Islamabad Main MANDIR Nahi Bane Ga | Maulana Akbar Chitrali Speech in NA

Munawarkhan

Minister (2k+ posts)
I was searching for a speech from Mufti Taqi Usmani & other senior maulvis, condemning londay bazi's in Madrassas & mosques, can't find any. can't find any condemnation either, can't find parliament speech too.

Isn't that a more pertinent issue. Soo many kids are currently vulnerable.


Allah Maulvion ko Hidayet de.
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Land must be taken back , no new mandir with government money.

If you want to build new mandir or even masjid use your own land and money.

Only historical building could be repaired with public money because they have historical importance.
Then maybe the non muslim minorities should also claim that none of their tax money be spent on anything Islamic or Islam related from security to some kandoori moulvi to restoration of any masjid.
 

JusticeLover

Minister (2k+ posts)
Then maybe the non muslim minorities should also claim that none of their tax money be spent on anything Islamic or Islam related from security to some kandoori moulvi to restoration of any masjid.
Religion is private matter , why should Government build temples is that so hard to understand.
If they want to build temple so bad then pass a law that masjids mandirs and gurdwars will be build according to population ratio justly.

How many masjids IK government his built ? zero.
 

Ibrahim Madani

Minister (2k+ posts)
تمام تر گالیوں اور لعن طعن کے باوجود اہل علم کا کام یہ ہے کہ بغیر کسی ڈر اور خوف کے حق بات کو بیان کریں اور اس پر ڈٹ جایئں
مولانا چترالی صاحب کی بات اسلئے بلکل درست ہے کہ اصل مسلہ مندر کا بننا نہیں ہے بلکہ ریاستی سرپرستی میں مسلمانوں کے ٹیکس سے شرک کی جگہوں کو آباد کرنا ہے

اسلام آباد میں مندر کی تعمیر
شرعی نقطۂ نظر سے مسلمانوں کے ٹیکس، زکوة ، عشر یا پھر غیر مسلموں کے دے ہوئے جزیہ کو بھی اس مصرف میں استعمال نہیں کیا جا سکتا
جزیہ غیر مسلموں کی جان اور مال کی پروٹیکشن یا ذمّہ کے مصرف میں استعمال ہوسکتا ہے, انکے باطل مذہبی رسومات کی ترویج میں نہیں-
اسکے علاوہ مسلمانوں کے ٹیکس کا پیسہ یا ریاست کا بیت المال غیر مسلموں کی تعلیم, انکی صحت اور انکے روزگار کی مد میں خرچ ہوسکتا ہے لیکن شرک کے اڈے آباد کرنے کے لئے نہیں
رسول اللہ ص کی پوری حیات طیّبہ اور خلافت راشدہ کا پورا دور اس قسم کی کوئی مثال دینے سے قاصر ہے جس میں شرک کا اڈہ آباد کیا گیا ہو اہتمام کے ساتھ
ایک استثنیٰ کی صورت البتہ یہ ہے کہ اگر کسی مذہبی مقام کو کوئی نقصان پہنچ جاۓ یعنی کسی حملے کے نتیجے میں یا طوفان زلزلے میں تو اسکی مرمت پر جزیے والی رقم خرچ کی جا سکتی ہے کیونکہ اس عمارت کا بھی ذمّہ مسلمان حکومت کا ہے اور نقصان کی وجہ سے زمیوں کی جان کو بھی خطرہ لاحق ہو سکتا ہے
ان اصولوں کی روشنی میں اسلام آباد میں مندر کی تعمیر شرعی نقطہ نظر سے ایک غلط قدم ہے
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Religion is private matter , why should Government build temples is that so hard to understand.
If they want to build temple so bad then pass a law that masjids mandirs and gurdwars will be build according to population ratio justly.

