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bik74

Councller (250+ posts)
Asim munir and his army generals have gone too far, but there is no one to checkmate them and punish them.

I also worry that such severe internal fighting and hate with each other will benefit india,israel who want to see Pakistan destroyed and on the other hand side justice should be established in pakistan and if justice is established then top army leaders along with police and burecates heads will roll. PTI leadership is also to be blamed for current situation they used NAB on politicians without evidence or trial in most cases while generals and burecreats were free. And if see big picture whole nation is culprit and hence people should be very worried if things are heading towards more conflict, more hate and anger.
Yes.. apparently putting billions of Rs through your chaprasi is a legit transaction. Why should anyone be asked to provide evidence of their source of funds. There is no such thing as corruption !
The only real mistake PTI, Imran Khan and half the country has done, was to thnk that army was sincere to the country. It never was sincere to the country. PTI should have seen the obvious red flags.
 

sensible

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Asim munir and his army generals have gone too far, but there is no one to checkmate them and punish them.

I also worry that such severe internal fighting and hate with each other will benefit india,israel who want to see Pakistan destroyed and on the other hand side justice should be established in pakistan and if justice is established then top army leaders along with police and burecates heads will roll. PTI leadership is also to be blamed for current situation they used NAB on politicians without evidence or trial in most cases while generals and burecreats were free. And if see big picture whole nation is culprit and hence people should be very worried if things are heading towards more conflict, more hate and anger.
آج کا المیہ یہ ہے کہ لوگ جاننے اور سمجھنے میں ریاستی رفتار سے تیز ہیں ۔اور وہ جان رہے ہیں کہ ان کے ساتھ اسرائیل اور انڈیا کو مسلط کرنے کی جنگ وہ نہیں کر رہے ان کی طرف سے پاکستان کی فوج پولیس عدالتیں اور قانون نافذ کرنے والےپاکستانی ادارے لڑ رہے ہیں تو ان کے پاس غصے اور نفرت کا حق ہے جو آج تک صدیوں تک قوموں کو غلام رکھنے والے آقا اپنی تمام تر طاقت کے باوجود چھین نہیں سکے۔ان سے صرف ان کی جان مال ہی چھین سکے آج تک
 

MSUMAIRZ

MPA (400+ posts)
Ok so i agree that SS was doing this laundering thing and he should be punished swiftly, but my point is why then only politicians, during imran's tenure i daily launched complaints to secretary of revenue in Kpk and told him that revenue people are taking money daily from people if you go to tehsil registry office. But complete silence not a sinlgle action. IK knew that state machinery i.e police, bureaucracy are involved in these things, IK kepts sweet tounge people who praised IK and never gave him good advice and all corrupt secretaries of different department were having a free hand, from bottom to top system was corrupt and IK was playing cop with SS and MS, while system was preparing to overthrow him, was IK blind ? or was he trusting the Bajwa who was head of system machinery. SO thats why I blame IK and PTI, i guarantee you and give you my word that if today IK and PTI comes again we will see no change in system machinery, we will only see political sword fighting and same story again.

Whole judiciary, police, army, bureaucracy, all the state machinery is a beast of evils and corrupt to core, you cannot do any thing, believe me, there is no hope. PTI and IK should have known this, and if they did not, they are to be blamed and they are reaping their actions.
IK was a PM not a DICTATOR and the laws in place are not strong to punish the corrupt. The Judicial System is compromised. IK needed 2/3rd Majority to enact stronger laws.
 

bik74

Councller (250+ posts)
Ok so i agree that SS was doing this laundering thing and he should be punished swiftly, but my point is why then only politicians, during imran's tenure i daily launched complaints to secretary of revenue in Kpk and told him that revenue people are taking money daily from people if you go to tehsil registry office. But complete silence not a sinlgle action. IK knew that state machinery i.e police, bureaucracy are involved in these things, IK kepts sweet tounge people who praised IK and never gave him good advice and all corrupt secretaries of different department were having a free hand, from bottom to top system was corrupt and IK was playing cop with SS and MS, while system was preparing to overthrow him, was IK blind ? or was he trusting the Bajwa who was head of system machinery. SO thats why I blame IK and PTI, i guarantee you and give you my word that if today IK and PTI comes again we will see no change in system machinery, we will only see political sword fighting and same story again.

Whole judiciary, police, army, bureaucracy, all the state machinery is a beast of evils and corrupt to core, you cannot do any thing, believe me, there is no hope. PTI and IK should have known this, and if they did not, they are to be blamed and they are reaping their actions.
Again you are not well informed and have a short memory.
IK's right hand man was JKT. IK did not save him when NAB went after him.
IK did not save Aleem Khan when NAB went after him.
All the above added to the cause of him loosing his Government.
What else do you want from IK?
Please do not let Liffafa media fool you.

If IK comes to power, it will be a mistake if he uses the same police (or bureaucracy). He should create a completely new department and ultimately replace entire police, ATC, Rangers etc... by that department. Easier said then done.
His mistake remains the same... trusting the army who controls everythng.
 

bik74

Councller (250+ posts)
I am fully informed and also do not have a short memory, neither i am influenced by any media. Lets disagree on that and then agree that we hope PTI agains comes to power ( things can change suddenly ) , and then we shall see if system is changed. I think it will be not, you thing it will be, time will tell.
No.. i dont think system will change... if PTI comes to power... i do not know if they will learn from prior mistakes..... select right people... i simply do not know.
But i do know they will try ....
 

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