Western Powers Are Involved In Terrorism In Pakistan, ISI Chief Tells Zardari Govt.

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Staff Report

ISLAMABAD: ISI chief Lt Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha said Thursday that the policy against terrorism should be co-related with the national interest.

The foreign powers are involved in terrorism and destabilization of the country, said DG ISI.

During a briefing in the National Security Committee session headed by Senator Raza Rabbani, DG ISI Ahmed Shuja Pasha said that the western powers are involved in the terror activities of the country.

The US policy against terrorism is under consideration and the changes will be brought with time in accordance with the national interest, he said.

According to sources the committee members has demanded the clear changes in the policies against terrorism. SAMAA

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[GeoG]

Mehvish Ali & Company,
Good Opportunity for you to claim that DG ISI is a spokes person of Taliban.

 

[Joker]

Title of the Thread is Wrong , Actual Title is

Western Powers Along With MQM Are Involved In Terrorism In Pakistan

 

[psycho1]

Title of the Thread is Wrong , Actual Title is

Western Powers Along With MQM Are Involved In Terrorism In Pakistan

Yes on some extend your right. because when our own people are involved that beome diffiuclt for any army to deaft them. becaue enimies are enimies but Monafiq Hyporates are difficult to find out. and these are in our lines. hamian apni hi safooon ko dekhana hoga. koon kon choor hia oor agent hia.

 

[samy99]

There is no doubt that the west is involved in pak terrorism but what about the PML-N who is also backing the banned outfit in pak.The militants captured in qadianis worship places and Manawan police bombing are still in jail,nothing happened to them.why not a quick solution to their elimination take place so we get rid of terrorism.Not a single militant is hanged in 8 years so why complain the foreigners when big snakes are sitting in the govt.PML-N and police is backing the militants and not taking concrete steps to stop them .PML-N wants them for their adverseries but militants have become disaster for the country.Punjab govt first did't admit the militant problem when it was shown then they said we will take action-when? when pakistan will be divided into 5 countries? shahbaz sharif get real and take action against the militants before action is taken against you.people have very valuable and solid proof that your govt is funding and backing the banned militants who attacked srilankan team and moon market in lahore. Now the blood is on your neck-get yourself clear from this allegation. Pak should have terrorist courts consists of 3 retd judges who decide the cases in two weeks and finish them. In karachi,MQM and PPP are involved in a tug of war to get the turf in karachi whereas the innocents are being killed like animals and no one cares.Its about time for the military to get tough with the centre and punjab govt and give them the warning about the law and order situation.Most of it is created by the backing of these govts. A clean up operation neede in punjab and sind to eliminate the militants ,corrupt,land mafias and other criminals.you cannot wait for ever to restore the peace in the country.

 

[GeoG]

There is no doubt that the west is involved in pak terrorism but what about the PML-N who is also backing the banned outfit in pak.The militants captured in qadianis worship places and Manawan police bombing are still in jail,nothing happened to them.why not a quick solution to their elimination take place so we get rid of terrorism.Not a single militant is hanged in 8 years so why complain the foreigners when big snakes are sitting in the govt.PML-N and police is backing the militants and not taking concrete steps to stop them .PML-N wants them for their adverseries but militants have become disaster for the country.Punjab govt first did't admit the militant problem when it was shown then they said we will take action-when? when pakistan will be divided into 5 countries? shahbaz sharif get real and take action against the militants before action is taken against you.people have very valuable and solid proof that your govt is funding and backing the banned militants who attacked srilankan team and moon market in lahore. Now the blood is on your neck-get yourself clear from this allegation. Pak should have terrorist courts consists of 3 retd judges who decide the cases in two weeks and finish them. In karachi,MQM and PPP are involved in a tug of war to get the turf in karachi whereas the innocents are being killed like animals and no one cares.Its about time for the military to get tough with the centre and punjab govt and give them the warning about the law and order situation.Most of it is created by the backing of these govts. A clean up operation neede in punjab and sind to eliminate the militants ,corrupt,land mafias and other criminals.you cannot wait for ever to restore the peace in the country.

Sweeping statements and rather surprising coming out from Samy99.

Knowing inner circles of Govt Punjab, they have not started operation against militants or banned outfits but have not supported them either. Recent media news originating from Salman Taseer was an endevaour by PPP to project their foes as Pro Militants in the eyes of their masters - US and Europe, as PLMn spokesperson David Milliband is out of scene now.

Punjab Police neither have the resources nor stomach to take on these outfits with force but only ARMY can do this operation, if ever. And part of army still feels, wrongly in my opinion, these outfits as strategic assets for an eventual war with India. That time has passed now and there is going to be no gurella war in Kashmir, they had been trained for years. Army does not want to overstreatch itself on many fronts, despite all efforts by Rehman Malik and his masters, ISI chief has named today.

