Zaid Hamid's message

[wsher]

A beautiful message from Zaid Hamid. Very straight forward.

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid [Official]To those who doubt me, mission: I have always called you towards Quran, Sunnah, Ishq e Rasul, Khilafat e Rashida, dignity,honour of Ummah, Iqbal and ideology, defense of Pakistan. Not a single word ever against Quran, alhamdolillah. I have never invited you towards myself. Judge every word. if it is according to Quran, then stand for Ummat e Rasul (sm)?? Dont let shaitan confuse you. May Allah have mercy upon you.

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[khan afghan]

As I personally support you for your vision nd ideology about pakistan.But let me
tell onething you should come clear of the mess you have done with yousaf kazzb.
I have listened your audio speech in which you hve been called sahabi.Dont play anymore
with the people who are patriotic as will religiouse.every one asked you and asking untill you
accept that have done wrong when you were with youaf kazzab.May be you have been hypnatised
by that peron or you had little knowledge about his ideology but you should apologise to the
whole country.Dont divert the quetions on yousaf kazzab.Condemn him and apologise thats
the way forwrd .otherwise people will make your peronlity controvercial.Come clean.you are
a good man but you did a sin and there is a remedy of apolgy to ALLAH and the muslims.

 

[shagi]

Pakistan is full of such people who ccritisize patriotics. Zahid Hamid is a patriotic person. He is a true muslim as well. There is no doubt about this. Haters of ZH try to malign his personality and tarnish his patriotism by false baseless claims. We should wake up now and realize who we are and what we are doing. By blamming a true muslim you are comitting a big sin. People may have differences with his ideology but they have no right to blame him non muslim. These people are trying to take advantage of mullah created blastphemy law in Pakistan to trap him for his straight forward patriotic ideology. If you differ with him and his ideology then discuss it openly but do'nt comit a big sin. Allah will never forgive you for this crime.

 

[shagi]

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[Raaz]

As I personally support you for your vision nd ideology about pakistan.But let me
tell onething you should come clear of the mess you have done with yousaf kazzb.
I have listened your audio speech in which you hve been called sahabi.Dont play anymore
with the people who are patriotic as will religiouse.every one asked you and asking untill you
accept that have done wrong when you were with youaf kazzab.May be you have been hypnatised
by that peron or you had little knowledge about his ideology but you should apologise to the
whole country.Dont divert the quetions on yousaf kazzab.Condemn him and apologise thats
the way forwrd .otherwise people will make your peronlity controvercial.Come clean.you are
a good man but you did a sin and there is a remedy of apolgy to ALLAH and the muslims.

Did ZH said himself Sahabi or Kazab said him Sahabi?

If he called himself Sahabi, then it was wrong,

But if some else said him Sahabi, then it is different.

It is same if some one call u sahabi and u cannot do anything.

 

[khan afghan]

But if someone call you with bad name then you should immediatelly
stop him from doing so.And this is not a comman matter .It is very sensitive
matter and should be resolved once and for alll.If your name is Aslam and
cll you Akabar will you correct me or not.I posted earlier I like him muself but
when it comes to be regarding our Prophet SAW then it should be cleared.All
sahabis before islam were full of sins and when embraced islam they never refused
their past.If he did something wrong then should apologise its not something he should hesitate.

 

[Tabrez]

Mr. Hamid says that he doesn't say things that are against the Qur'an. According to the Qur'an, the Prophet did not know the Ghaib, but Mr. Hamid is promoting war with India mased on hadeeth that allege - against the Qur'anic testimony - that the Prophet made statements about the ghaib - the future.

I wanted to know if the Quran supports this claim and if there is any indication in the Quran that the Prophet made predictions about future events events of the ghaib or unknown and if it were part of the mission that was assigned to him by God. The following verses from the Quran give a completely different picture than what the speaker was implying in his speech:

Say [O Prophet]: It is not within my power to bring benefit to, or avert harm from, myself, except as God may please. And if I knew that which is beyond the reach of human perception, abundant good fortune-would surely have fallen to my lot, and no evil would ever have touched me. I am nothing but a warner, and a herald of glad tidings unto people who will believe. (Quran 7:188)

I was struck by this extremely plain and logical verse from the Quran. The prophet is made to say that if he did have knowledge of the future ghaib then no calamities would have befallen him and he would have all the treasures of the world. The history tells us that the Prophet faced severe hardships in his life, which he could have avoided had he known what is in the future.

The above verse is not the only verse where the Prophet is made to declare that he has no knowledge of the ghaib. There are several other verses emphasizing this point. Here are a few examples:

Say [O Prophet]: I do not say unto you, God's treasures are with me,; nor [do I say], I know the things that are beyond the reach of human perception; nor do I say unto you, Behold, I am an angel: I but follow what is revealed to me. Say: Can the blind and the seeing be deemed equal? Will you not, then, take thought? (Quran 6:50)

This declaration of the Prophet was not new. Prophets before him also made such declarations as well.

Prophet Noah said:

And I do not say unto you, God's treasures are with me; nor [do I say], I know the reality which is beyond the reach of human perception; nor do I say, Behold, I am an angel; nor do I say of those whom your eyes hold in contempt, Never will God grant them any good- for God is fully aware of what is in their hearts. Were I to speak thus, verily, I would indeed be among the evildoers. (Quran 11:31)

What is revealed to the Prophet of the ghaib is identified clearly in the Quran as the stories of the past prophets:

These accounts of something that was beyond the reach of thy perception We [now] reveal unto thee, [O Muhammad: for] neither thou nor thy people knew them [fully] ere this. Be, then, [like Noah,] patient in adversity - for, behold, the future belongs to the God-conscious! (Quran 11:49)

This account of something that was beyond the reach of thy perception We [now] reveal unto thee, [O Prophet:] for thou wert not with Joseph's brothers when they resolved upon what they were going to do and wove their schemes [against him]. (Quran 12:102)

It is sad that people invent stories that have no basis in the Quran and that defy the Quran. Since the Quran is the Furqan the criterion to distinguish between what is correct and what is false, we should always seek its help in determining if a certain idea or report or story - especially as it pertains to the Prophet - is correct or false.

Or have they a ladder by which they could [ascend to ultimate truths and] listen [to what is beyond the reach of human perception]? Let, then, any of them who have listened [to it] produce a manifest proof [of his knowledge]! (Quran 52:38)

There are traditions that describe the details of the last Day and the signs that herald the coming of the last Day. However, Only God knows the coming of the hour and It will come suddenly:

They will ask thee [O Prophet] about the Last hour: When will it come to pass? Say: Verily, knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone. None but He will reveal it in its time. Heavily will it weigh on the heavens and the earth; [and] it will not fall upon you otherwise than of a sudden. They will ask thee - as if thou couldst gain insight into this [mystery] by dint of persistent inquiry! Say: knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone; but [of this] most people are unaware. (Quran 7:187)

Verily, with God alone rests the knowledge of when the Last hour will come: and He [it is who] sends down rain; and He [alone] knows what is in the wombs: whereas no one knows what he will reap tomorrow, and no one knows in what land he will die, Verily. God [alone] is all-knowing, all-aware. (Quran 31:34)

People will ask thee about the Last hour. Say: knowledge thereof rests with God alone; yet for all thou knowest, the Last hour may well be near! (Quran 33:63)

In none of the above verses the Prophet is made to say that yes such and such events will indicate that the Last Hour is near. It is strange that the Book of God makes no such claims on behalf of the Prophet, and yet, the traditions are full of stories of details will happen near the time of Qiamat and these traditions show contrary to the reports in the Quran that the Prophet had knowledge of all these future events.
The fact is that it was not the mission of the Prophet to forecast or predict the future, and nowhere is he shown in the Quran to ever make any such claims about the ghaib. As opposed to that he is clearly made to identify his mission in the Quran in no uncertain terms so that the people after him do not invent false stories about his mission.

