Why Madarsa Moulvis are involved in child abusement

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Following are some of fatwas taken from the books such as Dar Mukhtar, Chalpi shara Wiqayah, Fatawa e Alamgir. Hidayah, Fatawa Khaniya misr etc., these books are part of Madarasa syllabus. Anybody who wants to complete Aalim Fazil program has to go through above listed books. Following are some fatawas from these books.

Although these fatwas has no support from Qur'an and Hadeeth but since the above listed books are part of the Aalim Fazil course in most of the Pakistani madarasas, every so called Aalim has to go through these listed below Fatwas.

1 – Is someone pays a woman to do zina [adultery] , there is no hadd [no punishment] ( Dar Mukhtar, kitab Hudud, fatawa khaniyah misr vol 3 p 508, kanz daqaiq ed deoband p 180, and this fatwa is attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa while his two students say there is hadd [Adultery Law]. It is well known that the hanafi books of fiqh there is no Chain of Narration [isnad] to their Imam)

2 – The salary of the prostitute is halal [lawful] (Chalpi shara Wiqayah)

3 – If he pays a woman to do zina or wati [Adultery or Intercourse] or if he says I will give you so much dirham or she says give me so much, there is no had [no punishment under Adultery Law] (Alamgiri, vol 2 p 168)

4 – If someone does jima [intercourse] with an animal or with a dead or a young girl (underage girl) and there is no inzal [ejaculation] , then ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah, masail ghusl, aussi Alamgiri, Kitab taharah)

5 – If someone does sodomy with a woman who fasts or a man who fasts, their fast is not broken (Hidayah, Kitab Sawm)

6 – If a young boy of 10 does Jima [intercourse] with a balighah [adult] Woman, there is no Ghusl [bathe]( Alamgiri Kitab taharah)

7 – If someone enters his penis in his dubur (anus), then ghusl is not obligatory (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)

8 – If a man in his dubur [anus] or a woman in her vagina enters the penis of the dead, or his finger, or wood, there is no ghusl [bathe] (Hidayah Kitab Taharah)

9 – If someone enters the penis of an animal in her vagina or dubur [anus], the ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab Taharah Masail Ghusl)

10 – If someone enters the penis of a boy without desire in her vagina or dubur [anus], the ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)

11 – After doing Jima [Intercourse] with a young girl (underage girl), it is not necessary to clean his penis (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)

12 – If someone does jima [intercourse] with a virgin and the maidenhead is not broken, ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)

13 – If someone does wati [intercourse] in the dubur [have anal sex or
commit bestiality] of an animal or in his anus and there is no inzal, then Ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Hidayah kitab taharah)

14 – If the balighah woman [adult woman] does wati [intercourse] with a young boy or with a crazy, then the woman has no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)

15 – If someone does wati [intercourse] with a non balighah woman [non adult woman], or with a dead or an animal, there is no hadd [punishment] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)

16 – If someone does zina [adultery] with the salve of his child or great child, there is no hadd (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)

17 – If someone does zina [adultery] with the slave of grand father or grand mother, there is no Hadd [Punishment for Adultery](Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)

18 – If someone has a slave in rahn (security for loan) and he does zina [adultery], there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)

19 – If someone does nikah [Marriage] with a mahram [sister, mother or daughter or real blood aunt] for ever woman and consider it halal [lawful], there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)

20 – The woman that are for ever forbidden, and he does nikah and he even if he considers that haram [Unlawful] , there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud, et Alamgiri who attribute that to Imam Abu Hanifa)

21 – If he does nikah [marriage] with a woman and joins in nikah his wife’s sister or mother, there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Alamgiri)

22 – If he does temporary marriage [Muta'ah] and he considers that haram [Unlawful], there is no hadd [[Punishment for Adultery] (Alamgiri)

23 – If someone does nikah with a woman who is married before, and he knows she has a husband and it is haram [Unlawful] , there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] Fatawa Khaniya misr vol 3 p 508)

24 – There is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] of zina [Adultery] for the one who cannot speak, neither any hadd [Punishment for Adultery] for something else, even if the witness are present and he admits with isharah [gesture] or by writing (Alamgiri misr, vol 2 p 168)

