Wiki leaks about Egypt.

rajakhanmd

Senator (1k+ posts)
The U.S. government has been supporting leading figures behind the violent protests in Egypt in a bid to promote regime change, it has been revealed.
A 2008 diplomatic cable leaked by the WikiLeaks site outlines how the U.S. State Department supported a pro-democracy activist and lobbied for the release of dissidents from custody.
The unnamed activist presented an 'unwritten plan for democratic transition in 2011' at a summit in New York and met with U.S. members of congress.
One aspect of the plan was for 'a transition to a parliamentary democracy before the scheduled 2011 presidential elections', the Jerusalem Post reported.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ported-dissident-ElBaradei.html#ixzz1CkIYd26t
 

A.Ali.T

Minister (2k+ posts)
The U.S. government has been supporting leading figures behind the violent protests in Egypt in a bid to promote regime change, it has been revealed.
A 2008 diplomatic cable leaked by the WikiLeaks site outlines how the U.S. State Department supported a pro-democracy activist and lobbied for the release of dissidents from custody.
The unnamed activist presented an 'unwritten plan for democratic transition in 2011' at a summit in New York and met with U.S. members of congress.
One aspect of the plan was for 'a transition to a parliamentary democracy before the scheduled 2011 presidential elections', the Jerusalem Post reported.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ported-dissident-ElBaradei.html#ixzz1CkIYd26t

Looks like someone is trying to undermine the revolution.
 

asmpk

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
The Great Game by Oria Maqbool Jan


Pls visit below thread, on Aljazeera Deception and Current Arab Situation

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?55313-The-current-Arab-Revolutions-(sponsered-by-Twitter-and-Facebook)-depicted-by-Sheikh-Imran-Hosein-in-2001-2003


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Faiza

Moderator
I will be happy if I am wrong about this, but in my view its all plan by so called supper power...

Only Allah knows the truth
 

hans

Banned
Israel shocked by Obamas betrayal of Mubarak Reuters

While many Egyptians are rallying against the USA for its historical support for Hosni Mubarak, many in Israel and other nations believe that Barack Obama has betrayed a long-time ally:
Israel shocked by Obamas betrayal of Mubarak
Reuters - Jan 31, 2011
If Egypts President Hosni Mubarak is toppled, Israel will lose one of its very few friends in a hostile neighborhood and President Barack Obama will bear a large share of the blame, Israeli pundits said on Monday.Political commentators expressed shock at how the United States as well as its major European allies appeared to be ready to dump a staunch strategic ally of three decades, simply to conform to the current ideology of political correctness
One comment by Aviad Pohoryles in the daily Maariv was entitled A Bullet in the Back from Uncle Sam.

Who is advising them, he asked, to fuel the mob raging in the streets of Egypt and to demand the head of the person who five minutes ago was the bold ally of the president an almost lone voice of sanity in a Middle East?
Obama on Sunday called for an orderly transition to democracy in Egypt, stopping short of calling on Mubarak to step down, but signaling that his days may be numbered. [nN30161335]
Jordan and Saudi Arabia see the reactions in the West, how everyone is abandoning Mubarak, and this will have very serious implications, Haaretz daily quoted one official as saying
Writing in Haaretz, Ari Shavit said Obama had betrayed a moderate Egyptian president who remained loyal to the United States, promoted stability and encouraged moderation.
To win popular Arab opinion, Obama was risking Americas status as a superpower and reliable ally.
Throughout Asia, Africa and South America, leaders are now looking at what is going on between Washington and Cairo.

Everyone grasps the message: Americas word is worthless America has lost it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/31/us-egypt-israel-usa-idUSTRE70U53720110131

The USA President is in a tough spot. At minimum, US President Obama is trying to publicly distance himself from Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. On the one hand, Egyptians on the street are blaming the USA and him for supporting the Mubarak regime for so long. On the other hand, Hosni Mubarak is a long-time supporter of certain aspects of American policy in the region. Many act like the Obama Administration is confused and/or has flip-flopped on this:
On Thursday, Vice President Biden proclaimed Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to be a friend of the United States and rejected the suggestions that Mubarak should step down or was a dictator. On Friday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sounded a little tougher, telling Mubarak not to use violence against his countrys protestors and to restore Internet communications that he had cut off. But, alas, democracy did not pass her lips. (The closest she came: As President Obama said yesterday, reform is absolutely critical to the well-being of Egypt.) Throughout the day, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley tweeted missives, such as, We hope they choose a path of dialogue and reform.By late in the day, it was safe to say no one quite understood what the Obama administrations position was. So the president sallied forth with yet another statement. He assured us that he was monitoring the situation and called upon the Egyptian authorities to refrain from any violence against peaceful protesters.
I would add one more suggestion: find a new foreign policy team; Obamas current one is egregiously inept. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-turn/2011/01/on_egypt_obama_offers_too_litt.html
While many in Israel seem to act like President Obama is now betraying Hosni Mubarak, other sources suggest that that Barack Obama was dissatisfied with what was going on in Egypt for a long time and wanted the type of change that many in Egypt now seem to be publicly asking for.
Yet, what it appears (to me at least) is that the USA President suspects that he will do best politically by publicly switching to the side/objectives of the protesters. And while this is likely to be more consistent with Barack Obamas internal views, it certainly does send a message to world leaders that even if they take very tough and unpopular steps in their own countries which agree with USA interests that the USA will not support them if the going seems a little tough for the USA.
And more people are wondering about that. This strongly suggests that the USA is losing more of whatever moral authority it has had diplomatically and that it will face unprecedented crises in the future when its allies decide to distance themselves from it.
Without national repentance, the days of the USA are numbered, irrespective of what happens with Hosni Mubarak.
 