The Mission of the Prophet:
"You are NOTHING but a Warner <in inta illa nazeerun>. Surely We have sent you with the truth as a bearer of GOOD NEWS and a WARNER <basheerun wa nazeerun>, and there is not a people but a Warner has gone among them."(Quran 35:23-24)

"Do they not reflect that their companion has not unsoundness in mind; he is ONLY A PLAIN WARNER <Illa Nazeerum Mubeenun>." (Quran 7:184)

"Then, it may be that you will give up part of what is revealed to you and your breast will become straitened by it because they say: Why has not a treasure been sent down upon him or an angel come with him? You are ONLY A WARNER< <innama anta nazeerun>; and it is Allah that arranges all affairs." (Quran 11:12)

And We have not sent you BUT as a giver of good news and as a warner <wama arsalnaka illa mubashirun wa nazeerun>." (Quran 25:56)

"Say: I exhort you only to ONE thing, that rise up for Allah's sake in twos and singly, then reflect: there is no madness in your companion; he is NOTHING BUT A WARNER to you <hua illa nazeerun> before a severe chastisement." (Quran 34:46)

"Say: I am ONLY a warner <innama ana munzirun>, and there is no god but Allah, the One, the Subduer (of all)." (Quran 38:65)

"ONLY this has been revealed to me: that I am to give warning plainly <in yuHaiya illaiya illa annama ana nazeerum mubeenun>."(Quran 38:70)

"Say: O people! I am ONLY A PLAIN WARNER to you <ana lakum nazeerum mubeenun>." (Quran 22:49)

I am commanded ONLY that I should serve the Lord of this city, Who has made it sacred, and His are all things; and I am commanded that I should be of these who submit; and that I should RECITE THE QUR'AN. Therefore whoever goes aright, he goes aright for his own soul, and whoever goes astray, then say: I am ONLY ONE OF THE WARNERS <inama ana minul munzareena>. (Quran 27:91-92)

"And they say: Why are not signs sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: The signs are only with Allah, and I am only a plain warner <innama ana nazeerum mubeenun>." (Quran 29:50)

"They say: When will this promise come true if you speak the truth? Say: The knowledge is with Allah only, and I am ONLY a plain warner <innama ana nazeerum mubeenun>."(Quran 67:26)

In no uncertain terms the Prophet has been made to emphasize his mission on this earth: He is only here to warn that consequences of bad actions will be bad, and to give good news that the consequences of good actions will be good. He is not here to establish Gods government or kingdom on earth (Gods government has always been on earth and will always be there whether there are Muslims in the world or not); and he is not here to make predictions of future wars.

The fact is that certain individuals are using falsehood to perpetrate war and bloodshed on earth. They promote these false ideas in the guise of Islam (Peace).These are the individuals against whom the Quran warns:

When it is said to them: Make not mischief on the earth, they say: Why, we only want to make peace! Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not. (Quran 2:11-12)

We should be aware of such people and always use the Quran the Furqan to distinguish what is right from what is wrong.

 

[gazoomartian]

A beautiful message from Zaid Hamid. Very straight forward.

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid [Official]To those who doubt me, mission: I have always called you towards Quran, Sunnah, Ishq e Rasul, Khilafat e Rashida, dignity,honour of Ummah, Iqbal and ideology, defense of Pakistan. Not a single word ever against Quran, alhamdolillah. I have never invited you towards myself. Judge every word. if it is according to Quran, then stand for Ummat e Rasul (sm)?? Dont let shaitan confuse you. May Allah have mercy upon you.

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thank you bro. We shall prevail. I also found these and I am posting here just for brother tabrez

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid: Alhamdolillah, Allah has humiliated the fasadis once again. They hide behind masks of religion and "fidayen e Rasul" and their links end up with CIA, RAW and takfiris who are against the very State of Pakistan, ideology of Islam. A filthy nexus of hate joined hands against this great sacred mission to revive and reclai...m Medina Sani. Know your enemy!! We stand firm, united and even more defiant now, alhamdolillah.

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid: Dear all, after the successfully passing takmeel e Pakistan resolution this page of ours got attacked. But alhamdolillah we fought and got our battle front back. Keep your spirits high and stay focused. Our Lah e amal will be set out soon for all. Mean while we created another page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Syed-Za.. ... 777?v=wall you join it also.

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

 

[gazoomartian]

As I personally support you for your vision nd ideology about pakistan.But let me
tell onething you should come clear of the mess you have done with yousaf kazzb.
I have listened your audio speech in which you hve been called sahabi.Dont play anymore
with the people who are patriotic as will religiouse.every one asked you and asking untill you
accept that have done wrong when you were with youaf kazzab.May be you have been hypnatised
by that peron or you had little knowledge about his ideology but you should apologise to the
whole country.Dont divert the quetions on yousaf kazzab.Condemn him and apologise thats
the way forwrd .otherwise people will make your peronlity controvercial.Come clean.you are
a good man but you did a sin and there is a remedy of apolgy to ALLAH and the muslims.

Did ZH said himself Sahabi or Kazab said him Sahabi?

If he called himself Sahabi, then it was wrong,

But if some else said him Sahabi, then it is different.

It is same if some one call u sahabi and u cannot do anything.

maulvis are comitting ana, ghroor, and takubbur. They just want Zaid to get down on his knees so the tahaffuz maulvis feel good. But then they will come up with some other demand.

these guys are agent of thse maulvis sitting in the offices of tahaffuz working at the minimum wages

 

[gazoomartian]

Mr. Hamid says that he doesn't say things that are against the Qur'an. According to the Qur'an, the Prophet did not know the Ghaib, but Mr. Hamid is promoting war with India mased on hadeeth that allege - against the Qur'anic testimony - that the Prophet made statements about the ghaib - the future.

I wanted to know if the Quran supports this claim and if there is any indication in the Quran that the Prophet made predictions about future events events of the ghaib or unknown and if it were part of the mission that was assigned to him by God. The following verses from the Quran give a completely different picture than what the speaker was implying in his speech:

Say [O Prophet]: It is not within my power to bring benefit to, or avert harm from, myself, except as God may please. And if I knew that which is beyond the reach of human perception, abundant good fortune-would surely have fallen to my lot, and no evil would ever have touched me. I am nothing but a warner, and a herald of glad tidings unto people who will believe. (Quran 7:188)

I was struck by this extremely plain and logical verse from the Quran. The prophet is made to say that if he did have knowledge of the future ghaib then no calamities would have befallen him and he would have all the treasures of the world. The history tells us that the Prophet faced severe hardships in his life, which he could have avoided had he known what is in the future.