25 – If someone kidnaps a slave, does zina [Adultery] and pay his responsible [Owner] for her price, there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)

26 – If someone gives permission to another to do zina [Intercourse] with his slave, there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Alamgiri vol 2 p 169)

27 – If the Khalifah or the imam or the king does zina [ADULTERY] there is no hadd [PUNISHMENT] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud) [also in Hidaya and that Hidaya is being taught in Pakistani Madressah]

28 – There is no hadd for sodomy [Anal Intercourse] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)

29 – If someone does zina [ADULTERY] in dar ul harb [Land/Country of Infidels] or in the land of revolted people, there is no hadd [PUNISHMENT] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
Imagine an Aalim from these madaras is given task to teach children, what would you expect from these so-called madarasa moulvis.

Government should regularize the madrasa syllabus so that it may be free from all above “kharafaats”
 
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Zinda_Rood

Minister (2k+ posts)

مفادِ عامہ کے تحت کھولے گئے اس تھریڈ میں حصہ ڈالتے ہوئے میں عوام الناس کے علم میں اضافہ کرتا چلوں کہ حضرتِ مولانا مودودی نے تفسیرِ قرآن کی آڑ میں نابالغ بچیوں کے ساتھ نکاح اور جنسی فعل کو بالکل جائز قرار دیا ہے اور یہ بھی فرمایا ہے کہ کسی مسلمان کو حق نہیں کہ وہ نابالغ بچی کے ساتھ نکاح اور جنسی فعل کی مخالفت کرے۔۔۔ ثبوت پیشِ خدمت ہے۔۔

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حوالہ: تفہیم القرآن ، جلد پنجم، صفحہ نمبر 571۔۔۔۔
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

مفادِ عامہ کے تحت کھولے گئے اس تھریڈ میں حصہ ڈالتے ہوئے میں عوام الناس کے علم میں اضافہ کرتا چلوں کہ حضرتِ مولانا مودودی نے تفسیرِ قرآن کی آڑ میں نابالغ بچیوں کے ساتھ نکاح اور جنسی فعل کو بالکل جائز قرار دیا ہے اور یہ بھی فرمایا ہے کہ کسی مسلمان کو حق نہیں کہ وہ نابالغ بچی کے ساتھ نکاح اور جنسی فعل کی مخالفت کرے۔۔۔ ثبوت پیشِ خدمت ہے۔۔

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حوالہ: تفہیم القرآن ، جلد پنجم، صفحہ نمبر 571۔۔۔۔

Please stay on topic! There is a huge difference in Nikhah with "underage girl" and child abuse.
 

Zinda_Rood

Minister (2k+ posts)
Please stay on topic! There is a huge difference in Nikhah with "underage girl" and child abuse.


جناب، آپ کی چائلڈ ابیوز کی ڈیفی نیشن ہی غلط ہے، اگر کوئی فکرِ مودودی پر عمل کرتے ہوئے آٹھ نو سال کی بچی سے نکاح کرکے اس سے ہمبستری کرلے تو کیا یہ چائلڈ ابیوز نہیں ہے؟؟

 

Insight

Senator (1k+ posts)
not all madrassa are involved. very few of the madrassa are involved.
When molvi come to house you must give him an open place where you can see your child and molvi.
Issue is we do not have time for our kids and we don't see what they are doing.

Same thing applies for tutor who comes for tution for english subjects. Some of these tutors are also involved. Why only molvi and madrassa.

These days, we do not have time for our kids and we left them on the mercy of molvi and tutors.
Why don't we teach quran by ourself in the first case ? why don't we spare time for our kids to see what they are doing.
Moreover, kids have smartphone and internet and we don't know what they are doing. It is the Prime responsibility of parents to keep an eye on kids and check what they are doing. Why parents give a free atmosphere to kids to do whatever they want ?

Moreover, whatever written in the above threads regarding small age marriage or whatever is irrelevant as this is not the issue and these kind of things are not happening in general..
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
not all madrassa are involved. very few of the madrassa are involved.
When molvi come to house you must give him an open place where you can see your child and molvi.
Issue is we do not have time for our kids and we don't see what they are doing.

