؟؟
کیا بشار دودھ میں دھلا ہوا ہے؟؟

اگر سارا میڈیا جھوٹ بولتا ہے تو تم بھی جھوٹے هو

اگر تم جیسے لوگ شامی مسلمانوں پر ہونے والے مظالم پر انکے ساتھ کھڑے ہوجاتے تو شاید صورتحال مختلف ہوتی...مگر تم لوگوں نے جو ایرانی چشمہ پہنا ہوا تھا آج اسکا نتیجہ ہے که امریکا مداخلت پر اتر آیا

تم لوگوں نے ایک ظالم کا ساتھ دیا تو آج دوسرا ظالم بھی پر پھیلا رہا ہے

مگر مجھے ایک فیصد بھی نہیں لگتا کے امریکا حملہ کریگا
اور اگر حملہ کیا بھی تو دو چار میزائل داغ دیگا دو چار دن تک عربوں کو خوش کرنے کے لئے
دیکھتے ہیں حالات کس کروٹ بیٹھتے ہیں


 

Extreme_Comments

Voter (50+ posts)
There is no doubt that all the main stream media is working for US & co. If one visits other news channels like RT etc, one gets a totally different perspective of the Syrian situation. Also, neutral analysis and articles can be read at www.informationclearinghouse.info...
Very Simple and basic fact which a deaf n dumb can understand is that... if USA, Israel, UK, Britain and allies are striving hard to destroy Syria n Regimen are not doing in the service of Islam ( rather it is shear animosity for Islam) and all the Muslim countries (KSA, Qatar, Turkey etc) or elements who are supporting all these countries to accomplish their mission are not doing any service to Islam rather its mere animosity to Islam.
 

adamfani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Saudis & Israel joint propaganda Mulla- ooay kahain tum aluminate banay kay chakar mein tu nahain-Har waqat Israel-USA aur Saudis ki chamchageri mein lagay rehtay ho....................................


Talat is the top journalist in credible reporting in Pakistan

ان نام نہاد مبصرین کا تجزیہ کیمیائی ہتھیاروں سے شروع ہوتا ہے
اور اسی پر ختم ہوتا ہے
اس میں بھی باسانی یہ کنی کاٹ لیتے ہیں کے یہ کیمیائی ہتھیار بھی باغیوں نے خود ہی اپنے علاقوں پر پھینکیں ہیں
اور یہ کنی بھی ان ممالک کی رپورٹ کی بنیاد پر جو خود اس معاملے میں باغیوں کے مخالف ہیں

طلعت شرم کرو
ذرا بشار کے مظالم پر بھی کچھ تحقیق کرو
ڈھائی سال سے کہاں تھے تم؟؟ کتنا لکھا تم نے بشار کے خلاف؟؟
کتنے ظلم آشکار کیے تم نے بشار کے؟؟
میڈیا سے تمہارا تعلق ہے ... ذرا بتاؤ کے دنیا بھر کا ١٠٠ فیصد میڈیا کیا جھوٹ بولتا ہے؟؟
کیا بشار دودھ میں دھلا ہوا ہے؟؟

اگر سارا میڈیا جھوٹ بولتا ہے تو تم بھی جھوٹے هو

اگر تم جیسے لوگ شامی مسلمانوں پر ہونے والے مظالم پر انکے ساتھ کھڑے ہوجاتے تو شاید صورتحال مختلف ہوتی...مگر تم لوگوں نے جو ایرانی چشمہ پہنا ہوا تھا آج اسکا نتیجہ ہے که امریکا مداخلت پر اتر آیا

تم لوگوں نے ایک ظالم کا ساتھ دیا تو آج دوسرا ظالم بھی پر پھیلا رہا ہے

مگر مجھے ایک فیصد بھی نہیں لگتا کے امریکا حملہ کریگا
اور اگر حملہ کیا بھی تو دو چار میزائل داغ دیگا دو چار دن تک عربوں کو خوش کرنے کے لئے
دیکھتے ہیں حالات کس کروٹ بیٹھتے ہیں


