آزادی راے سے متعلق فرنسیسی پوپ کا انتباہ

[Night_Hawk]

اظہار رائے کی آزادی کو کسی کی توہین کے لئے استعمال نہ کیا جائے، پوپ فرانسس

ہر انسان کو کسی کی توہین اور تشدد کئے بغیر اپنےعقائد کے مطابق زندگی گزارنے کا حق حاصل ہے۔، پوپ فرانسس ۔ فوٹو فائل


منیلا: عیسائیوں کے روحانی پیشوا پوپ فرانسس نے کہا ہے کہ لوگوں کو نہ تو کسی دوسرے کے عقائد کی توہین اور نہ ہی مذہب کے نام پر کسی کو قتل کرنا چاہئے۔
سری لنکا سے فلپائن کے دارلحکومت منیلا پہنچنے سے قبل طیارے میں میڈیا سے گفتگو میں پوپ فرانسس کاکہنا تھا کہ کوئی بھی شخص اپنے مذہب کے نام پر جنگ نہیں کرسکتا کیونکہ مذہب کے نام پر قتل کرنا گمراہی ہے۔ ان کا کہنا تھاکہ انہوں نے ہمیشہ اظہار رائے کی آزادی کی حمایت کی لیکن ایسی آزادی کی لازمی طور پر کچھ حدود ہونی چاہئے، کوئی بھی شخص ایسا کام نہیں کر سکتا جس سے کوئی دوسرا شخص اشتعال میں آجائے، نہ ہی دوسرے کے عقائد کی توہین کی جائے اور نہ ہی اسے مذاق بنایا جاسکتا ہے۔ ایک سوال کے جواب میں ان کا کہنا تھا کہ ہر ایک کو آزادی حاصل ہے لیکن اس کےساتھ اس کی کچھ ذمہ داریاں بھی ہیں لہذا کسی بھی قسم کی آزادی کو اس طرح استعمال کیا جائے کہ وہ کسی کی تضحیک کا باعث نہ بنے بلکہ انسانیت کا احترام مد نظر رکھا جائے۔



پوپ فرانسس کا کہنا تھا کہ اگر کوئی میری ماں کے خلاف گندی زبان استعمال کرتا ہے تو اسے بھی تھپڑ کھانے کے لئے تیار رہنا چاہئے اسی طرح ہر انسان کو کسی کی توہین اور تشدد کئے بغیر اپنےعقائد کے مطابق زندگی گزارنے کا حق حاصل ہے۔


http://www.express.pk/story/318624/​

 

[moazzamniaz]

۔ طالبانی جہالت کی بدولت لگے ہوے میلے میں بہتی گنگا میں ہاتھ دھونے کیلیے عیسائی ملا بھی آن پہنچا. خوف اور دہشت کے عالمی سوداگر

 

[Resonant]

پوپ نے بہت اچھی بات کہی ہے۔۔۔

 

[Night_Hawk]

[h=1]Pope says 'cannot insult' other people's religion[/h] By AFP
Published: January 15, 2015

Pope Francis speaks to the press aboard a plane during his trip to the Philippines on January 15, 2015. PHOTO: AFP



MANILA: Pope Francis on Thursday condemned any killing in God’s name, but also insisted there were limits to freedom of speech and said other people’s religion could not be insulted or mocked.

The pope made the comments in relation to attacks by gunmen on the offices of French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo last week in which 12 people died.

“To kill in the name of God is an absurdity,” the pope told reporters aboard a plane travelling from Sri Lanka to the Philippines.



But the 78-year-old pontiff also said “each religion has its dignity” and “there are limits”.

“You cannot provoke, you cannot insult other people’s faith, you cannot mock it,” the pontiff said.
“Freedom of speech is a right and a duty that must be displayed without offending.”



The Charlie Hebdo assault on January 7 was followed two days later by an attack on a kosher supermarket in Paris by a gunman claiming to have coordinated his actions with the two brothers who attacked the magazine.
In all, 17 people died over three days in the bloodiest attacks in France in half a century, which ended when commando units stormed two hostage sieges and killed all three gunmen.



The brothers, Said and Cherif Kouachi, attacked the Charlie Hebdo staff because they were outraged over the magazine’s repeated depictions of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).
Al Qaeda then claimed it directed the men to carry out the killings, saying it was “vengeance” for the magazine’s cartoons of the prophet.



