Why is taking orders from ISI a crime in Pakistan but taking orders from international agencies a ma

MAzfarS

Citizen
You have accepted that army could also be controlled by whatever the means are, so how could you then trust them???

The thing is that they are also human, have their own limitations and priorities and weaknesses.

I didnt get you there. Do you mean that the army has its limitations and priorities and weakness? And how could we trust ISI? we need to trust ISI as they are a state organization for our own national interest. I think Raw,CIA,FBI,MI6 or Mossad are not for our state interest right.
 

amir_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I didnt get you there. Do you mean that the army has its limitations and priorities and weakness? And how could we trust ISI? we need to trust ISI as they are a state organization for our own national interest. I think Raw,CIA,FBI,MI6 or Mossad are not for our state interest right.

Tell me how many times and in what capacities these organizations that you mentioned intruded in their respective state's affairs.

I love my country and my army, but I would like my army to not intrude in my state's affair, the way they have been doing for the last 65 years, nothing good came out of that, we have gone down not risen up. So after all these experimentation I have concluded that the army should do the job they have been hired to do.

Its not your fault, we have been raised with the propaganda that army is a pious bunch of angels.

I am not sure of your political affinity, but let me assure you one thing, if ik comes in power, you would see similar things happening with him, he would be branded as a Jewish agent etc etc and the same people would be behind that, divide and rule!!!
 

MAzfarS

Citizen
Tell me how many times and in what capacities these organizations that you mentioned intruded in their respective state's affairs.

I love my country and my army, but I would like my army to not intrude in my state's affair, the way they have been doing for the last 65 years, nothing good came out of that, we have gone down not risen up. So after all these experimentation I have concluded that the army should do the job they have been hired to do.

Its not your fault, we have been raised with the propaganda that army is a pious bunch of angels.

I am not sure of your political affinity, but let me assure you one thing, if ik comes in power, you would see similar things happening with him, he would be branded as a Jewish agent etc etc and the same people would be behind that, divide and rule!!!

I have said it before that yes military shouldn't be doing politics upfront but they should just stay at the back as a supportive role. Whatever organization I named do not come in and start to dictate their terms but if they do something they do it from behind the political scene but then they are said to be friends of state not the enemy of the state which ISI has been labelled as most of the times nowadays.

I haven't said that army is a pious bunch of angel neither that they are not corrupt individuals, they would be the second most corrupt people after these politicians or third most after the judicial system but my point is whatever they are they should be labelled as a protector of the state not brandished as enemies of the state. We just make ourselves weaker in front of the international community by openly criticising them.

If IK comes in and sticks to his core values that he is propagating then he will not be branded as such because he would be internally strong. These people who were overthrown by armies till now have been weak soulless people with no integrity either for themselves or the nation. Though this is just a hopeful thought and reality can be as you say it would be.
 

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