 

_Hope786

Senator (1k+ posts)
امریکا بھی ظالم اور بشار الاسد بھی ظالم ، مظلوم بیچارے ہر طرف سے رگھڑے جا رہے ہیں . کاش کے ہمارے روشن دماغوں نے ٢ سال پہلے معصوموں کے اندھے قتل و خون کے لئے آواز اٹھائی ہوتی تو آج ٢ لاکھ معصوم لقمہ اجل نا بنے ہوتے اور آج ہم اس پر تبصرہ نہ کر رہے ہوتے کے امریکا کا شام پر ہونیوالا حملہ ظلم ہے یا نہیں . بشار الاسد کو بہت پہلے ہی حکومت چھوڑ کر لوگوں کی راے کا اخترام کرنا چاہے تھا لیکن طاقت انسان کو اندھا کر دیتی ہے اور وہ اپنے آپ کو ماورائی قوتوں کا مالک سمجھنا شروع کر دیتا یہ بھول کر وہ فانی ہے اور طاقت اور اقتدار کبھی موت کے سامنے بند نہیں باندھ سکے. الله پاک شام کے لوگوں پر رحم کرے اور انکو بشار الاسد کے ظلم اور بیرونی طاقتوں کے شر سے محفوظ رکھے .
 

-JUSTICE-

Councller (250+ posts)
talat hussain ko iran nazar nhi aa rha jo bashar ko her taran ki support ker rha he aur ulta chemical weapons b mujahdeen ne chalay hain apne hi logon per l-a-a-n-a-t he
 
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Researcher

MPA (400+ posts)
It is interesting that whatever we have already made our mind about Syrian situation. We stick to our own set perspective irrespective of whoever does wrong.

Wake up from this Irani and Saudi crap!!
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
talat hussain k anader k shia ko apna baap iran nazar nhi aa rha jo bashar haaraami pillllay ko her taran ki support ker rha he aur ulta chemical weapons b mujahdeen ne chalay hain apne hi logon per l-a-a-n-a-t he tum per talat begaairat

یہ تو آپ کے اندر کو جہادی بول رہا ہے جو شیعہ کے بھی خلاف ہے، اور اہلسنت مسلمان کے بھی، بلکہ پوری انسانیت کے خلاف ہے اور پوری انسایت کے قتل کے در پر ہے۔

شام میں شیعہ سنی مسئلہ کا جھوٹا پروپیگنڈہ کیا جا رہا ہے۔ شام کی اہلسنت آبادی خود ان جہادیوں کے قتل و غارتگری و خونی خصلت سے تنگ ہے اور وہ اسد کو سپورٹ کر رہے ہیں۔ مگر یہ بات جہادیوں کا عربی میڈیا آپکو نہیں بتلاتا۔ اس لیے جہادیوں اور امریکیوں کی طرف سے زبردست کوشش کی جا رہی ہے کہ شام میں کبھی امن نہ ہو اور نہ اقوام متحدہ کی نگرانی میں انتخابات ہوں، جبکہ بشارت الاسد اقوام متحدہ کے نگرانی میں الیکشن چاہتا ہے۔