The magazine this week published a “survivors” issue featuring an image of the prophet, which sold out Wednesday before more copies of an eventual print run of five million hit newsstands.
The cartoon depicts the prophet holding a sign reading “Je suis Charlie” (I am Charlie), the slogan that has become a global rallying cry for those expressing sympathy for the victims and support for freedom of speech.
The cover of the new Charlie Hebdo has sparked fresh controversy and protests in some parts of the Muslim world.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/822219/pope-says-cannot-insult-other-peoples-religion/

 

[gorgias]

پوپ فرانسس کا کہنا تھا کہ اگر کوئی میری ماں کے خلاف گندی زبان استعمال کرتا ہے تو اسے بھی تھپڑ کھانے کے لئے تیار رہنا چاہئے اسی طرح ہر انسان کو کسی کی توہین اور تشدد کئے بغیر اپنےعقائد کے مطابق زندگی گزارنے کا حق حاصل ہے۔

یہی اصل بات ہے ۔سارا معاملہ باہمی احترام ہی کی وجہ سے خوش اسلوبی سے چلے گا۔ ورنہ یہی قتل و غارت گری کا بازار تا قیامت گرم رہے گا۔

 

[thinking]

He is saying right....Why our Mullah silent
on the killings of ours children?Why they dont call
TTP as Khawarij and Shaitan??

 

[Night_Hawk]

Pope on Charlie Hebdo: There are limits to free expression

AP
Updated about 3 hours ago



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ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE: Pope Francis said on Thursday there are limits to freedom of expression, especially when it insults or ridicules someone's faith.
Francis spoke about the Paris terror attacks while en route to the Philippines, defending free speech as not only a fundamental human right but a duty to speak one's mind for the sake of the common good.
But he said there were limits. By way of example, he referred to Alberto Gasparri, who organizes papal trips and was standing by his side aboard the papal plane.
If my good friend Dr. Gasparri says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch, Francis said, throwing a pretend punch his way.
"It's normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others."
Many people around the world have defended the right of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo to publish inflammatory cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) in the wake of the massacre by Islamic extremists at its Paris offices and subsequent attack on a kosher supermarket in which three gunmen killed 17 people.
But recently the Vatican and four prominent French imams issued a joint declaration that denounced the attacks but also urged the media to treat religions with respect.
Francis, who has urged Muslim leaders in particular to speak out against Islamic extremism, went a step further when asked by a French journalist about whether there were limits when freedom of expression meets freedom of religion.
Francis insisted that it was an aberration to kill in the name of God and said religion can never be used to justify violence. But he said there was a limit to free speech when it concerned offending someone's religious beliefs.
There are so many people who speak badly about religions or other religions, who make fun of them, who make a game out of the religions of others, he said.
"They are provocateurs. And what happens to them is what would happen to Dr. Gasparri if he says a curse word against my mother. There is a limit."
In the wake of the Paris attacks, the Vatican has sought to downplay reports that it is a potential target for Islamic extremists, saying it is being vigilant but has received no specific threat.
Francis said he was concerned primarily for the faithful, and said he had spoken to Vatican security officials who are taking prudent and secure measures."
I am worried, but you know I have a defect: a good dose of carelessness. I'm careless about these things, he said.
But he admitted that in his prayers, he had asked that if something were to happen to him that "it doesn't hurt, because I'm not very courageous when it comes to pain. I'm very timid." He added, I'm in God's hands. "

 

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[h=1]Pope Francis On Charlie Hebdo: 'You Cannot Insult The Faith Of Others'[/h]

| By Nicole Winfield


Posted: 01/15/2015 9:13 am EST Updated: 3 hours ago

ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (AP) - Pope Francis said Thursday there are limits to freedom of expression, especially when it insults or ridicules someone's faith.
Francis spoke about the Paris terror attacks while en route to the Philippines, defending free speech as not only a fundamental human right but a duty to speak one's mind for the sake of the common good.

But he said there were limits.

By way of example, he referred to Alberto Gasparri, who organizes papal trips and was standing by his side aboard the papal plane.


"If my good friend Dr. Gasparri says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch," Francis said, throwing a pretend punch his way. "It's normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others."
Many people around the world have defended the right of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo to publish inflammatory cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed in the wake of the massacre by Islamic extremists at its Paris offices and subsequent attack on a kosher supermarket in which three gunmen killed 17 people.