The above verse is not the only verse where the Prophet is made to declare that he has no knowledge of the ghaib. There are several other verses emphasizing this point. Here are a few examples:

Say [O Prophet]: I do not say unto you, God's treasures are with me,; nor [do I say], I know the things that are beyond the reach of human perception; nor do I say unto you, Behold, I am an angel: I but follow what is revealed to me. Say: Can the blind and the seeing be deemed equal? Will you not, then, take thought? (Quran 6:50)

This declaration of the Prophet was not new. Prophets before him also made such declarations as well.

Prophet Noah said:

And I do not say unto you, God's treasures are with me; nor [do I say], I know the reality which is beyond the reach of human perception; nor do I say, Behold, I am an angel; nor do I say of those whom your eyes hold in contempt, Never will God grant them any good- for God is fully aware of what is in their hearts. Were I to speak thus, verily, I would indeed be among the evildoers. (Quran 11:31)

What is revealed to the Prophet of the ghaib is identified clearly in the Quran as the stories of the past prophets:

These accounts of something that was beyond the reach of thy perception We [now] reveal unto thee, [O Muhammad: for] neither thou nor thy people knew them [fully] ere this. Be, then, [like Noah,] patient in adversity - for, behold, the future belongs to the God-conscious! (Quran 11:49)

This account of something that was beyond the reach of thy perception We [now] reveal unto thee, [O Prophet:] for thou wert not with Joseph's brothers when they resolved upon what they were going to do and wove their schemes [against him]. (Quran 12:102)

It is sad that people invent stories that have no basis in the Quran and that defy the Quran. Since the Quran is the Furqan the criterion to distinguish between what is correct and what is false, we should always seek its help in determining if a certain idea or report or story - especially as it pertains to the Prophet - is correct or false.

Or have they a ladder by which they could [ascend to ultimate truths and] listen [to what is beyond the reach of human perception]? Let, then, any of them who have listened [to it] produce a manifest proof [of his knowledge]! (Quran 52:38)

There are traditions that describe the details of the last Day and the signs that herald the coming of the last Day. However, Only God knows the coming of the hour and It will come suddenly:

They will ask thee [O Prophet] about the Last hour: When will it come to pass? Say: Verily, knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone. None but He will reveal it in its time. Heavily will it weigh on the heavens and the earth; [and] it will not fall upon you otherwise than of a sudden. They will ask thee - as if thou couldst gain insight into this [mystery] by dint of persistent inquiry! Say: knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone; but [of this] most people are unaware. (Quran 7:187)

Verily, with God alone rests the knowledge of when the Last hour will come: and He [it is who] sends down rain; and He [alone] knows what is in the wombs: whereas no one knows what he will reap tomorrow, and no one knows in what land he will die, Verily. God [alone] is all-knowing, all-aware. (Quran 31:34)

People will ask thee about the Last hour. Say: knowledge thereof rests with God alone; yet for all thou knowest, the Last hour may well be near! (Quran 33:63)

In none of the above verses the Prophet is made to say that yes such and such events will indicate that the Last Hour is near. It is strange that the Book of God makes no such claims on behalf of the Prophet, and yet, the traditions are full of stories of details will happen near the time of Qiamat and these traditions show contrary to the reports in the Quran that the Prophet had knowledge of all these future events.
The fact is that it was not the mission of the Prophet to forecast or predict the future, and nowhere is he shown in the Quran to ever make any such claims about the ghaib. As opposed to that he is clearly made to identify his mission in the Quran in no uncertain terms so that the people after him do not invent false stories about his mission.

The Mission of the Prophet:
"You are NOTHING but a Warner <in inta illa nazeerun>. Surely We have sent you with the truth as a bearer of GOOD NEWS and a WARNER <basheerun wa nazeerun>, and there is not a people but a Warner has gone among them."(Quran 35:23-24)

"Do they not reflect that their companion has not unsoundness in mind; he is ONLY A PLAIN WARNER <Illa Nazeerum Mubeenun>." (Quran 7:184)

"Then, it may be that you will give up part of what is revealed to you and your breast will become straitened by it because they say: Why has not a treasure been sent down upon him or an angel come with him? You are ONLY A WARNER< <innama anta nazeerun>; and it is Allah that arranges all affairs." (Quran 11:12)

And We have not sent you BUT as a giver of good news and as a warner <wama arsalnaka illa mubashirun wa nazeerun>." (Quran 25:56)

"Say: I exhort you only to ONE thing, that rise up for Allah's sake in twos and singly, then reflect: there is no madness in your companion; he is NOTHING BUT A WARNER to you <hua illa nazeerun> before a severe chastisement." (Quran 34:46)

"Say: I am ONLY a warner <innama ana munzirun>, and there is no god but Allah, the One, the Subduer (of all)." (Quran 38:65)

"ONLY this has been revealed to me: that I am to give warning plainly <in yuHaiya illaiya illa annama ana nazeerum mubeenun>."(Quran 38:70)

"Say: O people! I am ONLY A PLAIN WARNER to you <ana lakum nazeerum mubeenun>." (Quran 22:49)

I am commanded ONLY that I should serve the Lord of this city, Who has made it sacred, and His are all things; and I am commanded that I should be of these who submit; and that I should RECITE THE QUR'AN. Therefore whoever goes aright, he goes aright for his own soul, and whoever goes astray, then say: I am ONLY ONE OF THE WARNERS <inama ana minul munzareena>. (Quran 27:91-92)

"And they say: Why are not signs sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: The signs are only with Allah, and I am only a plain warner <innama ana nazeerum mubeenun>." (Quran 29:50)

"They say: When will this promise come true if you speak the truth? Say: The knowledge is with Allah only, and I am ONLY a plain warner <innama ana nazeerum mubeenun>."(Quran 67:26)

In no uncertain terms the Prophet has been made to emphasize his mission on this earth: He is only here to warn that consequences of bad actions will be bad, and to give good news that the consequences of good actions will be good. He is not here to establish Gods government or kingdom on earth (Gods government has always been on earth and will always be there whether there are Muslims in the world or not); and he is not here to make predictions of future wars.

The fact is that certain individuals are using falsehood to perpetrate war and bloodshed on earth. They promote these false ideas in the guise of Islam (Peace).These are the individuals against whom the Quran warns:

When it is said to them: Make not mischief on the earth, they say: Why, we only want to make peace! Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not. (Quran 2:11-12)

We should be aware of such people and always use the Quran the Furqan to distinguish what is right from what is wrong.

one quick question: do you believe in ahadeeth?

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

 

[Raaz]

But if someone call you with bad name then you should immediatelly
stop him from doing so.And this is not a comman matter .It is very sensitive
matter and should be resolved once and for alll.If your name is Aslam and
cll you Akabar will you correct me or not.I posted earlier I like him muself but
when it comes to be regarding our Prophet SAW then it should be cleared.All
sahabis before islam were full of sins and when embraced islam they never refused
their past.If he did something wrong then should apologise its not something he should hesitate.

U r right.

But I think he has apologized a lot.

May be I am wrong.

One thing is clear that ZH was in Yousaf Kazab group.

and if some body is involved in some passionate activity, it takes time to come out of it. And after some time, he came out of it and negate all what his group have done.

Now he is teaching a new thing and we should keep our eyes open for sure.

