Will Pakistan Fail Again

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
When situation goes beyond a point which has gone for decades in Pakistan, then simple fixes like Urdu / English don't work. We need to rest the constitution and do the wrongs right, bcz the law has failed us for too long now.

You can fix them very easily. hang a few of them. They are servants of the state and not some political tubbar. if they don't serve the state then they are committing treason. Put a bullet in a few and watch them get in line.

Urdu MUST be made mandatory that will allow the average Pakistani to enter civil service which has become a club of the privileged few. There is no such a thing as a privileged civil service. I have never met privileged civil servants in Britain they are ordinary people making things better.
 

taban

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اس کے لئے ایک مقبول، کایاں اور فولاد کی طرح مضبوط لیڈر کی ضرورت ہے۔ جو بڑے فیصلے کر سکے اور اسے لوگوں سے کام کرانا بھی آتا ہو۔ عمران خان میں تو یہ خوبیاں ابھی تک ظاہر نہیں ہوئیں۔ دعا کریں کوئی اور مل جائے۔مطلب یہ ہے کہ اگر کچھ بیوروکریٹس نکالنے ہیں تو نکال دے۔ اگر کچھ وزیر یا وزیراعلیٰ صحیح کام نہیں کر رہے تو انہیں بھی فارغ کرے۔ سٹیل مل اور پی آئی اے اگر صحیح کام نہیں کر رہیں تو انہیں پرائیوٹائز کر دے۔ تاجر، کاروباری اور زراعت پیشہ پر نئے ٹیکس لگائے۔ اس معاملے میں کسی دباو میں نہ آئے۔ انتخابات تو اب چار سال بعد ہی ہونے ہیں۔ بدقسمتی سے خان صاحب تو کوئی فیصلہ بھی نہیں کر رہے۔ تو نتیجہ یہی نکلتا ہے کہ شاید ان میں صلاحیت ہی نہیں ہے۔ بس دعا کریں
عمران مضبوط بھی ہے اور مقبول بھی بس کایاں نہیں ہے
 

imisa2

Senator (1k+ posts)
عمران مضبوط بھی ہے اور مقبول بھی بس کایاں نہیں ہے
عمران مقبول تو یقیناً ہے۔ مضبوط فیصلے اس سے ابھی تک ظاہر نہیں ہوئے، اس لئے مجھے شک ہے۔ باقی صلاحیت کی بھی کافی کمی محسوس ہوتی ہے۔
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You can fix them very easily. hang a few of them. They are servants of the state and not some political tubbar. if they don't serve the state then they are committing treason. Put a bullet in a few and watch them get in line.

Urdu MUST be made mandatory that will allow the average Pakistani to enter civil service which has become a club of the privileged few. There is no such a thing as a privileged civil service. I have never met privileged civil servants in Britain they are ordinary people making things better.

Yes, we need to rest the constitution. Because Bhutta Kuta created this filth on our heads, nothing good has comes from kuttos who was originally sponsored by the military in the 70's which gave us Zardari now.
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
عمران مقبول تو یقیناً ہے۔ مضبوط فیصلے اس سے ابھی تک ظاہر نہیں ہوئے، اس لئے مجھے شک ہے۔ باقی صلاحیت کی بھی کافی کمی محسوس ہوتی ہے۔

یہ فیصلے کرنے کا وقت ہے نہ کہ زہنی آزمائشوں میں پھسنے کا
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Quran, Hadees, Islam, Muslaman everything very good.
I don't see how these beliefs actually help us save Pakistan.
We need to cut the heads of the snakes for Pakistan has bleed too long now.
BEleif is everything as allah has said you will not get junnat perfect country in this life

that is important concept willbring ur worries expectation down u will spread postivity around u

Second how many snakes need to be eliminated whose gonna get rid of those snakes

as our country is full of snakes

How?
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
BEleif is everything as allah has said you will not get junnat perfect country in this life

that is important concept willbring ur worries expectation down u will spread postivity around u

Second how many snakes need to be eliminated whose gonna get rid of those snakes

as our country is full of snakes

How?

Cut the heads of like the Chinese, Chinese system works probably bcz Allah endorsed it so their people see prosperity.
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Cut the heads of like the Chinese, Chinese system works probably bcz Allah endorsed it so their people see prosperity.