Only way out from this mess to create lots and lots of jobs in the country and give jobs to these poor people from remote areas which has proven to be a very fertile land for these Jihadi outfits. Stop sponsoring people like Moulvi Diesel as and when whatever he makes while in Govt, a big portion of this goes to funding these Jihadi elements.

What a shame for this Govt, it has three extreme sides - JUI, MQM and ANP all at throat with each other but still united for the LUST of power. MQM barks all the time against Taliban but has no shame in sitting in cabinet with Moulvi Diesel - Jad e Amjad of Taliban and vice versa.

If there ever is to be an operation, in Punjab, it has to be an Army led operation and without army support Sharifs can just beg for peace. But this scenario is not for ever as army has taken care of some extreme elements in DG and DI Khan and it seems to be extended to Bahalpur and Bahawal Nagar.

We must start this operation only when we are fully ready, half hearted operation will create another MQM in North Punjab, a Fasciest Tolla and Blackmailing Gang with no political conviction.

 

[samy99]

GeoG,you did describe some positives and negative aspects of my post-thanks for that.I am totally exhausted by the precarious condition of the country and may be i blew my cork but as a pakistani i understand everyone is very upset about the way country is going through.I am not impressed by gov salman taseer because he was never my mentor.we should must pay attention to what someone is saying is relevant or just bull shit.salman taseer did made some very good points about the militants in punjab which is real so we should not deny that.punjab CM said no militancy in punjab whereas most of the militants are from south and central punjab because we had the proof and captured them.ISI chief shuja pasha today admitted that west is involved in terrorism but punjab is not doing its job.In Dawn yesterday,people got caught in Qadianis worship places were given cell phones to talk to their friends and thats how they got free from the hospital.What kind of security is this or complacency.I also read police is not serious to go after these people,why?Something wrong somewhere? shahbaz sharif did donate 10 crores to these people,may be for some humanity works but its not working.I have my information-all the politcial parties PPP, PML-N, PML-Q, MQM, ANP and JUI-F have criminals in their ranks.This information is 100% true.I dont want to go into detail but will say if the govt wants peace,they can do it within 3 months.Put an honest police IG and clean up the police deptt first then go after the militants and other criminals.Police have all the information about their whereabouts but we do need honesty and will power.How China got over this problem , a cultural revolution thats what we need otherwise how long our sisters and mothers will keep on crying for their loved ones who die in bomb blasts-someone have to answer them.I made my point directly and indirectly,i hope you got it.

 

[GeoG]

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I agree with all your points except police operation. If there is to an operation, it has to planned thourougly and sphearheaded by military rather than police.

No one in his sane frame of mind can defend the acts of terrorism, be it at Datta Darbar or Qadyani Mosque, someone killed is a human being, Muslim or otherwise. The militants outfits now operate more like mercenaries and unfortunately they belong to our country so once defeated with might, we can't kill them all or throw them out and this should be an important point to factor in before firing the first bullet.

Thanks for your input as I keenly read your comments and value the same.

 

[samy99]

dear GEOG,nice of you for responding,i know you are as much worried about the country as like me and others.The point is who is gonna shoot the first bullet.Intellegence agencies were using them now they have political patronage with the police backing.If these are removed ,most of the problem will be solved.I know only military opertion can handle this situation because police can only chitrol the civilians,not able to fight or defend themselves.someone have to take the first step to stop this nonsense for ever. I do respect shahbaz sharif and appreciate his administrative works but dont like his denial and soft attitude towards the militants,regards.

 

[mrBonga]

Yes on some extend your right. because when our own people are involved that beome diffiuclt for any army to deaft them. becaue enimies are enimies but Monafiq Hyporates are difficult to find out. and these are in our lines. hamian apni hi safooon ko dekhana hoga. koon kon choor hia oor agent hia.

Bitter truth.

 

[psycho1]

^
I agree with all your points except police operation. If there is to an operation, it has to planned thourougly and sphearheaded by military rather than police.

No one in his sane frame of mind can defend the acts of terrorism, be it at Datta Darbar or Qadyani Mosque, someone killed is a human being, Muslim or otherwise. The militants outfits now operate more like mercenaries and unfortunately they belong to our country so once defeated with might, we can't kill them all or throw them out and this should be an important point to factor in before firing the first bullet.

Thanks for your input as I keenly read your comments and value the same.

It must be Police and spy agnencis operation rather than Amry. Army will make mass, army is only useful for killing not for captureing. when we will realise this. why we want all the times army to be used. thats the reason we have great problms in Pakistan becaz of the use of Army everywhree for every single reason. First police, ISI, FBI etc for good solution. Army is for fight only............

