Lubnakhan
Minister (2k+ posts)
Waisey tu ham sab sey burey hein, lakin intelligence failure ye amreeka ka hy!!ڈاکٹر اسرار نے طالبان کو خبردار نہ کیا کہ لاکھوں کی تعداد میں مارے جاؤ گے اور پھر آخر میں امریکا سے ماہدہ ہی کرنا پڑے گا ؟
Waisey tu ham sab sey burey hein, lakin intelligence failure ye amreeka ka hy!!ڈاکٹر اسرار نے طالبان کو خبردار نہ کیا کہ لاکھوں کی تعداد میں مارے جاؤ گے اور پھر آخر میں امریکا سے ماہدہ ہی کرنا پڑے گا ؟
Govt and army should talk to baluchs. Any internal fight is disastrous for Pakistan. Sometimes our govt and army can't control everything. E.g Bao G and Ms. Qatri should be behind bars for ages and all the ill gotten money should be recovered. Our army has made mistakes but we should never go against our army, rather we should point out if they go wrong. It's a slow process and we have come a long way to look back on our mistakes. But who knows if we will have any marasi general like Musharraf, we will head back to square 1.
Never too late to fix mistakesNo I was referring to TTP, if state's operation caused ttp, how come further aggressions and operations are justified. How wiping out ttp is justifiable if establishment's operation created them.
Would any other Leader have done anything different in situation like that?
Look at what US did to Iraq and Afghanistan. What makes you think that they would ve spared Pakis
It is hard to say what would have been the response of any other leader. But we know for fact that this decision of surrendering meekly to USA wish brought disaster to Pakistan and this nation is still bearing the consequences of that decision two decades later while all those army generals who were involved with this decision making with Musharraf are well off and sitting pretty in foreign land .Would any other Leader have done anything different in situation like that?
Look at what US did to Iraq and Afghanistan. What makes you think that they would ve spared Pakistan?
No not really hard to say because since Pakistan has been created ALL our military and “Democratic leaders” have always abided to the Americans and west. Be it Afghan Jihad against soviets, Providing army basis and road, ports, air bases like infrastructure to americans.It is hard to say what would have been the response of any other leader. But we know for fact that this decision of surrendering meekly to USA wish brought disaster to Pakistan and this nation is still bearing the consequences of that decision two decades later while all those army generals who were involved with this decision making with Musharraf are well off and sitting pretty in foreign land .
By reading the books of condoleza Rice and other it is apparent that this chuddi commando gave in more than what the American regime was expecting and even that in a single day phone call.
We need a system !! We donot need personalities!!No not really hard to say because since Pakistan has been created ALL our military and “Democratic leaders” have always abided to the Americans and west. Be it Afghan Jihad against soviets, Providing army basis and road, ports, air bases like infrastructure to americans.
What Musharaf did differently is that he spent the american $$$ on aam awam. Look at the progress in everything during his time and compare that with any other era.
It really is Ehsan faramoshi to malign him now after all what he did for the country.
You got to be kidding me if you tell me he spent money on Awam. Yeah, he spent money and lots of it on bhands and drinks and marasi for sure. I hope you realize that not even a penny of all that money spent on the infrastructure or on power sector at all.No not really hard to say because since Pakistan has been created ALL our military and “Democratic leaders” have always abided to the Americans and west. Be it Afghan Jihad against soviets, Providing army basis and road, ports, air bases like infrastructure to americans.
What Musharaf did differently is that he spent the american $$$ on aam awam. Look at the progress in everything during his time and compare that with any other era.
It really is Ehsan faramoshi to malign him now after all what he did for the country.
Sorry to say but you sound delusional.You got to be kidding me if you tell me he spent money on Awam. Yeah, he spent money and lots of it on bhands and drinks and marasi for sure. I hope you realize that not even a penny of all that money spent on the infrastructure or on power sector at all.
You are absolutely wrong to compare Pakisatn to Iraq or others in the region. Pakistan never invaded any Kuwait in the neighbours, neither supported any of the 911 criminals from its land. The fact of he matter is that this chuddi commander had two things on mind at that time. Try to prolong his ilegitamate rule and also seek the legitimacy for his governance. He found that opportunity after 911 and grab it with his both balls . It is however a different story that he end up chopping his own balls and balls of 220 million people in process.
As far as any other leader is concerned, I can get you every penny in a dollar, if IK had the power in his hands ,he could have told them where to go and f off. Guessing now and saying that any other leader would have done the same is non sense.
Lol. My friend have a very good evening . I hope we can carry on our debate .it's not easy try to 2nd guess the past. What we have,that's what we got.Sorry to say but you sound delusional.
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