LIKe chinese who

is going to cut the heads of so many snakes in pakistan n how?
Cut the heads of like the Chinese, Chinese system works probably bcz Allah endorsed it so their people see prosperity.

Who will implement chinese system in pakistan

After that who will be given the final task

of cutting heads of all so many snakes.
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
LIKe chinese who

is going to cut the heads of so many snakes in pakistan n how?


Who will implement chinese system in pakistan

After that who will be given the final task

of cutting heads of all so many snakes.

My friend, u think too much these things are not done thinking.
When cancer has reached terminal point then doctors must cut off body parts to save the patient from death.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
You guys should stop watching Pakistani media. This "huw'wa" of bureaucracy created by them, specially by the Eienstien of Layyah a.k.a Rauf Klasra is not as dangerous as you think it is.

This is just part of the narrative to demoralize the people and so far it has worked on alot of people.

Is there is a problem, of course there is, but don't forget you need it too to keep the wheels of the nation turning.

Right now IMO the real problem is bureaucracy is too fat which also festers and hides corruption. Director, additional director, secretary, special secretary, director general, head of xyz, assistant to khota of the vice additional deputy's kuttas acting chairmans bhains.

This fat needs to be trimmed down, not only this makes everything slow, but also a drain on our exchequer.

Trimming the fat will not only make things efficient but also more transparent, as they won't be able to hide in the huge layers of hierarchy and just pass the blame on to the one lower than them.

Unfortunately and this problem exists everywhere, it is near impossible to fire a govt employee.

So in my naive and uninformed mind abolish these ranks and positions and transfer people to other provinces. Maybe create new thin and lean departments that actually help the country and its citizens to fit these new jobless yet employed bureaucrats.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
My friend, u think too much these things are not done thinking.
When cancer has reached terminal point then doctors must cut off body parts to save the patient from death.
Stop being an emotional snowflake and think logically for a change. I'm getting tired of everyones one point solution to every problem. Hang them!

And your useless example, doctor just doesn't take a meat cleaver and starts hacking away at a patient. The do a barrage of tests, CAT scans, X rays, biopsies and only operate in worst case scenario and that too very carefully as in to not remove any healthy tissue or damage any other vital organs.

We are trying to become a civilized nation and in a civilized nation and society there are laws to be followed and things take time.

You just listen to einstein of layyah and Sharmida Farooqi and start jumping up and down here. Things are going fine. not as well as we would want them to but they are going.
All these people IK, Asad Umer, Fawad, Sheryar so and so forth doodh peetay bachay nahi hai. Have some faith and give it some time for gods sake!
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Stop being an emotional snowflake and think logically for a change. I'm getting tired of everyones one point solution to every problem. Hang them!

And your useless example, doctor just doesn't take a meat cleaver and starts hacking away at a patient. The do a barrage of tests, CAT scans, X rays, biopsies and only operate in worst case scenario and that too very carefully as in to not remove any healthy tissue or damage any other vital organs.

We are trying to become a civilized nation and in a civilized nation and society there are laws to be followed and things take time.

You just listen to einstein of layyah and Sharmida Farooqi and start jumping up and down here. Things are going fine. not as well as we would want them to but they are going.
All these people IK, Asad Umer, Fawad, Sheryar so and so forth doodh peetay bachay nahi hai. Have some faith and give it some time for gods sake!

The only solution not tried is the real answer now for Pakistan.
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
My friend, u think too much these things are not done thinking.
When cancer has reached terminal point then doctors must cut off body parts to save the patient from death.
I know in cancer we do that

So dost please share your idea how to get rid of snakes

N who is gonna do it

Iam not comprehending sorry
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I know in cancer we do that

So dost please share your idea how to get rid of snakes

N who is gonna do it

Iam not comprehending sorry

No need to comprehend, put these bureaucrats in a line and start cutting them off.

We the people will do it, no bullshit there, we first must realize we Pakistan are the solution to our own problem.
 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
No need to comprehend, put these bureaucrats in a line and start cutting them off.

We the people will do it, no bullshit there, we first must realize we Pakistan are the solution to our own problem.
Emotional Snowflake spotted!

So not actual practical answers or advice, unfortunately things dont run on wishes and unicorns farts.