 

[Ammar isb]

This is absurd; every U.S action is eyed with suspicion. The U.S assistance is crucial for the social reforms which our state is incapable to do. What do you have to say about the brainwashing by Taliban as clearly they are now shaping the national narrative?
Over 7.2 billion is being given in collation support fund which deals only with the military operations. From helicopters to F-16 and modern military equipment such as surveillance drone is being provided to the Army. If the west wants to foster terrorism then why give such immense aid try using logic. Please do share the source of this news as it is a clear attempt to malign U.S-Pak relations.
 

 

[GeoG]

It must be Police and spy agnencis operation rather than Amry. Army will make mass, army is only useful for killing not for captureing. when we will realise this. why we want all the times army to be used. thats the reason we have great problms in Pakistan becaz of the use of Army everywhree for every single reason. First police, ISI, FBI etc for good solution. Army is for fight only............

I agree with your assessment about Army's means of achievement and idealy it should be police and intelligence agencies to do this kind of operation. But these outfits are much stronger than police's capacity and will to undertake this kind of operation. Half hearted measures will only give a new and longer lease of life to these outfits and there is a psysciolical point beneath, Army let operation will mean a clear position where police operation will be spelt by these agencies as wishy wash.
Army created the mess and only army can fully clean it.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Well Guys, It seems like we are getting away from the point and the source of the problem.I have written many times and debated this issue in so many times but I have yet to explain this again. I understand that we are in between a deep sea and devil , however, we have to figure out first how we got there.Only and only then, we may have some means of getting out of this hole which we dig for ourselves. Mind you I can criticise everyone around easily and sit back and see. But that wouldn't be even close to solving this problem. This is the very first statement from ISI cheif who now opened up his lips , found enough courage to point fingers to the source of the problem. But My countrymen, this is sort of too little too late now. They had an opportunity to rectify the situation right at the time when it took nasty turn, but because of the foreign Powers pressure and inability of our leaders that no one wanted to mention western powers involvment. They keep beating the boggy man of Talibans and others while giving free ride to those who were hell bent destroying our unity and our purpose to defend and save our country. Believe me guys, they can capture each individual as well as group who is behind these killings and can easy stop this wave of killing, but why ? when their masters involve and provide funds to blame their adversaries to get the public opinion against Talibans. This is a well planed strategies and sorry to say our leadership of Armed forces and ISI were also willing to tow this line to turn the public opinion against Taliban instead of America. The first shot was fired when this fake video was released by them blaming Talibans and then a wave of propaganda started to blame everything so the Public could really get behind the Pak Army 's actions with collaboration of American wish.Only few could recognize this plan. Now I guess, when American are trying to pull themselves out of Afghanistan and sooner Pakistan will be left behind with this mess. These top leadership start to turn the corner now and starting the planning for the future. This is the first statement on this long and difficult path.

 

[khan125]

Title of the Thread is Wrong , Actual Title is

Western Powers Along With MQM Are Involved In Terrorism In Pakistan

MQM ki hadd tk to theek he lakin apney piyarey taliban ko kion bhool jatey ho jo masjido me specially juma valey din katl o gharat krtey hain.

Jo agencion k paley hoey hain.

 

[Abdali]

Ban MQM AND HANG ALTAF= PEACE IN PAKISTAN.

 

[Malik_12]

Kill Zerdari+nawaz+altaf=Greater Pakistan

Kel zerdari ke kute ne gende naae mein chelang lega di aur bola
eb our zulem nein sehein ge aik gher men do kute nein rehe ge

 

[psycho1]

I agree with your assessment about Army's means of achievement and idealy it should be police and intelligence agencies to do this kind of operation. But these outfits are much stronger than police's capacity and will to undertake this kind of operation. Half hearted measures will only give a new and longer lease of life to these outfits and there is a psysciolical point beneath, Army let operation will mean a clear position where police operation will be spelt by these agencies as wishy wash.
Army created the mess and only army can fully clean it.

ok give me a single example in the world where Army Creaated peace? as a whole in the world or even In Pakistan? give me single example,

 

[GeoG]

ok give me a single example in the world where Army Creaated peace? as a whole in the world or even In Pakistan? give me single example,

We are not debating a political movement, we are discussing outfit which have outgrown their natural size.
Army's role is to cleanse and political leadership then takes over.
Swat is an example.

 

[BluntMan]

This is absurd; every U.S action is eyed with suspicion. The U.S assistance is crucial for the social reforms which our state is incapable to do. What do you have to say about the brainwashing by Taliban as clearly they are now shaping the national narrative?
Over 7.2 billion is being given in collation support fund which deals only with the military operations. From helicopters to F-16 and modern military equipment such as surveillance drone is being provided to the Army. If the west wants to foster terrorism then why give such immense aid try using logic. Please do share the source of this news as it is a clear attempt to malign U.S-Pak relations.

When has USA ever helped any country? Look at South America, Africa whole continents ****** by the USA. IMF, World Bank, UN are tools used by the USA for its control over other countries. Only retards or people who benefit from USA personally support US interference.