How many masjids IK government his built ? zero.
Like I said then non muslim tax payers should be given guarantee that none of their money should be spent on anything Islamic or Islam related first.
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
مام تر گالیوں اور لعن طعن کے باوجود اہل علم کا کام یہ ہے کہ بغیر کسی ڈر اور خوف کے حق بات کو بیان کریں اور اس پر ڈٹ جایئں
مولانا چترالی صاحب کی بات اسلئے بلکل درست ہے کہ اصل مسلہ مندر کا بننا نہیں ہے بلکہ ریاستی سرپرستی میں مسلمانوں کے ٹیکس سے شرک کی جگہوں کو آباد کرنا ہے
What a load of utter baseless and brainless garbage, tomorrow the minorities will also say we will not pay any tax because our money is being used for Islamic and Islam related activities.
 

Ibrahim Madani

Minister (2k+ posts)
What a load of utter baseless and brainless garbage, tomorrow the minorities will also say we will not pay any tax because our money is being used for Islamic and Islam related activities.
They should pay taxes for the services the govt gives them in form of protection, health, education and infrastructure etc. not for our Masajid. We will manage that Alhamdulillah on our own.
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
They should pay taxes for the services the govt gives them in form of protection, health, education and infrastructure etc. not for our Masajid. We will manage that Alhamdulillah on our own.
Not only Masjid there are a 10001 Islamic things happening in the country like I said from security to some duffer moulvi to religious, PTV broadcasting Quran, Islami councils etc etc can you give give them audited accounts every year where their money is spent.

For god's sake learn to have some tolerance for a change. Stop listening to these intolerant dungars for whom this is their business.
 

Ibrahim Madani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Not only Masjid there are a 10001 Islamic things happening in the country like I said from security to some duffer moulvi to religious, PTV broadcasting Quran, Islami councils etc etc can you give give them audited accounts every year where their money is spent.

For god's sake learn to have some tolerance for a change. Stop listening to these intolerant dungars for whom this is their business.
Its not about tolerance at all. I would love them to feel welcomed but there are 10001 ways to be welcoming and respectful to them. We do not necessarily need to indulge in propagating idol worship to please them. If need be, give them audited account of where their taxes are spent and I dont have any problems with that.
 

Citizen X

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
We do not necessarily need to indulge in propagating
This is not propagating, Pakistanis know the entire hindu religion by heart, probably better than some hindus themselves, not because of temples but because of bollywood and Indian media which they still love to watch, in the day they will curse India all day long but at night still have to watch Indian movie and aunties sitting at home have to watch Zee TV. No one ever made any noise about it until recently.

If need be, give them audited account of where their taxes are spent and I dont have any problems with that.
Who will do this? And who will pay for it?

This is just bigotry and intolerance, nothing else
 

JusticeLover

Minister (2k+ posts)
This is not propagating, Pakistanis know the entire hindu religion by heart, probably better than some hindus themselves, not because of temples but because of bollywood and Indian media which they still love to watch, in the day they will curse India all day long but at night still have to watch Indian movie and aunties sitting at home have to watch Zee TV. No one ever made any noise about it until recently.


Who will do this? And who will pay for it?

This is just bigotry and intolerance, nothing else
Matlab kya hai iss sarye bahis ka ?? GVT hamary tax pay mandar banati jaye aur hum chup bethay rahin?

Agar ye kam theek na hoye to IK sahib apni chuti samjain. Ye Mandar hum apny paison sy nahi banany dain gain. Jao ja kar khud property purchase karo phir ispar apna butkhana bano.
 

Ibrahim Madani

Minister (2k+ posts)
This is not propagating, Pakistanis know the entire hindu religion by heart, probably better than some hindus themselves, not because of temples but because of bollywood and Indian media which they still love to watch, in the day they will curse India all day long but at night still have to watch Indian movie and aunties sitting at home have to watch Zee TV. No one ever made any noise about it until recently.


Who will do this? And who will pay for it?

This is just bigotry and intolerance, nothing else
The do's and dont's of our DEEN are absolute and have no place for wishful thinking. I myself and millions of Pakistanis dont know anything about hindu pooja and our kids that are growing up are also not aware. So we want to adopt the absolute guidance of our DEEN and not give way to idol worship with our money. Those Pakistanis who are absolutely bent upon contructing Mandir from taxpayers money can instead form their own fund like dam(-fool) fund and do crowd funding for this purpose. I dont want to have any share in this for my aakhirah.
 
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