Why was Karachi peaceful before 2008?

[sirajfareed]

Read this interesting post on why Karachi burned from 1992 to 1999 and then 2008 onwards but experienced both unprecedented economic development and unparalleled peace during 1999-2007: http://karachitargetkilling.wordpress.com/k/

 

[sirajfareed]

There is no ethnic conflict in Karachi

Source: http://karachitargetkilling.wordpress.com/m/

It is often said, mostly by those who live outside ofKarachi, that theKarachiviolence is semblance of an ethnic conflict between the Muhajirs and Pukhtuns. However, this theory ofKarachiunrest being a result of a larger ethnic strife seems flawed because:

• Had such strife existed, it should have had at least some manifestation before this military and civilian regime came to power; the very fact that it only surfaced during the present regime negates the existence of an intrinsic ethnic conflict in the city.
• The pattern of such unrest to occur in periodic bouts coinciding with political events is suggestive of a political as against an ethnic dynamic of such unrest.

Lastly, the very notion of an ethnic conflict suggests that ordinary people from the two communities are fighting each other, which of course is incorrect as hundreds of thousands of people from each community work together in complete harmony with each other on a daily basis and also how hundreds of thousands of pukhtuns travel to and live in Urdu-speaking residential localities where they not only work but live as watchman, drivers, shopkeepers, laborers, etc

 

[sngilani]

Current rules are involved in target killings. We need to remove them to stop it. Otherwise it will continue. Current government leaders are not true leaders of Pakistan. They came in power as a result of NRO. They are dummies and stooges. Real power is somewhere else who does wants Pakistan to drown in destabilization. It will help to put a case forward to de-nuke this nation. Current government (ANP, PPP and MQM) are working against the national interests of Pakistan.

 

[cashkash]

mqm ko power day do aaram aa jaiay ga ,mqm can not live without power , to get power they can do any thing .just pray for them .

 

[Raaz]

It was Mush who planted the seeds of MMA in Sarhad , and killed Bugtti in Balochistan for unrest and MQM in Karchi.

Just to grow unrest in Pakistan.

Today we are harvesting that crop.

All three places are killing station today... and Zardari is expanding them...

 

[hans]

Any one heard about The Pendulum Effect?

Or Boomerang? What you throw out, comes back with a Defined force.

 

[Luv.Pakistan]

I know the answer......Because PPPP was not in govt.(omg)

 

[nthanwy]

Excellent article for people whose hearts and minds are blinded by their hatred for urdu speaking.We already know this open secret that whenever ppp is in power there is blood shed in Karachi.

 

[nthanwy]

I doubt that my reply will be posted as it did not happen last time.However I am giving a second chance to this website.

 

[lafatah]

One simple answer.

First there was one gang taking bhatta and grabbing land. Now there are 3 gangs taking bhatta and grabbing land. Now the pie of the first gang has shrunk, so they are retaliating. The 2 new ones are in power so they also want to enhance thier share.

With most Govt organizations being privatised, there is less room for political parties to pay for thier workers (especially the Jiyala), therefore they have found this another more rewarding way. MQM has already proved that Bhatta and Land Grabbing is a very good way to earn money. This way you dont have to do curroption to fund your activities hence less coverage. ANP is just giving MQM competetion emulating thier succesfully decade old tried and tested formula.


Ghar Khali Karana Hai, go to the sector Incharge. But now ANP does it cheaper.

So while, Aman Comitte, Khidmat Khalq Committee (lol what irony, look at the names) and ANP are fighting to territorial rights, the stupid karachiites are dying. Yes stupid. They voted these mercenaries into power and probably are gonna vote them again.

Its not a complex matter. Pretty simple actually.

 

[gazoomartian]

initially up until 2008, MQM and -H were doing the killings.

Then MQM saw Pathans and Baloch (B/P) growing over 18 and saw losing vote banks because Bloch and Pathans werent MQMers, so MQM started killing pathans. The killings were actually meant to be force to drive out B/P people of the MQM strongholds.

