Who wants to Come to Germany for Study. ??? ------ Spartacus

[Vitamin_C]

Your religion is the reason why you and your fellow Kashmiris and Palestinians are in a mess. While Jews Muslims Christians fight it out with each other the secular world will move hundreds of years ahead of you.

i would say muslims should move to palestine or kashmir where muslims are needed to librate rather then moving for materilistic gains we should chosse for religious gains

 

[Vitamin_C]

​I hope you are not planning on making Muhajir province there.

dutch and deutsch are two different langauges .

dutch is a langauge of Holland ( Niederland ) --- and deutsch is a langauge of Germany ( Deutschland )

 

[Raiwind-Destroyer]

your religion is the reason why you and your fellow kashmiris and palestinians are in a mess. While jews muslims christians fight it out with each other the secular world will move hundreds of years ahead of you.

living in western country does not make any one smart now a days we are feeding our kids with this materlistic knowledge thats why muslims are divded becuase they too greedy to leave the love of this world behind and help m,uslims arou nd the b world yes you are right we our the problem creators and we have to fix it ourselves

 

[Vitamin_C]

I do not look at people as Muslim Christian Jew or Atheist I look at them as fellow human beings, and there is nothing wrong with living a useful life contributing to the society you live in whether its a civilized society in the West or some slum in Gaza. And there is nothing wrong in seeking materials to provide for your children and family and making sure they are well fed, well educated and healthy. Mans first and foremost duty is to earn his living, rather than getting into useless bullshit and being brainwashed and used for someone elses goals.

living in western country does not make any one smart now a days we are feeding our kids with this materlistic knowledge thats why muslims are divded becuase they too greedy to leave the love of this world behind and help m,uslims arou nd the b world yes you are right we our the problem creators and we have to fix it ourselves

 

[Spartacus]

living in western country does not make any one smart now a days we are feeding our kids with this materlistic knowledge thats why muslims are divded becuase they too greedy to leave the love of this world behind and help m,uslims arou nd the b world yes you are right we our the problem creators and we have to fix it ourselves

You stupid self sitting in LAHOURE and wishing to destroy RAIWIND and giving lecture to be a good muslim who can fight in in Afghanistan and Arab Nation .
It is look like you a RAW Agent with the Name of MUSLIM living in LAHOURE ( @ Admin can you confirm he is in LAHOURE :)

It is look like he is from RAW ( Cyber war Team )

 

[Raiwind-Destroyer]

i do not look at people as muslim christian jew or atheist i look at them as fellow human beings, and there is nothing wrong with living a useful life contributing to the society you live in whether its a civilized society in the west or some slum in gaza. And there is nothing wrong in seeking materials to provide for your children and family and making sure they are well fed, well educated and healthy. Mans first and foremost duty is to earn his living, rather than getting into useless bullshit and being brainwashed and used for someone elses goals.

you are right there is nothi ng wrong with that but this is the time where people are performing hajj while thier brothers are getting killed in thier neibouring countries is that what islam teaches we are so much indluged in materilistic gains that we have forghot our duties as humans you are right ALLAH is the the creator of all humans not just muslims

 

[Raiwind-Destroyer]

You stupid self sitting in LAHOURE and wishing to destroy RAIWIND and giving lecture to be a good muslim who can fight in in Afghanistan and Arab Nation .
It is look like you a RAW Agent with the Name of MUSLIM living in LAHOURE ( @ Admin can you confirm he is in LAHOURE :)

It is look like he is from RAW ( Cyber war Team )

DESTROYING THE HOSUE OF EVIL IS A GOOD DEED NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT AND YOU CLAIMING TO BE A MUJHAIR AND DIVINDING PAKISTANYI COMMUNITY just like your terrorist leader Altaf

 

[Vitamin_C]

Islam teaches alot of nonsense which should not be taught. If we were to follow Islam we would still have Slavery, amputations for theft, quartering people using camels. Execution and sex slavery of prisoners of war. Legalizing spousal rape. etc. Saudi Arabia had slavery legal until 1960s, they were forced by west to ban it, its only because of secular thinking since modern time that we do not have such heinous ideas in most of our societies anymore. Thats why I said your religion is the source of your problems it makes you dumb and its dangerous for society. You do not know what you are talking about all the freedoms you have today even in Pakistan is because of secularist ideas of West, if you were born in a society that followed medieval Islam like most Middle east countries did until the 20th century then you wouldn't even be on the internet on a politics forum.

you are right there is nothi ng wrong with that but this is the time where people are performing hajj while thier brothers are getting killed in thier neibouring countries is that what islam teaches we are so much indluged in materilistic gains that we have forghot our duties as humans you are right allah is the the creator of all humans not just muslims

 

[Raiwind-Destroyer]

islam teaches alot of nonsense which should not be taught. If we were to follow islam we would still have slavery, amputations for theft, quartering people using camels. Execution and sex slavery of prisoners of war. Legalizing spousal rape. Etc. Saudi arabia had slavery legal until 1960s, they were forced by west to ban it, its only because of secular thinking since modern time that we do not have such heinous ideas in most of our societies anymore. Thats why i said your religion is the source of your problems it makes you dumb and its dangerous for society. You do not know what you are talking about all the freedoms you have today even in pakistan is because of secularist ideas of west, if you were born in a society that followed medieval islam like most middle east countries did until the 20th century then you wouldn't even be on the internet on a politics forum.