 

[leboheme2005]

Mr. Hamid says that he doesn't say things that are against the Qur'an. According to the Qur'an, the Prophet did not know the Ghaib, but Mr. Hamid is promoting war with India mased on hadeeth that allege - against the Qur'anic testimony - that the Prophet made statements about the ghaib - the future.

I wanted to know if the Quran supports this claim and if there is any indication in the Quran that the Prophet made predictions about future events events of the ghaib or unknown and if it were part of the mission that was assigned to him by God. The following verses from the Quran give a completely different picture than what the speaker was implying in his speech:

Say [O Prophet]: It is not within my power to bring benefit to, or avert harm from, myself, except as God may please. And if I knew that which is beyond the reach of human perception, abundant good fortune-would surely have fallen to my lot, and no evil would ever have touched me. I am nothing but a warner, and a herald of glad tidings unto people who will believe. (Quran 7:188)

I was struck by this extremely plain and logical verse from the Quran. The prophet is made to say that if he did have knowledge of the future ghaib then no calamities would have befallen him and he would have all the treasures of the world. The history tells us that the Prophet faced severe hardships in his life, which he could have avoided had he known what is in the future.

The above verse is not the only verse where the Prophet is made to declare that he has no knowledge of the ghaib. There are several other verses emphasizing this point. Here are a few examples:

Say [O Prophet]: I do not say unto you, God's treasures are with me,; nor [do I say], I know the things that are beyond the reach of human perception; nor do I say unto you, Behold, I am an angel: I but follow what is revealed to me. Say: Can the blind and the seeing be deemed equal? Will you not, then, take thought? (Quran 6:50)

This declaration of the Prophet was not new. Prophets before him also made such declarations as well.

Prophet Noah said:

And I do not say unto you, God's treasures are with me; nor [do I say], I know the reality which is beyond the reach of human perception; nor do I say, Behold, I am an angel; nor do I say of those whom your eyes hold in contempt, Never will God grant them any good- for God is fully aware of what is in their hearts. Were I to speak thus, verily, I would indeed be among the evildoers. (Quran 11:31)

What is revealed to the Prophet of the ghaib is identified clearly in the Quran as the stories of the past prophets:

These accounts of something that was beyond the reach of thy perception We [now] reveal unto thee, [O Muhammad: for] neither thou nor thy people knew them [fully] ere this. Be, then, [like Noah,] patient in adversity - for, behold, the future belongs to the God-conscious! (Quran 11:49)

This account of something that was beyond the reach of thy perception We [now] reveal unto thee, [O Prophet:] for thou wert not with Joseph's brothers when they resolved upon what they were going to do and wove their schemes [against him]. (Quran 12:102)

It is sad that people invent stories that have no basis in the Quran and that defy the Quran. Since the Quran is the Furqan the criterion to distinguish between what is correct and what is false, we should always seek its help in determining if a certain idea or report or story - especially as it pertains to the Prophet - is correct or false.

Or have they a ladder by which they could [ascend to ultimate truths and] listen [to what is beyond the reach of human perception]? Let, then, any of them who have listened [to it] produce a manifest proof [of his knowledge]! (Quran 52:38)

There are traditions that describe the details of the last Day and the signs that herald the coming of the last Day. However, Only God knows the coming of the hour and It will come suddenly:

They will ask thee [O Prophet] about the Last hour: When will it come to pass? Say: Verily, knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone. None but He will reveal it in its time. Heavily will it weigh on the heavens and the earth; [and] it will not fall upon you otherwise than of a sudden. They will ask thee - as if thou couldst gain insight into this [mystery] by dint of persistent inquiry! Say: knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone; but [of this] most people are unaware. (Quran 7:187)

Verily, with God alone rests the knowledge of when the Last hour will come: and He [it is who] sends down rain; and He [alone] knows what is in the wombs: whereas no one knows what he will reap tomorrow, and no one knows in what land he will die, Verily. God [alone] is all-knowing, all-aware. (Quran 31:34)

People will ask thee about the Last hour. Say: knowledge thereof rests with God alone; yet for all thou knowest, the Last hour may well be near! (Quran 33:63)

In none of the above verses the Prophet is made to say that yes such and such events will indicate that the Last Hour is near. It is strange that the Book of God makes no such claims on behalf of the Prophet, and yet, the traditions are full of stories of details will happen near the time of Qiamat and these traditions show contrary to the reports in the Quran that the Prophet had knowledge of all these future events.
The fact is that it was not the mission of the Prophet to forecast or predict the future, and nowhere is he shown in the Quran to ever make any such claims about the ghaib. As opposed to that he is clearly made to identify his mission in the Quran in no uncertain terms so that the people after him do not invent false stories about his mission.

The Mission of the Prophet:
"You are NOTHING but a Warner <in inta illa nazeerun>. Surely We have sent you with the truth as a bearer of GOOD NEWS and a WARNER <basheerun wa nazeerun>, and there is not a people but a Warner has gone among them."(Quran 35:23-24)

"Do they not reflect that their companion has not unsoundness in mind; he is ONLY A PLAIN WARNER <Illa Nazeerum Mubeenun>." (Quran 7:184)

"Then, it may be that you will give up part of what is revealed to you and your breast will become straitened by it because they say: Why has not a treasure been sent down upon him or an angel come with him? You are ONLY A WARNER< <innama anta nazeerun>; and it is Allah that arranges all affairs." (Quran 11:12)

And We have not sent you BUT as a giver of good news and as a warner <wama arsalnaka illa mubashirun wa nazeerun>." (Quran 25:56)

"Say: I exhort you only to ONE thing, that rise up for Allah's sake in twos and singly, then reflect: there is no madness in your companion; he is NOTHING BUT A WARNER to you <hua illa nazeerun> before a severe chastisement." (Quran 34:46)

"Say: I am ONLY a warner <innama ana munzirun>, and there is no god but Allah, the One, the Subduer (of all)." (Quran 38:65)

"ONLY this has been revealed to me: that I am to give warning plainly <in yuHaiya illaiya illa annama ana nazeerum mubeenun>."(Quran 38:70)

"Say: O people! I am ONLY A PLAIN WARNER to you <ana lakum nazeerum mubeenun>." (Quran 22:49)

I am commanded ONLY that I should serve the Lord of this city, Who has made it sacred, and His are all things; and I am commanded that I should be of these who submit; and that I should RECITE THE QUR'AN. Therefore whoever goes aright, he goes aright for his own soul, and whoever goes astray, then say: I am ONLY ONE OF THE WARNERS <inama ana minul munzareena>. (Quran 27:91-92)

"And they say: Why are not signs sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: The signs are only with Allah, and I am only a plain warner <innama ana nazeerum mubeenun>." (Quran 29:50)

"They say: When will this promise come true if you speak the truth? Say: The knowledge is with Allah only, and I am ONLY a plain warner <innama ana nazeerum mubeenun>."(Quran 67:26)

In no uncertain terms the Prophet has been made to emphasize his mission on this earth: He is only here to warn that consequences of bad actions will be bad, and to give good news that the consequences of good actions will be good. He is not here to establish Gods government or kingdom on earth (Gods government has always been on earth and will always be there whether there are Muslims in the world or not); and he is not here to make predictions of future wars.

