Understanding the Quran: Why Believing in Hadith is Essential

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I have had same discussion with these mindless people. They have admitted before they don’t do Namaz, or fast or anything else that quantifies as rules and laws prophet Muhammad told us in front of thousands of witnesses.

But at the very least the call themselves Muslims, so rest is up to Allah

Calling themselves Muslims and not only avoiding Faraiz but ridiculing them is an extreme insult to Islam.

 

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I suggest before you start making more bongis and start to embarass your self any further, short of reading actual hadith which you wont do, start to at least learn about hadith.

Start with reading about the history of hadith in this thread and how the early Muslims were so anti hadith, and why there were no "hadith books" in that period.

History Of Hadith : Why The Prophet Forbade It And Khulafa Burnt It

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I'm not interested in the discussion of Hadith here.This thread is about, Quran can't be explained without Hadith. Prove this thread wrong and explain Quran without Hadith. Can't you take this challenge ? Why don't you accept you can't explain Quran without Hadith.
I have these questions you are unable to answer. I repeat .
Can you answer these questions by reading the Quran only
What does the Sura mean "He frowned " Who is He? Allah never mentioned the name. Who forwned? Why did he frown? who did he frown upon?

 

[Citizen X]

Quran can't be explained without Hadith. Prove this thread wrong

Already have Cowboy. As mentioned and proved there is no explanation, deen or fiqh to be found in hadith, which at best is a very crude and mostly unrealizable record of early Islamic history majority of it based on single person alleged testimonies. Allah's book is not dependent on uncredible stories to "explain it" by peoples even whose real names also you don't. Abu Hurairah for example. Narrator of the most hadith ever, spent the least time with the Prophet from all the know sahabas and you don't even know his real name but worship his hadiths! lol

As for your question, I've already said I'll be glad to answer it and more, once you've answered my pending questions from previous thread.

I'll be a sweet heart and post them again for the second time to re-jog your memory one more them

1. Have you even read a single collection from the "saha satta"

2.Will you drink from a bucket of Milk if its been contaminated with just a single drop of urine. If not then why do you follow your hadith when it is littered with 100s if not 1000s of fabricated hadith as classified by your own moulvis.

3. Why even if so many hadith have been classified as fake and fabrications, why are they are still printed and published today with the classification of Sahih and called the most authentic after the Quran and still considered the part of the Siha Sitta

4. Quote one hadith out of the claimed "many hadith" "clearly" mentioning how to pray.

So ball is in your court if you want answers, you'll have to give a few first. I know you won't simply because you can't.

I'm not interested in the discussion of Hadith here.

I know you aren't majority of you aren't because that just exposes your lack of even basic knowledge about them as well break those high pedestals you have placed them on as more and more truth and facts about them get revealed.

So what will it be my Ozzy friend, more temper tantrums, whataboutery, diversionary tactics, moving the goal posts, red herrings, strawmen or some real discussion.

 

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Already have Cowboy. As mentioned and proved there is no explanation, deen or fiqh to be found in hadith, which at best is a very crude and mostly unrealizable record of early Islamic history majority of it based on single person alleged testimonies. Allah's book is not dependent on uncredible stories to "explain it" by peoples even whose real names also you don't. Abu Hurairah for example. Narrator of the most hadith ever, spent the least time with the Prophet from all the know sahabas and you don't even know his real name but worship his hadiths! lol

As for your question, I've already said I'll be glad to answer it and more, once you've answered my pending questions from previous thread.

I'll be a sweet heart and post them again for the second time to re-jog your memory one more them

1. Have you even read a single collection from the "saha satta"

2.Will you drink from a bucket of Milk if its been contaminated with just a single drop of urine. If not then why do you follow your hadith when it is littered with 100s if not 1000s of fabricated hadith as classified by your own moulvis.

3. Why even if so many hadith have been classified as fake and fabrications, why are they are still printed and published today with the classification of Sahih and called the most authentic after the Quran and still considered the part of the Siha Sitta

4. Quote one hadith out of the claimed "many hadith" "clearly" mentioning how to pray.

So ball is in your court if you want answers, you'll have to give a few first. I know you won't simply because you can't.


I know you aren't majority of you aren't because that just exposes your lack of even basic knowledge about them as well break those high pedestals you have placed them on as more and more truth and facts about them get revealed.

So what will it be my Ozzy friend, more temper tantrums, whataboutery, diversionary tactics, moving the goal posts, red herrings, strawmen or some real discussion.

Oh man you are good. You have convinced me. From today I will only believe in Quran. No more Hadith.

I need your further guidance please.
I am about to start my Zuhar prayer.

I need you to tell me how many rakats there are in the Zuhar prayer and what shall I recite in those rakats.
Please don't waste your time anymore convincing me how bad believing in Hadith is. Because I am already convinced. Just explain me how to accomplish my Zuhar prayer. The method, rakats and what to pray in them.

I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks

 

[Citizen X]

Oh man you are good. You have convinced me. From today I will only believe in Quran. No more Hadith.

I need your further guidance please.
I am about to start my Zuhar prayer.

I need you to tell me how many rakats there are in the Zuhar prayer and what shall I recite in those rakats.
Please don't waste your time anymore convincing me how bad believing in Hadith is. Because I am already convinced. Just explain me how to accomplish my Zuhar prayer. The method, rakats and what to pray in them.

I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks

No such thing as daily ritual prayers in the Quran, you're welcome.

And in case you missed it the first two times

1. Have you even read a single collection from the "saha satta"

2.Will you drink from a bucket of Milk if its been contaminated with just a single drop of urine. If not then why do you follow your hadith when it is littered with 100s if not 1000s of fabricated hadith as classified by your own moulvis.

3. Why even if so many hadith have been classified as fake and fabrications, why are they are still printed and published today with the classification of Sahih and called the most authentic after the Quran and still considered the part of the Siha Sitta

4. Quote one hadith out of the claimed "many hadith" "clearly" mentioning how to pray.

 

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No such thing as daily ritual prayers in the Quran, you're welcome.

And in case you missed it the first two times

1. Have you even read a single collection from the "saha satta"

2.Will you drink from a bucket of Milk if its been contaminated with just a single drop of urine. If not then why do you follow your hadith when it is littered with 100s if not 1000s of fabricated hadith as classified by your own moulvis.

3. Why even if so many hadith have been classified as fake and fabrications, why are they are still printed and published today with the classification of Sahih and called the most authentic after the Quran and still considered the part of the Siha Sitta

4. Quote one hadith out of the claimed "many hadith" "clearly" mentioning ho

This is an important question. I have started a new thread about it so those with expertise in this subject could guide me.
I would like you to throw light on this subject in this new thread.