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[khan_sultan]

میرا ورڈکٹ بھی تو لے لو ...آخر اتنی دیر سے دونوں طرف کے دلائل سنیں ہیں .

Nadan sahiba aap apna nuqta nazar zar9r daen per sirf itna khna chaho9n ga key munhey ya kisi shia ko kis key jo bhi kalima parhta ho jesa bhi parhey koi aetraaz naheen hai lekin jub koi dosrey per aetraaz kerey to phir jawab aata hoo to dey deja chahey hai

 

[drkhan22]

Tamam Shia hazrat se phir ik moadbana guzarish hay .

Quran se '' ALI un WaliULLAH'' dikha den. 114 soora hen, 30 siparay hen or 6666 ayat hen, 7 manzlen hen. O koi ik ayat to ho jo khulay lafzon men ilaan karay, dankay kee chot. ALI aapkay imama awal hen or ik ayat aapko nahee miltee unk eliye jo asman ke tara saf ho or paani ke tara shaffaf ho. Or smajhne men bhee asaan ho ke jis ko ghseetne kee or ulat palat kerne kee zarooret na ho.

 

[GeoG]

میرا ورڈکٹ بھی تو لے لو ...آخر اتنی دیر سے دونوں طرف کے دلائل سنیں ہیں .

We know that
Just follow Quran noting else
that is admirable for sure

but sooner or later you would want to consult Bukhari or other book for some more explanaitons

Tell us if it is different than what written above and apologies in advance ....

 

[نادان]

اب یہ بحث کہیں نہیں جا رہی ...ایک جگہ سٹک ہو گئی ہے ..میری رائے میں دونوں اپنی جگہ ضد پر اڑے ہیں ..کوئی سیکھنے اور سمجھنے کو تیار نہیں ..ایک دوسرے کو سوال داغ کر بھاگنے میں عافیت سمجھ رہے ہیں ..اس لئے میری طرف سے یہ کیس کلوز کیا جاتا ہے ...یہ میری آخری پوسٹ ہے ..الله ہم سب کو دین سمجھنے کی توفیق دے اور ہمارے لئے آسانیاں پیدا کرے ...آمین

 

[GeoG]

As you keep insisting that I am your Baba Jee, I have to respond
Baita I don't know mairay Kon Say Mattah Say Tairi Waladat Hui
Anyway I must say its about time
to say Kalma our prophet pbuh told us not what you invented

Dekha roney lagey naah is umar main main tumari trah nechey naheen giroon gaa sirf yhi khoon gaa key merey video munazarey wali ka rad ker doo bus
Wesey main ney baba ji kha hai jo kherat mangta hai sawalon ii shakal main merey haba ji jheen kha hai;)[/QUOTE]


Lolz,
First answer in your words and start crying
read your own post and come back ...

 

[GeoG]

اب یہ بحث کہیں نہیں جا رہی ...ایک جگہ سٹک ہو گئی ہے ..میری رائے میں دونوں اپنی جگہ ضد پر اڑے ہیں ..کوئی سیکھنے اور سمجھنے کو تیار نہیں ..ایک دوسرے کو سوال داغ کر بھاگنے میں عافیت سمجھ رہے ہیں ..اس لئے میری طرف سے یہ کیس کلوز کیا جاتا ہے ...یہ میری آخری پوسٹ ہے ..الله ہم سب کو دین سمجھنے کی توفیق دے اور ہمارے لئے آسانیاں پیدا کرے ...آمین

Stuck at One Point

Hellooooo, they can not even prove their Kalma
first point of entry into religion

Nimaz, Hajj, Zakat is to follow ...

 

[khan_sultan]

Dekha roney lagey naah is umar main main tumari trah nechey naheen giroon gaa sirf yhi khoon gaa key merey video munazarey wali ka rad ker doo bus
Wesey main ney baba ji kha hai jo kherat mangta hai sawalon ii shakal main merey haba ji jheen kha hai;)

Lolz,
First answer in your words and start crying
read your own post and come back ...[/QUOTE]

Akhri baar ohir poch raha hoon key is video ka koi rad haintumarey paas?
Naheen to lagey rahoo main itna vela naheen hoon tumari trah

 

[نادان]

We know that
Just follow Quran noting else
that is admirable for sure

but sooner or later you would want to consult Bukhari or other book for some more explanaitons

Tell us if it is different than what written above and apologies in advance ....