The fact is that certain individuals are using falsehood to perpetrate war and bloodshed on earth. They promote these false ideas in the guise of Islam (Peace).These are the individuals against whom the Quran warns:

When it is said to them: Make not mischief on the earth, they say: Why, we only want to make peace! Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not. (Quran 2:11-12)

We should be aware of such people and always use the Quran the Furqan to distinguish what is right from what is wrong.

one quick question: do you believe in ahadeeth?

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

One question for you also.......Do you believe in Qur'an, because if you do then the above should be quite clear and also the fact that our Prophet will not say or do anything that is not aligned with what is in Qur'an.

 

[wsher]

[size=150Dear All,

Main aaj yahan aik discussion kerna chahta hoon. Main chahoon ga ke aap sab urdu mein jawab dein ta ke jin logon ko English samajh nahi aati woh aasani se samajh sakein. Mere kuch sawal hain aap sab se jo main aik Musalman bhai ke tor pe poochna chahta hoon.

Kya yeh jaaiz hai ke kisi musalman pe kufr ka fatwa de diya jaye jab ke woh insane sab ke samney aa ke apne aqeedey ka ayelaan ker de?

Kya yeh jaaiz hai ke hum ucc insane ko sunaney ke baad be ucc ke khilaaf propaganda kerte rahein?

Kya yeh kisi Musalman ko ijaazat deta hai ke jo maamlaat Allah aur aik insane ke beech ke hain un mein dakhal andaazi karey?

Jab aik Musalman Khilafat ki baat karey Allah ke deen ki serparasti ki baat karey kya yeh jaaiz hai ke hum ucc ki mukhalfat karein?

Mera aik sawal jo sab se ahem hai Jaamat e Islami se hai ke inn logon ko yeh haq kiss ne diya key eh kisi insane pe kufr ka fatwa lagayein? Yeh khud tu Zardari jaise logon ke saath mil ke government banatey hain corruption mein be involve hain aur aaj tak in mein se kisi ne hakoomat ke khilaf awaz e haq buland nahi ki? Aaj tak in mein se kisi ne hakoomat se alag honey ke liye asteefa nahi diya? Inhon ne ghareef awam se saath kitna acha salook kiya hai?

Pehle tu yeh loog yeh daawa kerte rahe ke Zaid Hamid hakoomat ke saath mila hua hai lekin yeh baat kitni bewakoofana hai jo insane be aisi hakoomat ko support karey ga woh in ki so called democracy ki baat karey ga na ke Khilafat ki?

Aur yeh loog khud kyon bhaag bhaag ke gaye Shehbaz Sharif ke paas ta ke NOC cancel kerwaya jaye Zaid Hamid ke mission ka?

Let us suppose ager hum Zaid Hamid ka saath dete hain aur woh icc mulak mein Nizaam e Khilafat qaim ker de aur icc mulak ko Allah ke qanoon ke mutabik bana de tu humein aur kya chahye?

Zaid Hamid kya ker sakta hai icc government se zayada bura kya ho ga?

Akhari aur ahem sawal ager Zaid Hamid itna hi bura hai tu Indians ucc ke itne khilaaf kyon hain? Woh kyon mer rahe hain ucc ka naam sun sun ke?


Allah pe barosa karein mere bhai aur Allah sab ke dilon ka haal jananey wala hai kuch faisley Allah pe chorein. Jo maamley Allah aur aik insane ke dermiyaan hain ucc se door rahein. Apni neeyat theek ker lein aur Amal ka daar o midaar niyaton pe hai.

Allah hum sab ko hidayat de! Ameen

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[gazoomartian]

Mr. Hamid says that he doesn't say things that are against the Qur'an. According to the Qur'an, the Prophet did not know the Ghaib, but Mr. Hamid is promoting war with India mased on hadeeth that allege - against the Qur'anic testimony - that the Prophet made statements about the ghaib - the future.

I wanted to know if the Quran supports this claim and if there is any indication in the Quran that the Prophet made predictions about future events events of the ghaib or unknown and if it were part of the mission that was assigned to him by God. The following verses from the Quran give a completely different picture than what the speaker was implying in his speech:

Say [O Prophet]: It is not within my power to bring benefit to, or avert harm from, myself, except as God may please. And if I knew that which is beyond the reach of human perception, abundant good fortune-would surely have fallen to my lot, and no evil would ever have touched me. I am nothing but a warner, and a herald of glad tidings unto people who will believe. (Quran 7:188)

I was struck by this extremely plain and logical verse from the Quran. The prophet is made to say that if he did have knowledge of the future ghaib then no calamities would have befallen him and he would have all the treasures of the world. The history tells us that the Prophet faced severe hardships in his life, which he could have avoided had he known what is in the future.

The above verse is not the only verse where the Prophet is made to declare that he has no knowledge of the ghaib. There are several other verses emphasizing this point. Here are a few examples:

Say [O Prophet]: I do not say unto you, God's treasures are with me,; nor [do I say], I know the things that are beyond the reach of human perception; nor do I say unto you, Behold, I am an angel: I but follow what is revealed to me. Say: Can the blind and the seeing be deemed equal? Will you not, then, take thought? (Quran 6:50)

This declaration of the Prophet was not new. Prophets before him also made such declarations as well.

Prophet Noah said:

And I do not say unto you, God's treasures are with me; nor [do I say], I know the reality which is beyond the reach of human perception; nor do I say, Behold, I am an angel; nor do I say of those whom your eyes hold in contempt, Never will God grant them any good- for God is fully aware of what is in their hearts. Were I to speak thus, verily, I would indeed be among the evildoers. (Quran 11:31)

What is revealed to the Prophet of the ghaib is identified clearly in the Quran as the stories of the past prophets:

These accounts of something that was beyond the reach of thy perception We [now] reveal unto thee, [O Muhammad: for] neither thou nor thy people knew them [fully] ere this. Be, then, [like Noah,] patient in adversity - for, behold, the future belongs to the God-conscious! (Quran 11:49)

This account of something that was beyond the reach of thy perception We [now] reveal unto thee, [O Prophet:] for thou wert not with Joseph's brothers when they resolved upon what they were going to do and wove their schemes [against him]. (Quran 12:102)

It is sad that people invent stories that have no basis in the Quran and that defy the Quran. Since the Quran is the Furqan the criterion to distinguish between what is correct and what is false, we should always seek its help in determining if a certain idea or report or story - especially as it pertains to the Prophet - is correct or false.

Or have they a ladder by which they could [ascend to ultimate truths and] listen [to what is beyond the reach of human perception]? Let, then, any of them who have listened [to it] produce a manifest proof [of his knowledge]! (Quran 52:38)

There are traditions that describe the details of the last Day and the signs that herald the coming of the last Day. However, Only God knows the coming of the hour and It will come suddenly:

They will ask thee [O Prophet] about the Last hour: When will it come to pass? Say: Verily, knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone. None but He will reveal it in its time. Heavily will it weigh on the heavens and the earth; [and] it will not fall upon you otherwise than of a sudden. They will ask thee - as if thou couldst gain insight into this [mystery] by dint of persistent inquiry! Say: knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone; but [of this] most people are unaware. (Quran 7:187)

Verily, with God alone rests the knowledge of when the Last hour will come: and He [it is who] sends down rain; and He [alone] knows what is in the wombs: whereas no one knows what he will reap tomorrow, and no one knows in what land he will die, Verily. God [alone] is all-knowing, all-aware. (Quran 31:34)

People will ask thee about the Last hour. Say: knowledge thereof rests with God alone; yet for all thou knowest, the Last hour may well be near! (Quran 33:63)

In none of the above verses the Prophet is made to say that yes such and such events will indicate that the Last Hour is near. It is strange that the Book of God makes no such claims on behalf of the Prophet, and yet, the traditions are full of stories of details will happen near the time of Qiamat and these traditions show contrary to the reports in the Quran that the Prophet had knowledge of all these future events.
The fact is that it was not the mission of the Prophet to forecast or predict the future, and nowhere is he shown in the Quran to ever make any such claims about the ghaib. As opposed to that he is clearly made to identify his mission in the Quran in no uncertain terms so that the people after him do not invent false stories about his mission.