thats where people are wrong and fed by media that islam is what they show in middle east thats wrong

islam actually makes you a true human being and shows you the purpose of life

and whatr we see in saudia is not islam its under a greedy regime whose god is only money and power and they have used islam
i can say this if today makkah dont make money for house of sauds they will ditch makkah and madina it means nothing to them

 

[Vitamin_C]

I do not have a TV in my house, and I do not read newspaper. I read the Quran in detail with translation, read Hadith, read the bible and old testament, and I think its all rubbish. We are brainwashed to believe it from a young age some of us are unfortunate to be born in a Hindu family some of us in Christian family and some in Muslim family and poor kids are brainwashed since childhood without reaching a mature enough age to make their decision after doing their own research. I have done my honest research and from what you are saying I assume that you have never read the Quran and understood it with translation, because if you had you would laugh reading whats written in it. From what I have read there are a few good things here and there in the Quran if you wish to cherry pick but most of it very dangerous stuff and it does not show anyone how to be a true human being, it teaches you to be a monster, very few people today would think that its right to cut someones hands off for stealing a few dates from a tree or keeping prisoners of war as slaves. Humanity only comes from rational discussion like we are having here rather than having absolute morality. Alot of our humanity and freedoms come from the former.

thats where people are wrong and fed by media that islam is what they show in middle east thats wrong

islam actually makes you a true human being and shows you the purpose of life

and whatr we see in saudia is not islam its under a greedy regime whose god is only money and power and they have used islam
i can say this if today makkah dont make money for house of sauds they will ditch makkah and madina it means nothing to them

 

[Raiwind-Destroyer]

I do not have a TV in my house, and I do not read newspaper. I read the Quran in detail with translation, read Hadith, read the bible and old testament, and I think its all rubbish. We are brainwashed to believe it from a young age some of us are unfortunate to be born in a Hindu family some of us in Christian family and some in Muslim family and poor kids are brainwashed since childhood without reaching a mature enough age to make their decision after doing their own research. I have done my honest research and from what you are saying I assume that you have never read the Quran and understood it with translation, because if you had you would laugh reading whats written in it. From what I have read there are a few good things here and there in the Quran if you wish to cherry pick but most of it very dangerous stuff and it does not show anyone how to be a true human being, it teaches you to be a monster, very few people today would think that its right to cut someones hands off for stealing a few dates from a tree or keeping prisoners of war as slaves. Humanity only comes from rational discussion like we are having here rather than having absolute morality. Alot of our humanity and freedoms come from the former.

did you know most of the laws you are enjoying in Canada are backed by Christianity faith if you read the history of laws how did they came up with all the laws you would know most came into being through religion

the problem is no muslim country actually follows islam to show the true colors of faith most Muslim countries are corrupt to the core and I hav read quran it teaches peace and love for humanity nothing else

the issue is are we wiling t live under islamic laws no because we are nt getting ay instant gratification from it islam teaches patience no one wants to wait they want to g for things that can give them instant satisfaction right away and hence we are mislead easily

 

[Raiwind-Destroyer]

I do not have a TV in my house, and I do not read newspaper. I read the Quran in detail with translation, read Hadith, read the bible and old testament, and I think its all rubbish. We are brainwashed to believe it from a young age some of us are unfortunate to be born in a Hindu family some of us in Christian family and some in Muslim family and poor kids are brainwashed since childhood without reaching a mature enough age to make their decision after doing their own research. I have done my honest research and from what you are saying I assume that you have never read the Quran and understood it with translation, because if you had you would laugh reading whats written in it. From what I have read there are a few good things here and there in the Quran if you wish to cherry pick but most of it very dangerous stuff and it does not show anyone how to be a true human being, it teaches you to be a monster, very few people today would think that its right to cut someones hands off for stealing a few dates from a tree or keeping prisoners of war as slaves. Humanity only comes from rational discussion like we are having here rather than having absolute morality. Alot of our humanity and freedoms come from the former.

did you know Canada killed slaved and imprisoned most natives and the last school where they brutalized most natives was closed in 1991
and yet we accept tht cruelty and still live in canada because Canada provides us with good pay and good livn high standards and wealthy life styl and in return that makes us hapy but at the same time you break the law in Canada you will no longer be able to have a good job because you have a criminal record hence out of fear you perform good and be a good citizen some people don't learn their lesson have harsh sentences like in usa there is death sentence and so on so forth

just like that islam comes with own rules if you follow them you hav good path if you don there is punishment but we are not wiling to accept Islamic punishment because its not giving us a happy life like Canada is right

 

[kayawish]