http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ern-propaganda

Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media

Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war


Suppose a respectable opinion poll found that most Syrians are in favour of Bashar al-Assad remaining as president, would that not be major news? Especially as the finding would go against the dominant narrative about the Syrian crisis, and the media considers the unexpected more newsworthy than the obvious.
Alas, not in every case. When coverage of an unfolding drama ceases to be fair and turns into a propaganda weapon, inconvenient facts get suppressed. So it is with the results of a recent YouGov Siraj poll on Syria commissioned by The Doha Debates, funded by the Qatar Foundation. Qatar's royal family has taken one of the most hawkish lines against Assad – the emir has just called for Arab troops to intervene – so it was good that The Doha Debates published the poll on its website. The pity is that it was ignored by almost all media outlets in every western country whose government has called for Assad to go.
The key finding was that while most Arabs outside Syria feel the president should resign, attitudes in the country are different. Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war – a spectre that is not theoretical as it is for those who live outside Syria's borders. What is less good news for the Assad regime is that the poll also found that half the Syrians who accept him staying in power believe he must usher in free elections in the near future. Assad claims he is about to do that, a point he has repeated in his latest speeches. But it is vital that he publishes the election law as soon as possible, permits political parties and makes a commitment to allow independent monitors to watch the poll.
Biased media coverage also continues to distort the Arab League's observer mission in Syria. When the league endorsed a no-fly zone in Libya last spring, there was high praise in the west for its action. Its decision to mediate in Syria was less welcome to western governments, and to high-profile Syrian opposition groups, who increasingly support a military rather than a political solution. So the league's move was promptly called into doubt by western leaders, and most western media echoed the line. Attacks were launched on the credentials of the mission's Sudanese chairman. Criticisms of the mission's performance by one of its 165 members were headlined. Demands were made that the mission pull out in favour of UN intervention.
The critics presumably feared that the Arab observers would report that armed violence is no longer confined to the regime's forces, and the image of peaceful protests brutally suppressed by army and police is false. Homs and a few other Syrian cities are becoming like Beirut in the 1980s or Sarajevo in the 1990s, with battles between militias raging across sectarian and ethnic fault lines.
As for foreign military intervention, it has already started. It is not following the Libyan pattern since Russia and China are furious at the west's deception in the security council last year. They will not accept a new United Nations resolution that allows any use of force. The model is an older one, going back to the era of the cold war, before "humanitarian intervention" and the "responsibility to protect" were developed and often misused. Remember Ronald Reagan's support for the Contras, whom he armed and trained to try to topple Nicaragua's Sandinistas from bases in Honduras? For Honduras read Turkey, the safe haven where the so-called Free Syrian Army has set up.
Here too western media silence is dramatic. No reporters have followed up on a significant recent article by Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer who now writes for the American Conservative – a magazine that criticises the American military-industrial complex from a non-neocon position on the lines of Ron Paul, who came second in last week's New Hampshire Republican primary. Giraldi states that Turkey, a Nato member, has become Washington's proxy and that unmarked Nato warplanes have been arriving at Iskenderum, near the Syrian border, delivering Libyan volunteers and weapons seized from the late Muammar Gaddafi's arsenal. "French and British special forces trainers are on the ground," he writes, "assisting the Syrian rebels, while the CIA and US Spec Ops are providing communications equipment and intelligence to assist the rebel cause, enabling the fighters to avoid concentrations of Syrian soldiers …"
As the danger of full-scale war increases, Arab League foreign ministers are preparing to meet in Cairo this weekend to discuss the future of their Syrian mission. No doubt there will be western media reports highlighting remarks by those ministers who feel the mission has "lost credibility", "been duped by the regime" or "failed to stop the violence". Counter-arguments will be played down or suppressed.
In spite of the provocations from all sides the league should stand its ground. Its mission in Syria has seen peaceful demonstrations both for and against the regime. It has witnessed, and in some cases suffered from, violence by opposing forces. But it has not yet had enough time or a large enough team to talk to a comprehensive range of Syrian actors and then come up with a clear set of recommendations. Above all, it has not even started to fulfil that part of its mandate requiring it to help produce a dialogue between the regime and its critics. The mission needs to stay in Syria and not be bullied out.


 

The Pakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
I dnt know why China is silent..China should take stand along with Russia cause this will slaughter NATO and US aims..
 