Same thing applies for tutor who comes for tution for english subjects. Some of these tutors are also involved. Why only molvi and madrassa.

These days, we do not have time for our kids and we left them on the mercy of molvi and tutors.
Why don't we teach quran by ourself in the first case ? why don't we spare time for our kids to see what they are doing.
Moreover, kids have smartphone and internet and we don't know what they are doing. It is the Prime responsibility of parents to keep an eye on kids and check what they are doing. Why parents give a free atmosphere to kids to do whatever they want ?

Moreover, whatever written in the above threads regarding small age marriage or whatever is irrelevant as this is not the issue and these kind of things are not happening in general..

I agree with first part of your comments that parents should be vigilant and give more time to their kids. But are you in favor of keeping the madarasa syllabus as it is and do not hat above mentioned Fatwas, which has no basis from Qur'an and Hadeeth, be removed from the madarasa syllabus.

Imagine a young Madarasa student who had been learning these fatwas in Madarasa becomes a moulvi and is responsible to teach Qur'an to children, aren't there chances that he may look at the kids in the light of following fatwa (for example):


If someone does jima [intercourse] with an animal or with a dead or a young girl (underage girl) and there is no inzal [ejaculation] , then ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah, masail ghusl, aussi Alamgiri, Kitab taharah)

Wouldn't he think that if Ghusl (bath) is not wajib (obligatory) after committing above crime than it is not a sin. Wouldn't Shaitan exploit his dirty thoughts and convince him that it is OK?
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
!آپ کو یہ کیسے پتا چلا کے بچوں کے استحصال میں ملوث افراد یہ فتوے پڑھ کر ایسا کرتے ہیں
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Please stay on topic! There is a huge difference in Nikhah with "underage girl" and child abuse.

سکین کرنے اور پھیلانے والے دونوں باکمال ہیں.
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صفحہ ٥٧٠ سے پڑھیں تو معلوم ہوتا ہے کے ایسی لڑکیوں کا تذکرہ ہو رہا ہے جو عمر کی اس حد تک پہنچ گئی ہیں لیکن کسی وجہ سے ابھی تک مخصوص ایام کا تجربہ نہیں ہوا جو ان کی ہم عمر لڑکیوں کو ہو چکا ہے
 

Khair Andesh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
جہاں ایسے واقعات کو لے کر لبرل، اور لبرلزم کا لبادہ اوڑھے اہل تشیع اور قادیانی، دینی مدارس اوراسلام کو نشانہ بنا کر اپنا بغض نکال رہے ہیں، وہیں ایک مبینہ غیر مقلد نے بھی بہتی گنگا میں ہاتھ دھونا مناسب سمجھا۔۔ اعتراض کسی کے مقلد یا غیر مقلد ہونے پر نہیں، بلکہ اس بات پر ہے کہ موصوف نے علماء کرام اور دینی مدارس و مساجد کو بدنام کرنے کی مذموم عالمی مہم میں اپنا حصہ ڈالنا ضروری سمجھا۔ جو کہ یقینا قابل مذمت فعل ہے۔
جہاں تک اوپر دیئے گئے فتاوی اور دوسری عبارات کا ذکر ہے، تو یہ کم و بیش وہی کام ہے جو فورم کے فرقہ پرست کرتے رہتے ہیں، یعنی سیاق و سباق سے ہٹ کر،اور سینکڑوں ہزاروں فتاوی کو پس انداز کر کے، اپنے مطلب کی تحریر کو اپنے مطلب کے معنی پہنا کر پیش کرنا۔ یہ ایسے ہی ہے کہ اگر کوئی کسی مفتی سے پوچھے کہ کیا چور کو چوری کی وجہ سے قتل کیا جا سکتا ہے، تو ظاہر ہے کہ مفتی صاحب یہی کہیں گے کہ نہیں چور کو قتل کرنا جائز نہیں۔اور کوئی شخص ان ہزاروں فتاوی کو چھوڑ کر جس میں چور کے ہاتھ کاٹنے کا ذکر ہے، صرف اس ایک فتوی کی بنیاد پر یہ پروپیگنڈا کرنا شروع کر دے کہ مفتی صاحب نے چوری کی حمایت کر دی۔
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
!آپ کو یہ کیسے پتا چلا کے بچوں کے استحصال میں ملوث افراد یہ فتوے پڑھ کر ایسا کرتے ہیں
So you are also in favour of keeping these un-Islamic Fatwas part of Madagascar syllabus?
 