The Mission of the Prophet:
"You are NOTHING but a Warner <in inta illa nazeerun>. Surely We have sent you with the truth as a bearer of GOOD NEWS and a WARNER <basheerun wa nazeerun>, and there is not a people but a Warner has gone among them."(Quran 35:23-24)

"Do they not reflect that their companion has not unsoundness in mind; he is ONLY A PLAIN WARNER <Illa Nazeerum Mubeenun>." (Quran 7:184)

"Then, it may be that you will give up part of what is revealed to you and your breast will become straitened by it because they say: Why has not a treasure been sent down upon him or an angel come with him? You are ONLY A WARNER< <innama anta nazeerun>; and it is Allah that arranges all affairs." (Quran 11:12)

And We have not sent you BUT as a giver of good news and as a warner <wama arsalnaka illa mubashirun wa nazeerun>." (Quran 25:56)

"Say: I exhort you only to ONE thing, that rise up for Allah's sake in twos and singly, then reflect: there is no madness in your companion; he is NOTHING BUT A WARNER to you <hua illa nazeerun> before a severe chastisement." (Quran 34:46)

"Say: I am ONLY a warner <innama ana munzirun>, and there is no god but Allah, the One, the Subduer (of all)." (Quran 38:65)

"ONLY this has been revealed to me: that I am to give warning plainly <in yuHaiya illaiya illa annama ana nazeerum mubeenun>."(Quran 38:70)

"Say: O people! I am ONLY A PLAIN WARNER to you <ana lakum nazeerum mubeenun>." (Quran 22:49)

I am commanded ONLY that I should serve the Lord of this city, Who has made it sacred, and His are all things; and I am commanded that I should be of these who submit; and that I should RECITE THE QUR'AN. Therefore whoever goes aright, he goes aright for his own soul, and whoever goes astray, then say: I am ONLY ONE OF THE WARNERS <inama ana minul munzareena>. (Quran 27:91-92)

"And they say: Why are not signs sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: The signs are only with Allah, and I am only a plain warner <innama ana nazeerum mubeenun>." (Quran 29:50)

"They say: When will this promise come true if you speak the truth? Say: The knowledge is with Allah only, and I am ONLY a plain warner <innama ana nazeerum mubeenun>."(Quran 67:26)

In no uncertain terms the Prophet has been made to emphasize his mission on this earth: He is only here to warn that consequences of bad actions will be bad, and to give good news that the consequences of good actions will be good. He is not here to establish Gods government or kingdom on earth (Gods government has always been on earth and will always be there whether there are Muslims in the world or not); and he is not here to make predictions of future wars.

The fact is that certain individuals are using falsehood to perpetrate war and bloodshed on earth. They promote these false ideas in the guise of Islam (Peace).These are the individuals against whom the Quran warns:

When it is said to them: Make not mischief on the earth, they say: Why, we only want to make peace! Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not. (Quran 2:11-12)

We should be aware of such people and always use the Quran the Furqan to distinguish what is right from what is wrong.

one quick question: do you believe in ahadeeth?

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

One question for you also.......Do you believe in Qur'an, because if you do then the above should be quite clear and also the fact that our Prophet will not say or do anything that is not aligned with what is in Qur'an.

I dont think I sked YOU the question. Are you and tabrez one and the same?

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

 

[takjhank]

Dear wsher and other patriotics......

after watching a long debate on diferent channels, different news papers, different internet sites, different blogs etc.etc.
I just reached on a conclusion of Zaid Hamid's issue.

The person's who are against Zaid Hamid, They NEVER SEEN his any program on t.v. shows i.e. Economic Crises, Iqbal Ka Pakistan, Naimat ullah Shah Wali, or speeches regarding india, israel, usa, current GEO politics or any anty pakistani power's.
Ye wo log hain, jinho nay Zaid Hamid ka kabhi koi program nai dekha.. ye sirf us k khilaf hain tou is baat say k....... naam nihad molvi us k khilaf hain.. or specially wo molvi hazraat jin k ghar... Allah or Rasool S.A.W. k naam ko bech kar .. chal rahay hain...
Ye log sirf un molvion k pichay chal rahay hain..... jin k byaan, ek powerfull person k liye kuch or hotay hain or ek kamzor insaan k liye kuch or..
ye log sirf un molvion k kehnay par Zaid Hamid k khilaf propaganda kar rahay hain.. bagher sochay samjhay... jin molvion k zaadi mufaad wabasta hain.. is saray issue say..

if u go back some months before..... jab Zaid Hamid k baray may openly kisi ko kuch nai pata tha.. just rumors were surrounding... then log keh rahay thay k... ye Yousaf kazzab ka naib hay....
But ab media may aa kar, Zaid Hamid nay WAZEH (CLEARLY) ALAAN KAR DIA HAY K.. "AGAR YOUSAF ALI NAY NABUAT KA DAAWA KIA THA TOU MERA US SAY KOI TAALUQ NAI HAY"
But ye log ab demand kar rahay hain k zaid hamid sirf ye keh day k ... mujh say past may ghalati hui hay, kun k main yousaf kazzab ka saathi tha....
i know jab zaid hamid, ye ghalati bhi kaan jay ga .. phr bhi in logo nay us ko maaf nai karna....
bad kismati say hamaray musalman bhaio, especially paksitani musalman bhaio main wo log zada hain jin ka kisi achi soch say koi taaluq nai hay.. agar ye qoum (pakistani) qoum, achi soch ki maalik hoti, tou esay logo ko apnay saro par hukamran bana kar na bithati, jin ko ye khud gaalian day rahay hain.. what a great nation...
Unfortunatily, pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath ho gaya hay, jo hazrat moosa k era may, firoun k sath mili hui thi..
Unfortunatily, pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath ho gaya hay, jo hazrat isa a.s. k era may... un k mukhalifeen say mili hui thi
Unfortunatily, Pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath attach ho gaya hay jo hazrat ibraheem a.s. k era may namrood say mili hui thi
Unfortunatily, Pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath attach ho chuka hay jo hazrat nooh a.s. k era may.. pichay reh janay walo may say thi...
Unfortunatily, Pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath attach ho chuka hay jo hazrat loot a.s. k era may... un ki mukhalif thi...
Unfortunatily, Pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath attach ho gaya hay jo hazrat muhammad s.a.w. k era may abu jehel k sath mili hui thi..
Unfortunatily, Pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath attach ho gaya hay jo hazrat usmaan ghani k era may un k mukhalifeen say mili hui thi...
Unfortunatily, Pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath attach ho chuka hay jo hazrat imam hussain k era may `yazeed`k sath milay huay thay....
Unfortunatily, Pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath attach ho chuka hay jo hazrat imam ahmed bin hambel k era may Khalifa Haroon ur Rahid say milay huye thay...
Unfortunatily, Pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath attach ho chuka hay jinho nay Tipu Sultan ki peeth may khanjar ghonpa tha......
Unfortunatily, Pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath attach ho chuka hay jinho nay Allama Iqbal ka khawb sun kar kaha tha k ye tou deewanay ka khawb hay
Unfortunatily, Pakistani qoum ka taaluq us qoum k sath attach ho chuka hay jinho nay Pakistan bananay k khilaaf, Qaid e azam ki mukhalifat ki thi.. (un may bacha khan party sab say agay thi)

ye sab history ki baten hain...... jin ko jhutlaya nai jaa sakta.........

