White Sister Found Prophet Muhammed (S)s Name In Bible [Emotional]

[The_Choice]

 

[GreenMaple]

Dr. Zakir is amazing; he a human super computer!

 

[Vitamin_C]

Zakir Naik is a liar and his teachings are misleading and poisoning the youth. People should not be following such charlatans in this age of information technology when you can easily do a google search and see how dishonest he is.

Dr. Zakir is amazing; he a human super computer!

 

[GreenMaple]

Zakir Naik is a liar and his teachings are misleading and poisoning the youth. People should not be following such charlatans in this age of information technology when you can easily do a google search and see how dishonest he is.

What did he lie about; quote some examples?

 

[Wakeel]

Zakir Naik is a liar and his teachings are misleading and poisoning the youth. People should not be following such charlatans in this age of information technology when you can easily do a google search and see how dishonest he is.

بہت ہی گھٹیا سوچ ہے زلیل شخص تمھاری، ہر وقت اسلام مخالف فلسفہ ہی بکتے رہتے ہو، تمھارا ہر اسلامی پوسٹ پر نیگیٹو کمنٹ کرنا ضروری ہے؟

 

[kambohguy]

I am no great fan of Dr .Naik but the truth is hundreds of people have accepted islam through him..... Humans make mistakes..but he is doing a great service to islam. May Allah help him.

 

[Reason]

So what is the point here? The fact that a non-muslim converted to Islam, or the fact that she is white?

 

[Vitamin_C]

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He uses the ignorance of his followers to his advantage in his arguments. For example a boy asked him about evolution, he twisted the meaning of the meaning of scientific theory to mean the word theory in lay man's terms to undermine its actual meaning as his followers do not understand the meaning of scientific theory or the difference between theory, fact or hypothesis.

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He often lies about the translation of Arabic in the Quran and make up his own meanings for example in one verse he used a word and said it means ostrich egg to prove that Quran says the Earth is spherical when in fact that word meant the place where a bird lays egg and not the egg itself. This interpretation of Naik was in direct contradiction of Surah Kahf, Sahih Hadith and tafsirs of the Quran of the first 400 years of Islam.

?There is much more if you look for it, but the bottom line is his teachings are dishonest/pseudo scientific, its teaching Pakistani kids ideas that directly contradict with established scientific facts. This will make our country even more backward.

What did he lie about; quote some examples?

 

[Vitamin_C]

Religion is something that has an effect on the future of our country, negative or positive. If you insult people who criticize ideas that have a great impact on the country how will the country change? I used logic in my criticism, you responded with emotions and insults. Unfortunately this world is run using logic not emotions.

بہت ہی گھٹیا سوچ ہے زلیل شخص تمھاری، ہر وقت اسلام مخالف فلسفہ ہی بکتے رہتے ہو، تمھارا ہر اسلامی پوسٹ پر نیگیٹو کمنٹ کرنا ضروری ہے؟

 

[GreenMaple]

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He uses the ignorance of his followers to his advantage in his arguments. For example a boy asked him about evolution, he twisted the meaning of the meaning of scientific theory to mean the word theory in lay man's terms to undermine its actual meaning as his followers do not understand the meaning of scientific theory or the difference between theory, fact or hypothesis.

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He often lies about the translation of Arabic in the Quran and make up his own meanings for example in one verse he used a word and said it means ostrich egg to prove that Quran says the Earth is spherical when in fact that word meant the place where a bird lays egg and not the egg itself. This interpretation of Naik was in direct contradiction of Surah Kahf, Sahih Hadith and tafsirs of the Quran of the first 400 years of Islam.

?There is much more if you look for it, but the bottom line is his teachings are dishonest/pseudo scientific, its teaching Pakistani kids ideas that directly contradict with established scientific facts. This will make our country even more backward.

Don't underestimate the intelligence of his listeners. The Quran in many instances is open to interpretation, so he has his own angle on some subjects but within intent and spirit of the Quran. However you cannot say that he is wrong. You and me may interpret the same thing in a different way. That's why we have so many 'tafseers' by different Islamic scholars.