MQM elites underestimated pathans, then Pathans had to protect themselves and get even, so they started attacking MQM. hence the mess we are in now

by the way, Syed Shahi seems to have disappeared these days

 

[woofer]

initially up until 2008, MQM and -H were doing the killings.

Then MQM saw Pathans and Baloch (B/P) growing over 18 and saw losing vote banks because Bloch and Pathans werent MQMers, so MQM started killing pathans. The killings were actually meant to be force to drive out B/P people of the MQM strongholds.

MQM elites underestimated pathans, then Pathans had to protect themselves and get even, so they started attacking MQM. hence the mess we are in now

by the way, Syed Shahi seems to have disappeared these days

When you don't know anything about Karachi , please dont put your stupid comments. Stay in Canada enjoy your walfare.

 

[woofer]

mqm ko power day do aaram aa jaiay ga ,mqm can not live without power , to get power they can do any thing .just pray for them .

Power is their right. They win in Karachi by vast majority.

 

[gazoomartian]

When you don't know anything about Karachi , please dont put your stupid comments. Stay in Canada enjoy your walfare.

hahahah did i hit the nerve? I must be right then

by the way, whats walfare?. If you meant welfare, I am not qualified for a welfare, just FYI

 

[FlyHigh]

Any one heard about The Pendulum Effect?

Or Boomerang? What you throw out, comes back with a Defined force.

Hans you are correct it is happening in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Palestine and Kashmir. sooner or later the outside forces will be kicked out.(clap)

How is life in Zimbabwe after the departure of the white guys?

 

[FlyHigh]

When you don't know anything about Karachi , please dont put your stupid comments. Stay in Canada enjoy your walfare.

These are not stupid coments but facts, the sooner you realise the better it will be for the folks in Karachi..Woof woof

 

[FlyHigh]

When you don't know anything about Karachi , please dont put your stupid comments. Stay in Canada enjoy your walfare.

Educated jahil it is not Walfare, it is welfare. Do you consider Bhatta collection Walfare or Welfare;)

 

[elipst]

initially up until 2008, MQM and -H were doing the killings.

Then MQM saw Pathans and Baloch (B/P) growing over 18 and saw losing vote banks because Bloch and Pathans werent MQMers, so MQM started killing pathans. The killings were actually meant to be force to drive out B/P people of the MQM strongholds.

MQM elites underestimated pathans, then Pathans had to protect themselves and get even, so they started attacking MQM. hence the mess we are in now

by the way, Syed Shahi seems to have disappeared these days

Haha.... its not so simple as that. PPP armed the gangsters in Lyari and gave them government support to carry out their criminal activities.This led to them spreading their criminal web into surrounding areas of Lyari which support MQM. This bought them conflict with MQM. It was never Baloch vs MQM, it was Gangsters vs MQM.

MQM cannot lose their vote bank, there have been better ideas than simple population dynamics. The influx of Pushtuns into Karachi put undue pressure on its resources which led to conflict in Orangi much like it was when the Afghans came in the 80s. Its not because of vote bank and all that, MQM isnt all that stupid to consider this as a viable means of increasing their vote bank.

ANP cant win more than 2 seats in Karachi, I feel next time with Haqiqi members joining MQM they will lose their Landhi seat as well. No where else does ANP have the numbers to pull another seat. All Pushtuns dont support ANP, they vote for JI, JUI, PPP, even MQM, in spite of all the propaganda.

 

[woofer]

Educated jahil it is not Walfare, it is welfare. Do you consider Bhatta collection Walfare or Welfare;)

Aby tu welfare per zindagi tu guzar rahy es lie tuje ye spelling achi tera yad hy. Pata nai kasy ajate hain ye pindoon Canada main. Canada main boj bane.

 

[sngilani]

Secterianism was institutionalised in 80's which is now converted into intuitionalised format. A very broad approach is needed now to reduce this secterian prejudice in Pakistan which may include education and learning of mutual tolerance. This can only happen if institutionalisation of secterianism is discouraged.