:lol:

مختلف ہے

 

[drkhan22]

Shia hazrat jitna erhi choti ka zor laga len. They can never produce a single unequivocal ayat from Quran which announces ALI wilayat. Un ke naseeb hee itne burray hen inko Ayaat ko ghassetna perhta hay apni ulti seedhi baton ko sabit kerne keliye. Phir dunia jahan kee gher mustanad or jhoti or zaeef riawayat ka sahara lene per majboor ho jate hen. Kabhi kitab Tareek Tabari to kabhi Durr e mansoor ka sahara. Quran se hamesha bhagen gay. Jo firqa apna Qalima Quran se sabit na ker sake uss ka kia deen ho ga.



Chal vai dr toon apna kalima kidhar likha hai Quraan main sabit kerdey
Aur yeh bhi sabit ker dey lafz deobandi wahabi ahlhades Quraan ki kisi ayat sai?main bhi deo bandi ho jaaon gaa

Hazret Sultan saab. Mera sawal aapko samjh nahee aya ya men ne mushkil bayan kia hya ???? I asked very simple question. Tell me one un equivocal ayat in Quran with its 1000s of ayats and over 100 soorah where ALLAH say clearly That '' ALI un waliULLAH''. Ager Quran men nahee milta to phir dhandora peetna chor den apne kalmay ka. Ager Quran se ALI RA ki wialayt hee sabit nahee ho sak rahee aap se ke her ayat ko ghaseeet ghseeet ker apna mudda sabit ker rahe hen to ALLAH hee hafiz hay aapkay deen ka

 

[Encounter]

لڑائی لڑائی معاف کرو ،رمضان ہے اللہ کا گھر صاف کرو
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[GeoG]

Lolz,
First answer in your words and start crying
read your own post and come back ...

Akhri baar ohir poch raha hoon key is video ka koi rad haintumarey paas?
Naheen to lagey rahoo main itna vela naheen hoon tumari trah[/QUOTE]

why, going to do suicide after shameful exit here
That Topi Drama Moulvi, thousands like available on Youtube

prove it from Quran
One time just One Time where Ali un Wali Ullah is written in Quran
I am not saying full Shia Kalma, just Ali un Wali Ullah ....

 

[GeoG]

:lol:

مختلف ہے

Good then share if wish but your prerogative ..

 

[khan_sultan]

Hazret Sultan saab. Mera sawal aapko samjh nahee aya ya men ne mushkil bayan kia hya ???? I asked very simple question. Tell me one un equivocal ayat in Quran with its 1000s of ayats and over 100 soorah where ALLAH say clearly That '' ALI un waliULLAH''. Ager Quran men nahee milta to phir dhandora peetna chor den apne kalmay ka. Ager Quran se ALI RA ki wialayt hee sabit nahee ho sak rahee aap se ke her ayat ko ghaseeet ghseeet ker apna mudda sabit ker rahe hen to ALLAH hee hafiz hay aapkay deen ka

Dr saab im also asking you very much simple thing which you dont want to understand now again im asking you one more time
Where in any ayat kalima lailaha illalah Mohamaad dur rasool lillah a
And my 2nd question is also sime show me in Any Ayat ur religion deobandi ahlhadees wahabi etc in any ayat ok make it more simple showm me any ayat abot deobandi mazhab ?
I will become deobandi rightaway I will not runaway like Ali shair hyderi

 

[نادان]

Good then share if wish but your prerogative ..

read post # 468 please

:)

 

[khan_sultan]

Akhri baar ohir poch raha hoon key is video ka koi rad haintumarey paas?
Naheen to lagey rahoo main itna vela naheen hoon tumari trah

why, going to do suicide after shameful exit here
That Topi Drama Moulvi, thousands like available on Youtube

prove it from Quran
One time just One Time where Ali un Wali Ullah is written in Quran
I am not saying full Shia Kalma, just Ali un Wali Ullah ....[/QUOTE]

You have no knowledge about about ur dharam so you are here only to kill ur time i prove it from ur books now its ur turn to orove ur kalima in aNy ayat
And onother question very simple show me word deobandi in any Ayat i will hecome deobandi here

 

[GeoG]

read post # 468 please

:)

Sorry I asked reading no 463

 

[drkhan22]

Lo Quran se mera Kalima dekh lo ......