 

[Vitamin_C]

Quran is not open to interpretations. Quran says that in many places that it is not difficult to understand. The only people who say that Quran is hard to understand are the ones who don't want you to read it. When you keep it open to interpretations people can make their own version of the religion by basically making up stuff.

Its clear language to understand.
But if you are in doubt you can:
1) read sahih hadith and see if it matches with what the quran is saying about that topic.
2) read the authentic tafsir from Arabia, from the time of Muhammad or just a few centuries after him. Do not read tafsir from mullahs of subcontinent of 19th or 20th century, most of that stuff is made up.
3) Check other instances or verse of the quran where that phrase or word is use to see what it means there to interpret its meaning.

Zakir Naik skips all of those and make up his own meaning, which will directly conflict with what the Quran says in other parts of the Quran, and also go against Sahih Hadith.

Don't underestimate the intelligence of his listeners. The Quran in many instances is open to interpretation, so he has his own angle on some subjects but within intent and spirit of the Quran. However you cannot say that he is wrong. You and me may interpret the same thing in a different way. That's why we have so many 'tafseers' by different Islamic scholars.

 

[GreenMaple]

Quran is not open to interpretations. Quran says that in many places that it is not difficult to understand. The only people who say that Quran is hard to understand are the ones who don't want you to read it. When you keep it open to interpretations people can make their own version of the religion by basically making up stuff.

Its clear language to understand.
But if you are in doubt you can:
1) read sahih hadith and see if it matches with what the quran is saying about that topic.
2) read the authentic tafsir from Arabia, from the time of Muhammad or just a few centuries after him. Do not read tafsir from mullahs of subcontinent of 19th or 20th century, most of that stuff is made up.
3) Check other instances or verse of the quran where that phrase or word is use to see what it means there to interpret its meaning.

Zakir Naik skips all of those and make up his own meaning, which will directly conflict with what the Quran says in other parts of the Quran, and also go against Sahih Hadith.

The Quran is very precise on some issues, e.g. family law, inheritance, judgement day, life after death, oneness of the Creator etc. but less precise (or flexible) on some other issues, e.g. political system, financial economic system etc. , and hence open to interpretation. As for Dr. Naik, I believe he is very knowledgeable on religious issues. You may have problem with him, but I and many others have no issues.

 

[Vitamin_C]

The Quran is very precise on some issues, e.g. family law, inheritance, judgement day, life after death, oneness of the Creator etc. but less precise (or flexible) on some other issues, e.g. political system, financial economic system etc. , and hence open to interpretation. As for Dr. Naik, I believe he is very knowledgeable on religious issues. You may have problem with him, but I and many others have no issues.

Despite the fact that I demonstrated he is a liar and misguides his followers?

 

[The_Choice]

[h=2]"Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment." (The Noble Quran 2:6-7)[/h]

 

[Aadi Ali]

Our religion islam is very simple but thanks to Our So Called Ulam-e-Deen who thinks only they know the true meaning of Quran and Hadith mold it's meanings according to there own benefits (cry)(cry)
May Allah Bless you Sister.......Your Journey Begins Now.....:biggthumpup:

 

[Everus]

I am no great fan of Dr .Naik but the truth is hundreds of people have accepted islam through him..... Humans make mistakes..but he is doing a great service to islam. May Allah help him.

ذاکر نائٹ نان مسلم کو اسلام کی دعوت دے کر مسلمان نہیں بناتا بلکہ وہابیت کی تبلیغ کر کے وہابی بنا دیتا ہے۔ ذاکر نائٹ کے دھوکے میں آئے بیچارے لوگ خود کو مسلمان سمجھنے لگ پڑتے ہیں لیکن درحقیقت وہ گمراہی کا شکار ہو کر وہابی بنتے ہیں جس کی وجہ سے ان پر حقیقی اسلامی تعلیمات کا بھی کوئی اثر نہیں ہوتا کیونکہ وہ اپنے آپکو قادیانیوں کیطرح مسلمان ہی سمجھنے لگتے ہیں۔
علما اسلام کا ماننا تو یہ ہے کہ اگر لوگ ڈاکٹر ذاکر نائٹ کے دین (وہابیت) کو قبول کرنے کی بجائے غیرمسلم ہی رہتے تو شاید کبھی کسی نیک مسلمان یا اصلی مولانا کے ذریعے انکے مسلمان ہونے کا دروازہ کھلا رہتا جو ڈاکٹر ذاکر نائٹ کی وجہ سے ہمیشہ ہمیشہ کیلئے بند ہو جاتا ہے۔

I am no great fan of Dr .Naik but......

