We Will Not Go Down - Michael Heart

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Dare to defend Israil

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GQrJndpbzc[/video]
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
IN DEFENSE OF ISRAEL ---

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlA-Wq9SDeE[/video]

Israel you are not alone. You have many friends and supporters.
We stand by you, and will fight alongside you against your enemies.
 
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commander

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Contra I was expecting it from you guys (contra, Indian Muslim, Nepali Pundit), you should be thankful to God that that you have a Independent

country, had you been in place of Palestinians (occupied , slaves) then I would have asked from you about your feeling.

Imagine these scenarios,

** Your homes being bombed.
** Your parents and children being killed with latest weapons.
the list is endless

What would be your feelings. your reaction?? Think. and think honestly.

For your consideration (I think you are alone in defending Israil)

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pjNJDgmuko[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Er-rsicYJg[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh0ZTE9e1Ck[/video]
 
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Murshad Jee

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What else we can expect from a contrary monkey. (Contra).........
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
Murshad bhai,

For your information:
1. The Jews were expelled from Judea(present day Israel) by the Romans in AD 70.

2. They were made to leave their homeland and live in other countries, where, they were never accepted. They were exploited, they were blamed for all the evils, the Jews were made the scapegoat by religious leaders and rulers alike.

3. Because of their intellect and hard work, the Jews were very prosperous, and this invited jealousy from others. There have been many instances where whole Jewish communities have been slaughtered because they were falsely accused of something, though the real reason in many cases was that the people wanted to get their hands on the wealth of the Jews.

4. In late 1800's it was decided to settle Jews in their motherland, which was now called Palestine, which was under the occupation of the Arabs.
The Arabs were occupiers of this land my friend. This land does not belong to the Arabs.

5. The Jews suffered immensely during the second world war, and I am sure you are aware of this.

6. My friend please answer the following questions:
a) why aren't the Arab countries, which have huge reserves of oil, not inviting Palestinians to their land? Why isn't Saudi Arabia for eg. not giving citizenship to Palestinians?

b) Why are countries like Pakistan not giving citizenship to Palestinians?
There are so many muslim nations, I am sure the Palestinians can live with their muslim brothers, instead of those camps...

7. Palestinian terrorists deliberately target Israeli civilians. They specifically target Israeli women and children.

8. They don't accept the two state solution (Hamas), they want the total destruction of Israel. Israel is only defending itself.

9. Also, Israel is the only mature and stable Democracy in that region.

10. Have you forgotten how the terrorists used to target the buses?

11. Do you know that they fire unguided missiles at Israeli settlements?

12. Israel belongs to the jews, it always has and always will.....

13. Hypocrisy of Arabs and other muslim nations is not hidden from anyone my friend.
 

nabeel117

Councller (250+ posts)
contra said:
Murshad bhai,

For your information:
1. The Jews were expelled from Judea(present day Israel) by the Romans in AD 70.

2. They were made to leave their homeland and live in other countries, where, they were never accepted. They were exploited, they were blamed for all the evils, the Jews were made the scapegoat by religious leaders and rulers alike.

3. Because of their intellect and hard work, the Jews were very prosperous, and this invited jealousy from others. There have been many instances where whole Jewish communities have been slaughtered because they were falsely accused of something, though the real reason in many cases was that the people wanted to get their hands on the wealth of the Jews.

4. In late 1800's it was decided to settle Jews in their motherland, which was now called Palestine, which was under the occupation of the Arabs.
The Arabs were occupiers of this land my friend. This land does not belong to the Arabs.

5. The Jews suffered immensely during the second world war, and I am sure you are aware of this.

6. My friend please answer the following questions:
a) why aren't the Arab countries, which have huge reserves of oil, not inviting Palestinians to their land? Why isn't Saudi Arabia for eg. not giving citizenship to Palestinians?

b) Why are countries like Pakistan not giving citizenship to Palestinians?
There are so many muslim nations, I am sure the Palestinians can live with their muslim brothers, instead of those camps...