LA ILA HA

ILLALLAH

Muhammad RasoolULLAH wa Khatimuneebiyyeen.



Abh tamam shia ko dawat hay ke wo apna izaafi kalima isi Quran se isis tara saabit karen. Or barai meherbani ALLAZEENA AAMINOO ko ALI RA per chispaan na karen. ALI ka nam itna burra nahee tha ke ALLAH ko mohmineen (ALLAHZEENA AAAMINOO) ka sahara lena parhta. Come up with some thing concrete guys. Or dnt mess around. Your Kalima is fake. Your Aqeeda imamat is fake. Ur whole religion is a deception and has nothing to do with Quran and Rasool SAW.

 

[khan_sultan]

اب یہ بحث کہیں نہیں جا رہی ...ایک جگہ سٹک ہو گئی ہے ..میری رائے میں دونوں اپنی جگہ ضد پر اڑے ہیں ..کوئی سیکھنے اور سمجھنے کو تیار نہیں ..ایک دوسرے کو سوال داغ کر بھاگنے میں عافیت سمجھ رہے ہیں ..اس لئے میری طرف سے یہ کیس کلوز کیا جاتا ہے ...یہ میری آخری پوسٹ ہے ..الله ہم سب کو دین سمجھنے کی توفیق دے اور ہمارے لئے آسانیاں پیدا کرے ...آمین

Nadan ji this is not true i answer him with refernce with the help of video so now ye has to reply me that this book refernce is fake and then he has to prove and show me that book here i dont want to stuck here want to go for another topic beacause i already prove and he have no answer you dont se here after my that video he just oost irrevelent video here ? It means game is over he have nothing in his pocket to show you me or other forums member's

 

[GeoG]

why, going to do suicide after shameful exit here
That Topi Drama Moulvi, thousands like available on Youtube

prove it from Quran
One time just One Time where Ali un Wali Ullah is written in Quran
I am not saying full Shia Kalma, just Ali un Wali Ullah ....

You have no inowldge about about ur dharam sonyou are here only to k8ll ur time i prove it from ur books now its ur turn t9 orove ur kalima 8n Ny ayat
And onother question very simple show me word deobandi in any Ayat i will hecome deobandi here[/QUOTE]




Yes you have so much knowledge that you can not justify your concoction

We can see the wisdom from your question
show me Deobandi from Quran, wow
So Deobandi is as important as your Kalima
Lakh Di La.nat,
Is Shia written anywhere in Quran?

Words
La Ilaha IllAllah

and then

Muhammadur Rasulullah

so show Ali un Wali Ullah
just one place

Don't just run away...

 

[drkhan22]

Dr saab im also asking you very much simple thing which you dont want to understand now again im asking you one more time
Where in any ayat kalima lailaha illalah Mohamaad dur rasool lillah a
And my 2nd question is also sime show me in Any Ayat ur religion deobandi ahlhadees wahabi etc in any ayat ok make it more simple showm me any ayat abot deobandi mazhab ?
I will become deobandi rightaway I will not runaway like Ali shair hyderi

You don't have to become Deobandi, Brelvi or Ahl e Hadith. You just believe in kalima of Quran and stop believing in fake ideas of imamat and wialayt. It has no Quran basis. Imam Jaffer says in Assol Kafi'' Imam ke marfat se inkar ALLAH or us ke Rasool se inkar hay''. Abh imam ke marfat ager ALLAH or Rasool ke marfat ke barabar hay to aap kay pas quran se ik nahee sekron ayat honi chayyen. Aap ko ik nahee mil rahee. Geo G bhai bee kitnee der se pooch rahen hen. Men pooch poch thak gaya hoon. Ager nahee hay to bol den. Or tasleem karen Wailayat or imamat ka Quran se koi tallauq nahee or Imam Jaffer Sadiq se manqool her qol jhoota or fareb per mabni hay asool kafi men. Jo islam ka bunyadi aqeeda Quran se sabit nahee uss ko koi wajood nahee.