But recently the Vatican and four prominent French imams issued a joint declaration that denounced the attacks but also urged the media to treat religions with respect.
Francis, who has urged Muslim leaders in particular to speak out against Islamic extremism, went a step further when asked by a French journalist about whether there were limits when freedom of expression meets freedom of religion.
Francis insisted that it was an "aberration" to kill in the name of God and said religion can never be used to justify violence.


But he said there was a limit to free speech when it concerned offending someone's religious beliefs.
"There are so many people who speak badly about religions or other religions, who make fun of them, who make a game out of the religions of others," he said. "They are provocateurs. And what happens to them is what would happen to Dr. Gasparri if he says a curse word against my mother. There is a limit."
In the wake of the Paris attacks, the Vatican has sought to downplay reports that it is a potential target for Islamic extremists, saying it is being vigilant but has received no specific threat.


Francis said he was concerned primarily for the faithful, and said he had spoken to Vatican security officials who are taking "prudent and secure measures."
"I am worried, but you know I have a defect: a good dose of carelessness. I'm careless about these things," he said. But he admitted that in his prayers, he had asked that if something were to happen to him that "it doesn't hurt, because I'm not very courageous when it comes to pain. I'm very timid."
He added, "I'm in God's hands."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/15/pope-francis-charlie-hebdo_n_6478104.html

 

[Night_Hawk]

آزادی اور ذمہ داری

.....واصف شکیل.......
فرانسیسی میگزمین پر حملے جوچیز واضح ہوئی ہے وہ مغربی معاشرے کا کھوکھلا پن ہے اور چارلی ایبڈو رسالے کے اس فیصلے کے بعد کہ وہ دوبارہ گستاخانہ خاکے شائع کرے گا، مسلمانوں کے خلاف نظریہ عیاں ہوچکا ہے اور لبرل سوچ رکھنے والے لوگ بھی اس کی مذمت کررہے ہیں۔
اظہار رائے کی آزادی کا مطلب مادر پدر آزادی نہیں ہوتی اور نہ ہی اس کی چھتر ی تلے سب کو سب کچھ کہنے کی اجازت مل جاتی ہے۔مغرب اور مشرق کے نظریات میں اس آزادی کے نوعیت مختلف ہے بلکہ ان کی حدود و قیود بھی مختلف ہیں ۔
مغرب میں جہاں شخصی آزادی اپنی انتہائی حدوں کو چھو رہی ہے وہیں مسلمانوں کیلئے دوغلا معیار روا رکھا ہوا ہے۔ 1ارب سے زائد نفوس پر مشتمل ایک مذہب کے ماننے والوں کی دل آزاری کو بھی اظہار رائے کہہ دیا جاتا ہے جبکہ اپنے اپنے لئے اظہار رائے کے کچھ اور ہی معیار ہیں۔ ہمارے پیارے نبیﷺ کے گستاخانہ خاکوں کی اشاعت اور قرآن پاک کی بے حرمتی جیسے واقعات عام ہیں ۔ مگر ہولوکاسٹ کا انکار کرنے والے کو مجرم قرار دیا جاتا ہے۔ یہ کیسا انصاف ہے؟اگر ایک مذہب کے عقائد کو مجروح کرنا جرم ہے تو دوسرے مذاہب کی عزت و تکریم بھی اتنا ہی لازم و ملزوم ہونا چاہیے۔یہ کیسے ممکن ہے کہ لوگوں کو دلی تکلیف دی جائے اور پھر یہ توقع بھی رکھی جائے کہ وہ کوئی رد عمل سے باز رہے گا۔ تشدد کی اجازت کسی صورت نہیں مگر جواز فراہم کرنے والے بھی بری الذمہ نہیں کیا جا سکتا ۔
ہم آہنگی اور رواداری کی فضاء کو برقرار رکھنا اور اس کو فروغ دینا ہر شخص کی اولین ذمہ داریوں میں سے ایک ہے اور اس جانب پہلا قدم ایک دوسرے کے مذہبی جذبات کا احترام ہے۔ -
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Pope says there are limits to freedom of speech

 

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Re: Pope says there are limits to freedom of speech

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30835625

 

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Definition of Freedom of Speech in France

 

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Re: Definition of Freedom of Speech in France

France is a shitt terrorist country. They spread religious-terrorism by insulting and making fun of Islam and the Holy Prophet Mohammad (Peace be upon him ) in the name of their so called freedom of speech. French people are sick-minded morally-corrupt ignorants.