7. Palestinian terrorists deliberately target Israeli civilians. They specifically target Israeli women and children.

8. They don't accept the two state solution (Hamas), they want the total destruction of Israel. Israel is only defending itself.

9. Also, Israel is the only mature and stable Democracy in that region.

10. Have you forgotten how the terrorists used to target the buses?

11. Do you know that they fire unguided missiles at Israeli settlements?

12. Israel belongs to the jews, it always has and always will.....

13. Hypocrisy of Arabs and other muslim nations is not hidden from anyone my friend.

In WWII less thn 10% of killed civilians were Jews :|

Why India is not giving natinalaties to Jews as you think they are suppressed ones and are more intelligent ;)

Can you give the exact no. that how many Israeli civilians were killed in proportion to Palestanian casualties :roll:

Friend have you seen the footages of Palestinians boys throwing "stones" on "Israeli tanks" in desperation :(

And kindly give the no of Israeli casualties in result of unguided rockets and Palestanian casulties in result of Israeli agresion on Palestinian civil areas time and again?
 
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Murshad Jee

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well said Nabeel117


@ CONTRA
Don't you ever call me "BROTHER"......................... :x ...................Understand
my user name is Murshad Jee so call me by my name,
you Indians biggest TC's (Tail Carriers / In Punjabi something different :o ) or in other words "lick arse" in the world and hypocrite by nature because you thinks your fore fathers were monkeys and you belong to them means Monkey family as you avatar shows. You were licking Brish Govt's ass long time then you start licking America's and now you find f***** Israel.

I just can say these punjabi words for you

GANDA AANDA GANDI SOCH

And as you are a cow piss drinker I think you gonna start drink monkey piss soon.

by the way look at this video what your cousin doing................because you think you belongs to a monkey family...... :lol:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Pwqcavzqo[/video]
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
murshad BHAI,
Apes, chimpanzee's are our cousins. We all share a common ancestor.
Anyway, you are entitled to your beliefs.

I am not allowed to post videos here about Evolution, but, you can see many videos on youtube available on this topic.
Especially see the videos of Dr. Richard Dawkins.
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
navbeel bhai,
nabeel117 said:
In WWII less thn 10% of killed civilians were Jews

1. Friend, Jews were "specifically" targeted. They were separated from others and were killed for no reason other than the fact that they were Jews.

nabeel117 said:
Why India is not giving natinalaties to Jews as you think they are suppressed ones and are more intelligent

2. Jews have been in India for hundreds and thousands of years. Jews were in India before Christianity or Islam were even born(founded).
Many Indian Jews have migrated to Israel. When they were here they did not face any discrimination, and were free to follow their religion. There is no recorded incident of Jews being persecuted in India.
And, they are always welcome to return to India if and when they want.

nabeel117 said:
Can you give the exact no. that how many Israeli civilians were killed in proportion to Palestanian casualties Friend have you seen the footages of Palestinians boys throwing "stones" on "Israeli tanks" in desperation And kindly give the no of Israeli casualties in result of unguided rockets and Palestanian casulties in result of Israeli agresion on Palestinian civil areas time and again?

3. bhai, no doubt that the Palestinians have suffered more casualty. When you fight an enemy who is 100 times stronger than you, what do you expect?
Palestinians should follow Gandhian ways of non violent resistance, instead of killing jewish mothers and children.
 
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commander

Guest
contra said:
murshad BHAI,
Apes, chimpanzee's are our cousins. We all share a common ancestor.
Anyway, you are entitled to your beliefs.

I am not allowed to post videos here about Evolution, but, you can see many videos on youtube available on this topic.
Especially see the videos of Dr. Richard Dawkins.

By no way chimpanzees are our cousins. We the Muslims only Believe on the word of ALLAH (Quran) and word of Prophet (Peace be upon him).
and Darwin's theory about evolution is just a theory not a law.