badkismati say.......... above mentioned nations, sab k sab log.. Allah ko mantay thay..... lekin bewaqoofi or emaan ki kamzori ki waja say un ko haq or sach nazar nai aata tha... lekin un ka injaam.... sab ko maloom hay..

esi hi bad kismat qoum hamari Pakistani qoum hay... jahan koi insaan ka bacha.. ooper aa hi nahi sakta... ap imran khan becharay ki hi halat dekh len.. saari dunia including pakistani awam, sab jantay hain k.. us k qoum par kya ehsaanaat hain, or wo kis calaber ka aadmi hay..
but jab bechara election larnay nikalta hay tou..... us ko utnay b vote nai miltay jin say wo apnay ansoo hi ponch sakay...
so, esi qoum k samnay Zaid Hamid jesa banda aa jay, tou wo usay kahan kabool karnay walay hain..
jis qoum ko adat pari ho... danday ki..... wo kisi ki ideology ko kahan pehchanay gi....

yehi waja hay k pakistan 62 years guzarnay k baad esi jaga par khara hay jahan par...... na pinay ka saaf paani milta hay, na bijli, na roti, na ata, na cheeni... etc.etc.

but phir bhi hamen mayoos nai hona chahye............ history batati hay k.. haq kabi jhuka nahi or Allah sirf haq or sach ka sath deta hay.. chahy wo hazaron k mukablay may 313 hon... chahey wo hazrat imam hussain k ginti k sathion k mukablay may lakon ki fouj ho..


So, agar Zaid Hamid, haq par hay tou us ko koi nuksan nai pohancha sakta.. or us ka hi bol bala ho ga.. bat sirf itni c ho gi k.... jo log zaid hamid ka sath den gay.. wo tipu sultan k sath kharay hon gay, or jo azmaay huye molvio ki baton main aayen gay (jin ko zaid hamid k khilaf fatwa tou dena ata hay lekin us ka naam thik say lena nai ata) wo anjanay may meer jaafar or meer sadiq k sath kharay hon gay, wo sirf pakistan ko hi nahi, poori ummat e muslimah ko nuksan pohancha rahay hain..

I challange all of those peoples, who r against Zaid Hamid, just go to his site.. brasstacks.pk" and watch his some programs, not all.... if u find anywhere in his any speech, where he claimed yousaf kazzab as a nabi or he deny that Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W as a last prophet, or where he preached any person as a nabi or any kind of nabi after our beloved last prophet, muhammad s.a.w....... i swear of Allah, i`ll never take his name from my toungue........


So, my dear muslim brother and sisters.. plz 1st of all see his all programs, then argue on him. if u don`t have time to see all those programs... plz don`t creticise on him... without knowing him....

 

[leboheme2005]

Mr. Hamid says that he doesn't say things that are against the Qur'an. According to the Qur'an, the Prophet did not know the Ghaib, but Mr. Hamid is promoting war with India mased on hadeeth that allege - against the Qur'anic testimony - that the Prophet made statements about the ghaib - the future.

I wanted to know if the Quran supports this claim and if there is any indication in the Quran that the Prophet made predictions about future events events of the ghaib or unknown and if it were part of the mission that was assigned to him by God. The following verses from the Quran give a completely different picture than what the speaker was implying in his speech:

Say [O Prophet]: It is not within my power to bring benefit to, or avert harm from, myself, except as God may please. And if I knew that which is beyond the reach of human perception, abundant good fortune-would surely have fallen to my lot, and no evil would ever have touched me. I am nothing but a warner, and a herald of glad tidings unto people who will believe. (Quran 7:188)

I was struck by this extremely plain and logical verse from the Quran. The prophet is made to say that if he did have knowledge of the future ghaib then no calamities would have befallen him and he would have all the treasures of the world. The history tells us that the Prophet faced severe hardships in his life, which he could have avoided had he known what is in the future.

The above verse is not the only verse where the Prophet is made to declare that he has no knowledge of the ghaib. There are several other verses emphasizing this point. Here are a few examples:

Say [O Prophet]: I do not say unto you, God's treasures are with me,; nor [do I say], I know the things that are beyond the reach of human perception; nor do I say unto you, Behold, I am an angel: I but follow what is revealed to me. Say: Can the blind and the seeing be deemed equal? Will you not, then, take thought? (Quran 6:50)

This declaration of the Prophet was not new. Prophets before him also made such declarations as well.

Prophet Noah said:

And I do not say unto you, God's treasures are with me; nor [do I say], I know the reality which is beyond the reach of human perception; nor do I say, Behold, I am an angel; nor do I say of those whom your eyes hold in contempt, Never will God grant them any good- for God is fully aware of what is in their hearts. Were I to speak thus, verily, I would indeed be among the evildoers. (Quran 11:31)

What is revealed to the Prophet of the ghaib is identified clearly in the Quran as the stories of the past prophets:

These accounts of something that was beyond the reach of thy perception We [now] reveal unto thee, [O Muhammad: for] neither thou nor thy people knew them [fully] ere this. Be, then, [like Noah,] patient in adversity - for, behold, the future belongs to the God-conscious! (Quran 11:49)

This account of something that was beyond the reach of thy perception We [now] reveal unto thee, [O Prophet:] for thou wert not with Joseph's brothers when they resolved upon what they were going to do and wove their schemes [against him]. (Quran 12:102)

It is sad that people invent stories that have no basis in the Quran and that defy the Quran. Since the Quran is the Furqan the criterion to distinguish between what is correct and what is false, we should always seek its help in determining if a certain idea or report or story - especially as it pertains to the Prophet - is correct or false.

Or have they a ladder by which they could [ascend to ultimate truths and] listen [to what is beyond the reach of human perception]? Let, then, any of them who have listened [to it] produce a manifest proof [of his knowledge]! (Quran 52:38)

There are traditions that describe the details of the last Day and the signs that herald the coming of the last Day. However, Only God knows the coming of the hour and It will come suddenly:

They will ask thee [O Prophet] about the Last hour: When will it come to pass? Say: Verily, knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone. None but He will reveal it in its time. Heavily will it weigh on the heavens and the earth; [and] it will not fall upon you otherwise than of a sudden. They will ask thee - as if thou couldst gain insight into this [mystery] by dint of persistent inquiry! Say: knowledge thereof rests with my Sustainer alone; but [of this] most people are unaware. (Quran 7:187)

Verily, with God alone rests the knowledge of when the Last hour will come: and He [it is who] sends down rain; and He [alone] knows what is in the wombs: whereas no one knows what he will reap tomorrow, and no one knows in what land he will die, Verily. God [alone] is all-knowing, all-aware. (Quran 31:34)

People will ask thee about the Last hour. Say: knowledge thereof rests with God alone; yet for all thou knowest, the Last hour may well be near! (Quran 33:63)

In none of the above verses the Prophet is made to say that yes such and such events will indicate that the Last Hour is near. It is strange that the Book of God makes no such claims on behalf of the Prophet, and yet, the traditions are full of stories of details will happen near the time of Qiamat and these traditions show contrary to the reports in the Quran that the Prophet had knowledge of all these future events.
The fact is that it was not the mission of the Prophet to forecast or predict the future, and nowhere is he shown in the Quran to ever make any such claims about the ghaib. As opposed to that he is clearly made to identify his mission in the Quran in no uncertain terms so that the people after him do not invent false stories about his mission.