rajakhanmd

Senator (1k+ posts)
A U.S. official confirmed to NBC News that former U.S. ambassador to Egypt Frank Wisner delivered Obama's message Monday that Mubarak should not run again.
The New York Times reported Wisner told Mubarak that Obama was not sending a blunt demand to step aside now, but offering firm counsel that he should make way for a reform process that would culminate in free and fair elections in September for a new Egyptian leader.​

President Barack Obama said he told Mubarak after the speech that the transition to a new government "must begin now."
Meanwhile, hundreds defiantly camped out in Cairo's central plaza. Pro-Mubarak demonstrators reportedly descended on the capital and in Alexandria, where gunfire was heard.
In a 5-minunte pre-recorded televised address to Egypt that was translated into English, Mubarak said it had never been his intention to run for re-election in September.
"I have spent enough time serving Egypt," he said.
Obama said he spoke with the Egyptian leader on the telephone after the speech and "he recognizes that the status quo is not sustainable and a change must take place."
The president he told Mubarak that "an orderly transition must be meaningful, must be peaceful and must begin now."​


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41363935/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The U.S. government has been supporting leading figures behind the violent protests in Egypt in a bid to promote regime change, it has been revealed.
A 2008 diplomatic cable leaked by the WikiLeaks site outlines how the U.S. State Department supported a pro-democracy activist and lobbied for the release of dissidents from custody.
The unnamed activist presented an 'unwritten plan for democratic transition in 2011' at a summit in New York and met with U.S. members of congress.
One aspect of the plan was for 'a transition to a parliamentary democracy before the scheduled 2011 presidential elections', the Jerusalem Post reported.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ported-dissident-ElBaradei.html#ixzz1CkIYd26t


Beg to differ Raja Bhai
Statu Quo in Egypt suited US and Israel

Only scenario I can imagine that US is behind this uprising may be that Obama Administration failing in Afghanistan now wants the World to defocus from there and draw attention to Middle East. That sounds like one in thousand shot as this would be without the Blessings of American Establishment and confronting Neo Heawks. There is one such example that our very own General Musharraf rigged the elections in favor of MMA to create a leverage for his own survival and he succeeded in pleading his case with Dick Cheney.
Is Obama Administration taking a very big risk in backing this uprising in Egypt and breaking Status Quo to create a balancing force in Egypt to bring Israel to a realistic End Game. This may get out of American Hands if Muslim Brotherhood suddenly starting getting momentum in Egyptian cities.
 

rajakhanmd

Senator (1k+ posts)
@GeoG:

Thanks for the comments.

I came across this news while surfing the internet. This gives you just another angle to keep in mind. It might not be the case and you may be right. But for some reason, I personally believe there is more to this regime change than oppression, unemployment etc. And there are many indicators that you can find in different news, analysis, articles. For example,

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=258405

Whatever is the case, hopefully this would bring positive results for Egyptians.
 

mrcritic

Minister (2k+ posts)
Another perspective, not endorsing it completely, but some of it sounds plausible to what Sheikh Imran Hosein has said few years ago. Please read.

In order to make sense of the day’s headlines, we need to recall the big picture. Long ago, the London-based Masonic Jewish (Illuminati) central banking cartel realized that to enslave humanity, they needed to use guile.
Their unvarnished goal would meet universal opposition, so instead they fostered myriad false conflicts in order to divide and conquer.
Their main strategy was to use their control of both sides to foment gratuitous but extremely costly wars. The First World War, Second World War, Cold War, Korean and Vietnam Wars etc. were all means of increasing their power and wealth while debilitating humanity in countless ways, including death, destruction, demoralization and debt.
The Illuminati may be setting the stage for a new world war. The template for the popular uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt (and potentially Jordan and Saudi Arabia) is the 1979 Iranian Revolution. Here the Illuminati replaced a loyal puppet, the Shah Reza Pahlavi with the “fanatical” Islamist Ayatollah Khomeini resulting in the trademarked “Clash of Civilizations.” This is documented in Robert Dreyfuss’ book “Hostage to Khomeini.”
Now they may be replacing loyal puppet Hosni Mubarak with a Muslim Brotherhood/ Islamist regime, ratcheting up the tension.
All our “leaders” are essentially stuffed suits. They’re puppets. The masses do not rebel unless they’re organized and financed by Masonic bodies like the Muslim Brotherhood who serve the Illuminati bankers. This is what happened in the American, French and Russian Revolutions.
All of this is bad news for the ordinary Jew-on-the-Street in Tel Aviv. It presages another major war in the Middle East, possibly heralding a world war.
It is not bad news for the leaders of Israel or America, who are Freemasons just like the Muslim Brotherhood. These “leaders” want a deadly conflagration: Masonic Islamists vs. Masonic Zionists! They’re all satanists sticking it to humanity.
Have you noticed how calmly Israel has accepted a Hezbollah government in Lebanon? All the better for war!
“The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World,” Masonic Grand Commander Albert Pike wrote in 1871.
“Agentur” means “agent.” The same term is used in another Illuminati document “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” which dates from the same period.
The key point here is these wars are contrived. They are “caused by agentur of the Illuminati” on both sides. These agents owe their first loyalty to the Illuminati not to their countries.
Their aim is to destroy their respective countries and profit from the carnage. Pike continues: “The [third] war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Muslim Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.”
The rest of the world will be drawn in. “Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…”
At this point they will be constrained to accept the Luciferian one-world government.
So this is the hidden agenda which explains our leaders’ reactions to the demonstrations in Cairo. The Israelis give support to Mubarak because it is the kiss-of-death. But the Americans discreetly signal for him to go, better to advance the Illuminati’s lethal hidden agenda.
 

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