پاکستانی

Councller (250+ posts)

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ern-propaganda

Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media

Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war


Suppose a respectable opinion poll found that most Syrians are in favour of Bashar al-Assad remaining as president, would that not be major news? Especially as the finding would go against the dominant narrative about the Syrian crisis, and the media considers the unexpected more newsworthy than the obvious.
Alas, not in every case. When coverage of an unfolding drama ceases to be fair and turns into a propaganda weapon, inconvenient facts get suppressed. So it is with the results of a recent YouGov Siraj poll on Syria commissioned by The Doha Debates, funded by the Qatar Foundation. Qatar's royal family has taken one of the most hawkish lines against Assad – the emir has just called for Arab troops to intervene – so it was good that The Doha Debates published the poll on its website. The pity is that it was ignored by almost all media outlets in every western country whose government has called for Assad to go.
The key finding was that while most Arabs outside Syria feel the president should resign, attitudes in the country are different. Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war – a spectre that is not theoretical as it is for those who live outside Syria's borders. What is less good news for the Assad regime is that the poll also found that half the Syrians who accept him staying in power believe he must usher in free elections in the near future. Assad claims he is about to do that, a point he has repeated in his latest speeches. But it is vital that he publishes the election law as soon as possible, permits political parties and makes a commitment to allow independent monitors to watch the poll.
Biased media coverage also continues to distort the Arab League's observer mission in Syria. When the league endorsed a no-fly zone in Libya last spring, there was high praise in the west for its action. Its decision to mediate in Syria was less welcome to western governments, and to high-profile Syrian opposition groups, who increasingly support a military rather than a political solution. So the league's move was promptly called into doubt by western leaders, and most western media echoed the line. Attacks were launched on the credentials of the mission's Sudanese chairman. Criticisms of the mission's performance by one of its 165 members were headlined. Demands were made that the mission pull out in favour of UN intervention.
The critics presumably feared that the Arab observers would report that armed violence is no longer confined to the regime's forces, and the image of peaceful protests brutally suppressed by army and police is false. Homs and a few other Syrian cities are becoming like Beirut in the 1980s or Sarajevo in the 1990s, with battles between militias raging across sectarian and ethnic fault lines.
As for foreign military intervention, it has already started. It is not following the Libyan pattern since Russia and China are furious at the west's deception in the security council last year. They will not accept a new United Nations resolution that allows any use of force. The model is an older one, going back to the era of the cold war, before "humanitarian intervention" and the "responsibility to protect" were developed and often misused. Remember Ronald Reagan's support for the Contras, whom he armed and trained to try to topple Nicaragua's Sandinistas from bases in Honduras? For Honduras read Turkey, the safe haven where the so-called Free Syrian Army has set up.
Here too western media silence is dramatic. No reporters have followed up on a significant recent article by Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer who now writes for the American Conservative – a magazine that criticises the American military-industrial complex from a non-neocon position on the lines of Ron Paul, who came second in last week's New Hampshire Republican primary. Giraldi states that Turkey, a Nato member, has become Washington's proxy and that unmarked Nato warplanes have been arriving at Iskenderum, near the Syrian border, delivering Libyan volunteers and weapons seized from the late Muammar Gaddafi's arsenal. "French and British special forces trainers are on the ground," he writes, "assisting the Syrian rebels, while the CIA and US Spec Ops are providing communications equipment and intelligence to assist the rebel cause, enabling the fighters to avoid concentrations of Syrian soldiers …"
As the danger of full-scale war increases, Arab League foreign ministers are preparing to meet in Cairo this weekend to discuss the future of their Syrian mission. No doubt there will be western media reports highlighting remarks by those ministers who feel the mission has "lost credibility", "been duped by the regime" or "failed to stop the violence". Counter-arguments will be played down or suppressed.
In spite of the provocations from all sides the league should stand its ground. Its mission in Syria has seen peaceful demonstrations both for and against the regime. It has witnessed, and in some cases suffered from, violence by opposing forces. But it has not yet had enough time or a large enough team to talk to a comprehensive range of Syrian actors and then come up with a clear set of recommendations. Above all, it has not even started to fulfil that part of its mandate requiring it to help produce a dialogue between the regime and its critics. The mission needs to stay in Syria and not be bullied out.