And read what is in Quran about creation of Adam (Peace be upon him). Fist man on earth.
Behold! thy Lord said to the angels: "I am about to create man, from sounding clay from mud moulded into shape; "When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him." So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together: Not so Iblis: he refused to be among those who prostrated themselves. (God) said: "O Iblis! what is your reason for not being among those who prostrated themselves?" (Iblis) said: "I am not one to prostrate myself to man, whom Thou didst create from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape."
[Qur'an 15:28]

Quran and Hadith about Child birth (which scientist are proving now)

Allah says in the Quran:

O mankind! If you are in doubt about the Resurrection, then verily! We have created you (i.e. Adam) from dust, then from a Nutfah (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge i.e. offspring of Adam), then from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood) then from a little lump of flesh, some formed and some unformed (miscarriage), that We may make (it) clear to you (i.e. to show you Our Power and Ability to do what We will). And We cause whom We will to remain in the wombs for an appointed term, then We bring you out as infants, then (give you growth) that you may reach your age of full strength. And among you there is he who dies (young), and among you there is he who is brought back to the miserable old age, so that he knows nothing after having known. And you see the earth barren, but when We send down water (rain) on it, it is stirred (to life), it swells and puts forth every lovely kind (of growth). (Quran Al-Hajj:5)


And We have enjoined on man (to be dutiful and good) to his parents. His mother bore him in weakness and hardship upon weakness and hardship, and his weaning is in two years give thanks to Me and to your parents, unto Me is the final destination. (Quran Luqman:14)

Narrated by Abdullah (r.a), Allahs Messenger (peace be upon him ) said:-

(As regards to your creation), every one of you is collected in the womb of his mother for the first 40 days, and then he becomes a clot for another 40 days, and then a piece of flesh for another 40 days. Then Allah (s.w.t) sends an angel to write 4 words: He writes his deeds, time of his death, means of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed (in the Hereafter). Then the soul is breathed into his body. So a man may do deeds characteristic of the people of the (Hell) Fire, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses; and so he starts doing deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise and enters Paradise. Similarly, a person may do deeds characteristic of the people of Paradise, so much so that there is only the distance of a cubit between him and it, and then what has been written (by the angel) surpasses, and he starts doing deeds of the people of the (Hell) fire and enters the (Hell) Fire.

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allahs Apostle said, No child is born but has the Islamic Faith, but its parents turn it into a Jew or a Christian

 

foqia khan

MPA (400+ posts)
@contra

1. In early history from 3'rd millennium BC : The Canaanites were the earliest known inhabitants of Palestine. who were Arab from Arab peninsula, they have their own language and culture.

Palestine was the land of Palestinian Arab at all ages, Hebrew came to Palestine from Egypt during the third millennium before century, and established a kingdom for a limited number of years then other nations ended there kingdom and ruled the area. Hebrew presence in Palestine was ended since about 130 years after Jesus birth. Arab ruled the area from 638 AD and were always there until today, there introduce Islam, some Arab from different countries came and lived in Palestine from the early years to learn and educate the Palestinians. Some of the locals Palestinian converted to Islam and the Islamic rulers give a wide option to every body to keep his religion therefore, there is considerable number of Christian in Palestine but all has adopted Arabic language.


2. they were made to leave their homeland not by muslims and it was bcoz of their evilness that they planned for jesus (pbuh) .they have a long history of breaking contracts.these are not blames but reality.

3. Nobody deny that they are intelligent and hard working and for that they were always appreciated in muslims era of golden age.

4. Palestine never belonged to jews (search history ).

5. giving citizenship means to give up the Palestinian land and to allow jews to keep on doing easily whatever they like and world could not see their ugly face towards innocent people.


lastly ,I have a Q to you that if someone comes and take ur inherited house from u or from ur kids and say that this doesn't belongs to u bcoz this house was the property of hindus and not of atheist, will u give them ur house? If u say no than u r the biggest hypocrite.
 

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