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Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
جہاں ایسے واقعات کو لے کر لبرل، اور لبرلزم کا لبادہ اوڑھے اہل تشیع اور قادیانی، دینی مدارس اوراسلام کو نشانہ بنا کر اپنا بغض نکال رہے ہیں، وہیں ایک مبینہ غیر مقلد نے بھی بہتی گنگا میں ہاتھ دھونا مناسب سمجھا۔۔ اعتراض کسی کے مقلد یا غیر مقلد ہونے پر نہیں، بلکہ اس بات پر ہے کہ موصوف نے علماء کرام اور دینی مدارس و مساجد کو بدنام کرنے کی مذموم عالمی مہم میں اپنا حصہ ڈالنا ضروری سمجھا۔ جو کہ یقینا قابل مذمت فعل ہے۔
جہاں تک اوپر دیئے گئے فتاوی اور دوسری عبارات کا ذکر ہے، تو یہ کم و بیش وہی کام ہے جو فورم کے فرقہ پرست کرتے رہتے ہیں، یعنی سیاق و سباق سے ہٹ کر،اور سینکڑوں ہزاروں فتاوی کو پس انداز کر کے، اپنے مطلب کی تحریر کو اپنے مطلب کے معنی پہنا کر پیش کرنا۔ یہ ایسے ہی ہے کہ اگر کوئی کسی مفتی سے پوچھے کہ کیا چور کو چوری کی وجہ سے قتل کیا جا سکتا ہے، تو ظاہر ہے کہ مفتی صاحب یہی کہیں گے کہ نہیں چور کو قتل کرنا جائز نہیں۔اور کوئی شخص ان ہزاروں فتاوی کو چھوڑ کر جس میں چور کے ہاتھ کاٹنے کا ذکر ہے، صرف اس ایک فتوی کی بنیاد پر یہ پروپیگنڈا کرنا شروع کر دے کہ مفتی صاحب نے چوری کی حمایت کر دی۔

Brother, could you please provide the context ( Siaq-o-Sabaq) of following fatwa:

There is no hadd for sodomy [Anal Intercourse] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
 

Khair Andesh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Brother, could you please provide the context ( Siaq-o-Sabaq) of following fatwa: There is no hadd for sodomy [Anal Intercourse] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
ا دعوی آپ نے کیا ہے، ثابت بھی آپ کو ہی کرنا ہو گا کہ آپ جو کچھ کہہ رہے ہو، اس کا وہی مطلب نکلتا ہے، جو آپ بنا رہے ہو۔جن لوگوں کو غسل اور نماز کے فرائض معلوم نہیں، ان کے سامنے اس قسم کے مسائل جن پر ایک عالم ہی کمنٹ کر سکتا ہے، کو رکھ کر آپ دوسروں کو گمراہ کرنے کی کوشش کر رہے ہو۔کیا ہی اچھا ہو کہ آپ اپنا اعتراض کسی عالم کو پیش کرو، اور پھر جو جواب وہ دے، اسے یہاں شیئر کرو
سرچ کرنے پر مجھے یہ دو آرٹیکل ملے، جس میں سے ایک کے مصنف خیر سے مفتی ہیں اور یقینا انہی کتب کو پڑھ کر عالم بنے ہوں گے جن پر آپ کو فضول اعتراض ہے۔۔
اسلام میں ہم جنس پرستی کی سزا
اسلام اور ہم جنس پرستی
اس لئے فقہاء نے صراحت کی ہے کہ جو کوئی ہم جنسی عمل کرے تو اس کی سزا موت ہے۔ نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے ارشاد فرمایا کہ ہر دو کو موت کی سزا دو اور ایک حدیث میں ایسے افراد کو آپﷺ نے ملعون فرمایا ہے۔ پس فقہاء کے نزدیک سزا سے متعلق کوئی اختلاف نہیں ہے، تمام موت کی سزا پر متفق ہیں، اختلاف نوعیت موت میں ہے۔ بعض نے کہا جلادیا جائے، بعض نے کہا پہاڑ پر سے پھینک دیا جائے اور بعض نے کہا کہ سنگسار کیا جائے اور جو خواتین ہم جنس پرستی کی شکار ہیں وہ تعزیری سزا کی مستحق ہیں۔ علماء نے ان سے متعلق سورۃ النساء کی آیت ۱۵ سے استدلال کیا کہ ’’جو عورتیں (باہم) بدکاری کا ارتکاب کریں تو ان پر چار افراد کی گواہی طلب کرو اور وہ گواہی دے دیں تو ان کو گھروں میں قید کردو، تاآنکہ وہ انتقال کرجائیں‘‘۔
اگر اتنے واضح موقف کے باوجود آپ اپنی بات پر اڑے ہوئے ہو، اور اپنی غلطی ماننے پر تیار نہیں، تو پھر آپ کٹ حجتی پر اترے ہوئے ہو۔
 