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mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یہ جو آپنے گارجین کا آرٹیکل پوسٹ کیا ہے یہ برطانوی اخبار ہے جو پروپگنڈہ بھیلانے کا ماہر ہے۔

نہیں یہ خبر مستند ہے اور یہ پول قطر کے ادارے نے کروائے تھے جسے پوری دنیا کے اخبارات نے نقل کیا تھا۔ (اوپر والے لنک میں آپ کو قطر ڈیبیٹ کا لنک مل جائے گا جو کہ یہ ہے

http://www.thedohadebates.com/news/item/index.asp?n=14312


آپ دیکھ سکتے ہیں کہ اسد حکومت تو تیار ہے کہ اقوام متحدہ کی زیرنگرانی الیکشن منعقد کروائے جائیں۔ مگر امریکہ، عرب ممالک اور اپوزیشن ہرگز تیار نہیں کہ مذاکرات کی میز پر آ کر الیکشن کی حامی بھریں۔ وہ ہر صورت الیکشن کا انعقاد روکنا چاہتے ہیں کیونکہ ناممکن ہے کہ اپوزیشن اسد کو الیکشن میں شکست دے سکے۔

اپوزیشن کئی حصوں میں تقسیم ہے۔ جہادی القاعدہ سے لیکر ایف ایس اے، اور نیشنلسٹ اور کمیونسٹ وغیرہ۔ ناممکن ہے ہے کہ ان مین سے کوئی بھی صدارتی الیکشنز میں اسد کو شکست دے سکے۔



آپ مزید دیکھ سکتے ہیں کہ اگر عوام میں جڑیں نہ ہوں تو امریکا بھی غیر ممالک میں اپنی تمام تر ٹیکنالوجی کے باوجود قدم نہیں جما پایا۔

شام میں اگر اہلسنت اسد کے ساتھ نہ ہوتے تو ناممکن تھا کہ اسد 2 سال سے زائد عرصے تک ان سے لڑ پاتا (اقلیتیں 20 سے شاید زائد نہیں)، جبکہ پوری دنیا سے جہادیوں کو مغربی ممالک یہان بھیج رہے ہیں، عرب ممالک اربوں بلین ڈالرز جہادیوں پر خرچ کر رہے ہیں۔۔۔ مگر اس سب کے باوجود اسد جما ہوا ہے اور الٹا اسے جہادیوں پر فتح ملنی شروع ہو گئی ہے۔

ایران پر امریکہ نے عالمی پابندیاں لگائی ہوئی ہیں جن میں روس اور چین بھی شامل ہیں اور ایران کسی بھی ملک کو اسلحہ فراہم نہیں کر سکتا۔ چنانچہ ہوائی جہازوں کے ذریعے ایران کچھ اسلحہ بھیج پائے تو بھیج پائے، وگرنہ مغربی ممالک اور انکے سیٹیلائیٹ اور جاسوس ہر طرف سرگرم ہیں۔

روس کا کردار دہرا ہے۔ شام نے جس اسلحہ کے لیے سالوں پہلے قیمت ادا کی تھی وہ تک ابھی تک اسے نہیں مل سکے ہیں۔


۔۔۔۔۔۔ اور جہاں تک آپکی پیشکردہ ویڈیو کا تعلق ہے، تو اللہ غارت کرے ظالموں کو، چاہے وہ کسی قوم یا فرقے سے تعلق رکھتے ہوں۔ لیکن مجھے امید ہے کہ آپ انصاف کریں گے اور دوسری طرف کے مظالم بھی دیکھیں گے جو کہ "سینکڑوں" گنا زیادہ ہیں۔
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Saudis & Israel joint propaganda Mulla- ooay kahain tum aluminate banay kay chakar mein tu nahain-Har waqat Israel-USA aur Saudis ki chamchageri mein lagay rehtay ho....................................


Talat is the top journalist in credible reporting in Pakistan

جی ہاں صف اول کا جرنسلٹ کیوں نا ہوگا
ایرانی لائن پر بیتٹنگ جو کر رہا ہے
اسکی جگہ کالا کتا بھی ہوگا تو وہ حلال اور پاک ہوجائیگا..جیسے بشار الاسد
نصیری ہے پر تم لوگوں کو عزیز ہے
 

insaan

MPA (400+ posts)
@such bolo
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