I will again say stop coming to Germany , Germany will become shiit in 1-2 years believe me. People are already getting against Muslims since Germany allowed all Syrian Refugees in country.Movements like PEGIDA are becoming popular day by day specially in East Germany.Several Auslanders have been attacked by Neo Nazis in East Germany recently (West Germany is safer till now ) Germany is crazy country some time it makes immration tough like hell and now they open immigration for all people who are war affected like yemens and Syrians.They all are coming to Germany and they will take German jobs and thus Germany will become caos.If you wana come to Europe then best will be Scandinavian countries ...Otherwsie if you really wana come to this Fcked up country then come to WEST GERMANY and if you know Pashto then contact me I will put you in a job where you will get about 3000 euros for 3 weeks (Saturday/Sunday no holidays) as Roll spieler for US ARMY in Bayern.But you must speak PASHTO and English OR Arabic and ENGLISH language , German / URDU / PUNJABI not required

 

[Spartacus]

Who wants to Come to Germany for Study. ??? ------ Spartacus

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?350865-Who-wants-to-Come-to-Germany-for-Study-Spartacus

 

[Spartacus]

I will again say stop coming to Germany , Germany will become shiit in 1-2 years believe me. People are already getting against Muslims since Germany allowed all Syrian Refugees in country.Movements like PEGIDA are becoming popular day by day specially in East Germany.Several Auslanders have been attacked by Neo Nazis in East Germany recently (West Germany is safer till now ) Germany is crazy country some time it makes immration tough like hell and now they open immigration for all people who are war affected like yemens and Syrians.They all are coming to Germany and they will take German jobs and thus Germany will become caos.If you wana come to Europe then best will be Scandinavian countries ...Otherwsie if you really wana come to this Fcked up country then come to WEST GERMANY and if you know Pashto then contact me I will put you in a job where you will get about 3000 euros for 3 weeks (Saturday/Sunday no holidays) as Roll spieler for US ARMY in Bayern.But you must speak PASHTO and English OR Arabic and ENGLISH language , German / URDU / PUNJABI not required

Dear Kayawish ,
Do not get angry with my question please ---

1 ) You are getting 3000 Euro/ 3 weeks .
2 ) If East Germany is not good for you --- You can shift to West Germany
3) Most probably you are a student and getting your degree in your wish field.

4 ) PEGIDA is a political issue --- In which Country there is no political issue ?

5 ) About Refugees --- Is it bad that German Government is helping those People ? What should they do with REFUGEES which will make you happy ?
They did good with them and you are presenting in a negative way :(

If Germany is too bad , Why are you still here ?

 

[Tyrion Lannister]

Germany does not worth it unless you want to study mechanical engineering, in other fields UK US and CAN unis are still far better in ranking and in attracting the job market around the globe, nothing is like getting enrolled in Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Stanford, Washington DC, MIT, carnegie mellon. Harverd achen and berlin are goon unis but still lack behind.

 

[kayawish]

Dear Kayawish ,
Do not get angry with my question please ---

1 ) You are getting 3000 Euro/ 3 weeks .
2 ) If East Germany is not good for you --- You can shift to West Germany
3) Most probably you are a student and getting your degree in your wish field.

4 ) PEGIDA is a political issue --- In which Country there is no political issue ?

5 ) About Refugees --- Is it bad that German Government is helping those People ? What should they do with REFUGEES which will make you happy ?
They did good with them and you are presenting in a negative way :(

If Germany is too bad , Why are you still here ?

yara Bhai I didn't said Germany is bad but it will become soon :) the job requires Pashto OR Arabic language which I know you cant speak.You get about 2,400 Euro with Lohnstuer Klasse 4.Every month the job is for 3 weeks (some times full month) only.its called rollplayer for US ARMY.I did it 3-4 months but then my mom didn't allowed me anymore as she thinks that Americans will brainwash my head and use me against Pakistan. (I am serious not joking)

http://www.us-statisten.de/about.html

but I don't think they will take students since students not allowed full time job ,Anyway job is only a joke and u get good money...

you also took afghan refugees in 80s and see what happened ? pakistah fcked up and I am pashtoon saying this about afghans and in Germany its all different (color , religion , etc) Refugees will bring more problems to Germany you will see that in 2-3 years.

 

[Captain Safdar]

jay tainu baghair study day German degree mill jaiy tay aaakhain gha Jogia taira kamal a??? (from Axact Group) :P

 

[optimistic]

The fee part is true, only if you are interested in Business Admin Or Economics, such courses are offered in english mostly by private unis with huge fee. but most of the unis which are govt/semi govt do not ask for any tuition fee, for Engineering students there are hundreds of programms offered without any tuition fee.
For instance in my uni i only used to pay fee for semester ticket+library funds(250 euro app)valid for 6 months for travelling in almost the whole state. That include all the buses, trams, and trains (exception of fast trains)

visit www.daad.de

 

[amber123]

no fees is total wrong interpretation :angry_smile:

No Tuition Fee as per se is right, however German Universities ensure/as a requisite from candidates to deposit around 10,000 plus Euro in German banks and deduct a fixed amount per month as accommodation charges, so by the end of 1-2 years studies period they almost charge 10,000 plus euros per student.