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atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
So you are also in favour of keeping these un-Islamic Fatwas part of Madagascar syllabus?

"آپ کے تھریڈ کا عنوان "غیر اسلامی فتوی نہیں
"Why Madarsa Moulvis are involved in child abusement" تھریڈ کا عنوان ہے
یہ کیسے پتہ چلا یا پتہ چلے گا کے اس جرم میں ملوث افراد یہ نصاب پڑھ کر اس جرم کے مرتکب ہوئے
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ا دعوی آپ نے کیا ہے، ثابت بھی آپ کو ہی کرنا ہو گا کہ آپ جو کچھ کہہ رہے ہو، اس کا وہی مطلب نکلتا ہے، جو آپ بنا رہے ہو۔جن لوگوں کو غسل اور نماز کے فرائض معلوم نہیں، ان کے سامنے اس قسم کے مسائل جن پر ایک عالم ہی کمنٹ کر سکتا ہے، کو رکھ کر آپ دوسروں کو گمراہ کرنے کی کوشش کر رہے ہو۔کیا ہی اچھا ہو کہ آپ اپنا اعتراض کسی عالم کو پیش کرو، اور پھر جو جواب وہ دے، اسے یہاں شیئر کرو
سرچ کرنے پر مجھے یہ دو آرٹیکل ملے، جس میں سے ایک کے مصنف خیر سے مفتی ہیں اور یقینا انہی کتب کو پڑھ کر عالم بنے ہوں گے جن پر آپ کو فضول اعتراض ہے۔۔
اسلام میں ہم جنس پرستی کی سزا
اسلام اور ہم جنس پرستی
اگر اتنے واضح موقف کے باوجود آپ اپنی بات پر اڑے ہوئے ہو، اور اپنی غلطی ماننے پر تیار نہیں، تو پھر آپ کٹ حجتی پر اترے ہوئے ہو۔

I think you did not read my complete original post. This is exactly what I want to say that these Fatawas which are against Islam are still part of the Madarsa syllabus and hence should be removed as these Fatawas may misguided some of the Madarsa students. That’s all!!! Do you have any issue with that?
 
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Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
yeah one is legal child abuse and the other one is not so legal.... still child abuse, nonetheless!

In more than 30 states, 16-year-olds can get married with parents' permission, and younger children can get married with a judge's consent. That means marrying under age 18 is legal in almost every state. However, it is not very common: In 2014, around 57,800 children aged 15 to 17 were married in the U.S.

I would not discuss the issue of underage girls as this will take us away from the topic. All I wanted to say that there is a difference between rape of a child below 15 and marriage of underage girls 15 - 17 with the consent of parents. Obviously, we do not expect that parents will willingly give consent which is not reasonable or is unnatural.
 