The Mission of the Prophet:
"You are NOTHING but a Warner <in inta illa nazeerun>. Surely We have sent you with the truth as a bearer of GOOD NEWS and a WARNER <basheerun wa nazeerun>, and there is not a people but a Warner has gone among them."(Quran 35:23-24)

"Do they not reflect that their companion has not unsoundness in mind; he is ONLY A PLAIN WARNER <Illa Nazeerum Mubeenun>." (Quran 7:184)

"Then, it may be that you will give up part of what is revealed to you and your breast will become straitened by it because they say: Why has not a treasure been sent down upon him or an angel come with him? You are ONLY A WARNER< <innama anta nazeerun>; and it is Allah that arranges all affairs." (Quran 11:12)

And We have not sent you BUT as a giver of good news and as a warner <wama arsalnaka illa mubashirun wa nazeerun>." (Quran 25:56)

"Say: I exhort you only to ONE thing, that rise up for Allah's sake in twos and singly, then reflect: there is no madness in your companion; he is NOTHING BUT A WARNER to you <hua illa nazeerun> before a severe chastisement." (Quran 34:46)

"Say: I am ONLY a warner <innama ana munzirun>, and there is no god but Allah, the One, the Subduer (of all)." (Quran 38:65)

"ONLY this has been revealed to me: that I am to give warning plainly <in yuHaiya illaiya illa annama ana nazeerum mubeenun>."(Quran 38:70)

"Say: O people! I am ONLY A PLAIN WARNER to you <ana lakum nazeerum mubeenun>." (Quran 22:49)

I am commanded ONLY that I should serve the Lord of this city, Who has made it sacred, and His are all things; and I am commanded that I should be of these who submit; and that I should RECITE THE QUR'AN. Therefore whoever goes aright, he goes aright for his own soul, and whoever goes astray, then say: I am ONLY ONE OF THE WARNERS <inama ana minul munzareena>. (Quran 27:91-92)

"And they say: Why are not signs sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: The signs are only with Allah, and I am only a plain warner <innama ana nazeerum mubeenun>." (Quran 29:50)

"They say: When will this promise come true if you speak the truth? Say: The knowledge is with Allah only, and I am ONLY a plain warner <innama ana nazeerum mubeenun>."(Quran 67:26)

In no uncertain terms the Prophet has been made to emphasize his mission on this earth: He is only here to warn that consequences of bad actions will be bad, and to give good news that the consequences of good actions will be good. He is not here to establish Gods government or kingdom on earth (Gods government has always been on earth and will always be there whether there are Muslims in the world or not); and he is not here to make predictions of future wars.

The fact is that certain individuals are using falsehood to perpetrate war and bloodshed on earth. They promote these false ideas in the guise of Islam (Peace).These are the individuals against whom the Quran warns:

When it is said to them: Make not mischief on the earth, they say: Why, we only want to make peace! Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not. (Quran 2:11-12)

We should be aware of such people and always use the Quran the Furqan to distinguish what is right from what is wrong.

one quick question: do you believe in ahadeeth?

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

One question for you also.......Do you believe in Qur'an, because if you do then the above should be quite clear and also the fact that our Prophet will not say or do anything that is not aligned with what is in Qur'an.

I dont think I sked YOU the question. Are you and tabrez one and the same?

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

I think that you did not understand what I wrote. Let me explain: I did not answer for Tabrez, I am actually asking you a question, for which evidently you have no answer otherwise you would not be fencing about it.....take it easy .......breathe slowly and count backwards from 10.

 

[shagi]

Mr. Hamid says that he doesn't say things that are against the Qur'an. According to the Qur'an.................................................................................
We should be aware of such people and always use the Quran the Furqan to distinguish what is right from what is wrong.

I respect you point of view and vast research of quran. I know from where you are comming from, but I want to ask you one question, do you know who told us this is quran. He is Mohammad (SAW). He said this is 'word' of quran, we believed it. When he say something else how we will not believe him. It is ironic that in the history of islam there always remained a group or sect of muslims who always tried to get meaning directly from quran denying the life of prophet and his sayings. His life and sayings are a practical manifestation of quran. Quran does tell us ''say prayer'' but it does not tell us how to say prayer and how to bend in front of Allah. It all was told to us by prophet. Similarly there are many things in quran which were explained by prophet in his 'Ahadeths'. I agree that some ahadeths may be weak and some strong and quran would be ultimate testimony for it. But we cannot deny life of prophet and his sayings. Some sects of muslims are trying to derive islam directly from quran leaving ''Sunnah and Hadeth' which is a big mistake.

 

[shagi]

@ Tabrez

Who told you this is quran? His name was Mohammad (S.A.W). If you belive this then you should also belive on his sayings and his way of life which is a practical manifestation of quran. We cannot leave it alone and only rely on quran. Which would be a mistake. Quran says 'Say prayer' but it does not say how to say prayer and how bend in front of God. It is all becomes clear from Prophet's (S.A.W) sayings and life (Ahadeths and Sunnah)

 

[ProudPakistani]

Thanks Tabrez for sharing the collection of ayats from Quran regarding the concept of Ilm-e-ghaib....Some of those verses are so clear for one to understand.

Just a request to all brothers that be careful about commenting about Quran verses.

Quran is the primary source of knowledge and Ahadees and Seerat-u-Nabi (S.A.W) explain concepts in detail. For every matter we as Muslims should follow the sequence (as was once asked by Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) from some Sahabi (R.A.)):
1- See what Quran says
2- If you can't find it in Quran then see what the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) did
3- and lastly, Consultation among the Ulema what we call (Fiqa)

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Salam to all brothers from the kiwi land!!

 

[gazoomartian]

Mr. Hamid says that he doesn't say things that are against the Qur'an. According to the Qur'an, the Prophet did not know the Ghaib, but Mr. Hamid is promoting war with India mased on hadeeth that allege - against the Qur'anic testimony - that the Prophet made statements about the ghaib - the future.

I dont think I sked YOU the question. Are you and tabrez one and the same?

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

I think that you did not understand what I wrote. Let me explain: I did not answer for Tabrez, I am actually asking you a question, for which evidently you have no answer otherwise you would not be fencing about it.....take it easy .......breathe slowly and count backwards from 10.

Oh yes I did understand your question. Why dont you let tabrez answer my question? Or is it possible you and tbarez are the same, you just made a mistake and asked me being tabrez??? Using multiple Id might be agaisnt the terms of use of siasat.

I am still wiating to read the reply from tabrez to my question