بٹ، آپکی باتوں سے تو لگتا ہے آپ ذاکر نائٹ کے بہت بڑے فین ہیں۔ آپ یہ غلط بیانی کیے بغیر ڈاکٹر نائٹ کا قصیدہ لکھتے تو اثر بھی ہوتا۔​

 

[GreenMaple]

Despite the fact that I demonstrated he is a liar and misguides his followers?

You made your point, and I made mine. We are not going anywhere with this, and therefore there is no point in dragging it further. We can agree to disagree.

 

[Mughal1]

Zakir Naik is a liar and his teachings are misleading and poisoning the youth. People should not be following such charlatans in this age of information technology when you can easily do a google search and see how dishonest he is.

Dear vitamin c, I do not think it is right for us to question sincerity of anyone because it is very, very difficult if not impossible to know how sincere one is in what one says if one seems to express oneself sincerely. Yes dr zakir naik does make silly claims at times but that could be due to his lack in knowledge about things and not necessarily because he is dishonest or a liar.

regards and all the best.

 

[Mughal1]

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He uses the ignorance of his followers to his advantage in his arguments. For example a boy asked him about evolution, he twisted the meaning of the meaning of scientific theory to mean the word theory in lay man's terms to undermine its actual meaning as his followers do not understand the meaning of scientific theory or the difference between theory, fact or hypothesis.

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He often lies about the translation of Arabic in the Quran and make up his own meanings for example in one verse he used a word and said it means ostrich egg to prove that Quran says the Earth is spherical when in fact that word meant the place where a bird lays egg and not the egg itself. This interpretation of Naik was in direct contradiction of Surah Kahf, Sahih Hadith and tafsirs of the Quran of the first 400 years of Islam.

?There is much more if you look for it, but the bottom line is his teachings are dishonest/pseudo scientific, its teaching Pakistani kids ideas that directly contradict with established scientific facts. This will make our country even more backward.

Dear vitamin c, you are right dr zakir naik does make a serious mistake here by mixing up things. For my explanation of things please see [/url], HERE.

 

[Mughal1]

Quran is not open to interpretations. Quran says that in many places that it is not difficult to understand. The only people who say that Quran is hard to understand are the ones who don't want you to read it. When you keep it open to interpretations people can make their own version of the religion by basically making up stuff.

Its clear language to understand.
But if you are in doubt you can:
1) read sahih hadith and see if it matches with what the quran is saying about that topic.
2) read the authentic tafsir from Arabia, from the time of Muhammad or just a few centuries after him. Do not read tafsir from mullahs of subcontinent of 19th or 20th century, most of that stuff is made up.
3) Check other instances or verse of the quran where that phrase or word is use to see what it means there to interpret its meaning.

Zakir Naik skips all of those and make up his own meaning, which will directly conflict with what the Quran says in other parts of the Quran, and also go against Sahih Hadith.

Dear vitamin c, here you have made a very serious mistake by saying the quran is not open to interpretations. It is upon to interpretations of individuals because individuals can never understand anything at all without their minds interpreting things for them. It is because all human beings are born not knowing a thing and by directly interacting with things people learn sense of makings proper sense of things. This is how human beings came to know things about this universe as well as God.

The problem is not with interpretation of the quran by individuals but on what sound foundation they base their interpretations of the quran. To know way of knowing things is more important than actually knowing something. This is why regardless someone interpreted the quran 1400 years ago or today makes no difference if the way used by the interpretor is sound and the conclusion of the interpretor does not contradict rules of wisdom or concrete realities.

regards and all the best.