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Insight

Senator (1k+ posts)

I agree with first part of your comments that parents should be vigilant and give more time to their kids. But are you in favor of keeping the madarasa syllabus as it is and do not hat above mentioned Fatwas, which has no basis from Qur'an and Hadeeth, be removed from the madarasa syllabus

Do you know how many subjects are taught in madrassa? Have you ever gone through the syllabus for Aalim and Mufti ?Fatwas are given by Mufti. Madrassa people say clearly that you must take Fatwa only from those who are Mufti. ONLY those Mufti which give fatwa. In every big Madrassa there is Dar ul Afta, In this Dar ul Afta there is a Mufti specifically sitting there to listen to issues and give Fatwa. Do not take fatwa from anyone who is sitting on the road or on the internet Or from the media. The issue is we have time to search for universities and their syllabus, we also see who is teaching what... but when it comes to Fatwa or Islam we just simply don't care and point fingures to all moulvis and madrassa..

Imagine a young Madarasa student who had been learning these fatwas in Madarasa becomes a moulvi and is responsible to teach Qur'an to children, aren't there chances that he may look at the kids in the light of following fatwa (for example):


If someone does jima [intercourse] with an animal or with a dead or a young girl (underage girl) and there is no inzal [ejaculation] , then ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah, masail ghusl, aussi Alamgiri, Kitab taharah)

Wouldn't he think that if Ghusl (bath) is not wajib (obligatory) after committing above crime than it is not a sin. Wouldn't Shaitan exploit his dirty thoughts and convince him that it is OK?

Again the above is possible but not applicable for all molvis. Why we should not check ourself about the learning and thoughts of Molvi before giving our child under the supervision of molvi..

It is easy to malign and point fingures to others. These days, even before the child is even born. The mother of a child is pregnant and the parents are worried and searching the best school for their kids (although, it is good). But when it comes to teaching quran, its very easy. Call anyone nearby who has a little beard and is ready to teach quran for a little amount and that's it. No one asked this quran teacher about his learning, his madrassa, his fundamentals, his views, his education etc...
when this kind of quran teacher makes a trouble we point fingures to all madrassa and all molvis and even the syllabus.
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Do you know how many subjects are taught in madrassa? Have you ever gone through the syllabus for Aalim and Mufti ?Fatwas are given by Mufti..

What output can we expect from following syllabus of Dars-e-Nizami being taught in almost all Madrasas :

Darja ola (1st year )
nahav meer
namaz ke ahkam
insha ul arabia
tarqatul jadeda
ilm ut tajweed
muhadsa
sarf bihai
asas e arabi
..............
darja saniya (2nd year )
tasheel un nahav
tasheel us sarf
noor ul ezah
tasheel ul mantiq & taleem ul mantiq
mutala arabia
hidayat un nahav
...............
darja e salisa (3rd year)
qudoori
osool e shashi
kafia
sabae mualliqat
mirqat
duroos ul balagat
al itqan
ilm ulm quran
...........
darja e rabia (4th Year)
sharah mulla jami
hidaya
noor ul anwar
sharah tahzeeb
talkhees ul miftah
jalalain
musnad imam e azam
risyaz ul salihen
...........
darjae khamisa (5th Year)
jalalain akhri
hidaya
hussami
mukhtasar ul muaini
mishkat shareef
............
darja e sadisa (6th Year)
tuzeeh wa talweeh
hidaya
tafseer e bedawi
zubdatul fikr
siraji
sharah aqauid
....
dorah hadith (final Year)
sahih bukhari
sahih muslim
jami timrizi
sharah muaini ul asar
sunan nisai
sunan abu dawood
asar e sunan
sunan ibne maja

Above seven years course has less than 25% of Arabic, Qur'an and Siha Sitta Books. These three subject should be at least 70% of the total course.

Again the above is possible but not applicable for all molvis. Why we should not check ourself about the learning and thoughts of Molvi before giving our child under the supervision of molvi..

It is easy to malign and point fingures to others. These days, even before the child is even born. The mother of a child is pregnant and the parents are worried and searching the best school for their kids (although, it is good). But when it comes to teaching quran, its very easy. Call anyone nearby who has a little beard and is ready to teach quran for a little amount and that's it. No one asked this quran teacher about his learning, his madrassa, his fundamentals, his views, his education etc...
when this kind of quran teacher makes a trouble we point fingures to all madrassa and all molvis and even the syllabus.

Are you among those who thinks that there is no harm in keeping above mentioned "Kharafaat", listed in my starting post, as a part of the syllabus for the madarsa students?
 
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