Thumb Verification,in the eyes of HoD Computer Engineering(NUST)

ammadk

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Perhaps most of us are confused about the IK allegation of rigging in the election and must be wondering why the government is hesitating in verifying votes.

To me the verification seems like a straight forward process. Though it does not rule out rigging completely but still can help in ascertaining the authenticity of electoral process. Those of you who voted know the process through which you casted your vote.

The Polling Officer after verifying your CNIC filled the counter-foil of the ballot paper and asked you to place your thumb print on it. He put his signature and government stamp on the back of the ballot paper for you to poll. Election Commission of Pakistan is bound to keep these counter-foils where you had put your finger print against your CNIC number. These counter-foils are required for votes verification though someone can still replace the vote you casted with a forged one in the ballot box but this aspect of rigging cannot be easily verified and requires criminal investigation.

First the verification process needs to check if the number of counter-foils specific to a polling booth matches with the number of votes counted in that booth. If these numbers match, it is good, if they do not; it implies rigging.

The process also needs to do detail verification. For this, to start with, the process needs to take some random samples of counter-foils and scan the finger-prints and the CNIC number on paper using a high resolution scanner. Simple image processing techniques can segment the fingerprint and the associated CNIC number. The verification now only requires one to one mapping of these finger-prints with the ones that are already in the NADRA record against your CNICs. In case any mismatch is found, it clearly indicates rigging in the sample data. A verification of all the foils in a constituency can measure the extent of rigging if there is any or give a clean chit to this aspect of the electoral process.

It is important to mention that the finger matching technology is very mature and one-to-one matching is very simple and accurate even if there is only a small part of the impression is available for a match. CARE has developed a solution many years back that can do millions of these matches in a second using high power computing provided these thumb-prints are scanned from the foils into a database against their respective CNIC and NADRA database is accessible for the matching. CARE with Allweb Technologies is offering this solution (
https://www.allwebid.com/) to users for many applications. One utility is where a user can associate multiple applications like emails, facebook accounts etc with his thumb print and only swapping his finger without putting any password will open all these applications for him.

It is also very important to understand that very little from a fingerprint is required for matching. This little information from the fingerprint is called minutiae. These are the points that mark the ending or bifurcations of the lines on your fingerprint. A thumb impression is non-verifiable if its quality is so bad that even few minutiae cannot be extracted from its scan.

I hope and pray early resolution to current crises. I also hope the negotiation of the two parties will consider technological solutions like this to give comfort to IK if the elections were fair or will bring the rigging to light for our future elections to be fair. This will also help people understand that how the use of technology can bring fairness in our systems and help in catching the
offenders with proof.


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iltaf

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
In my humble opinion, there is a simpler voting solution i.e. online voting using touch screens for user-friendliness and finger scanner. A voter while using the online app can cast vote entering his CNIC and thumb print. At the end a hard-copy (may be 2) will print out for casting in ballot paper. The online app can have validation checks like invalid CNIC, duplicate entry etc. In case of any issue, the online count and the printed copies count can be verified :)

I can easily make this app, being a software developer or anyone else :) There is no rocket science, just a simple algo and some integration with NADRA thru webservices.
 

kaalashaa

Minister (2k+ posts)
Yeah, but status quo will make ignorants believe it is rocket science so they shouldn't even talk about it.

In my humble opinion, there is a simpler voting solution i.e. online voting using touch screens for user-friendliness and finger scanner. A voter while using the online app can cast vote entering his CNIC and thumb print. At the end a hard-copy (may be 2) will print out for casting in ballot paper. The online app can have validation checks like invalid CNIC, duplicate entry etc. In case of any issue, the online count and the printed copies count can be verified :)

I can easily make this app, being a software developer or anyone else :) There is no rocket science, just a simple algo and some integration with NADRA thru webservices.
 

iltaf

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yeah, but status quo will make ignorants believe it is rocket science so they shouldn't even talk about it.

Yes agree with you but PTI can present this an optional solution to curb electoral corruption. I and many Insafians will volunteer in making this or another online solution a reality :)
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
In my humble opinion, there is a simpler voting solution i.e. online voting using touch screens for user-friendliness and finger scanner. A voter while using the online app can cast vote entering his CNIC and thumb print. At the end a hard-copy (may be 2) will print out for casting in ballot paper. The online app can have validation checks like invalid CNIC, duplicate entry etc. In case of any issue, the online count and the printed copies count can be verified :)

I can easily make this app, being a software developer or anyone else :) There is no rocket science, just a simple algo and some integration with NADRA thru webservices.

Yeah, but status quo will make ignorants believe it is rocket science so they shouldn't even talk about it.

All these things intentions otherwise NADRA is full of Software developers. The suggestion of electronic voting machine was put forward before 2013 elections but was thrown in the bin because they had to do the rigging that's status quo didn't accept. I think to adopt biometric or EVM technologies are more difficult for NOORAS than PM's resignation.
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
In my humble opinion, there is a simpler voting solution i.e. online voting using touch screens for user-friendliness and finger scanner. A voter while using the online app can cast vote entering his CNIC and thumb print. At the end a hard-copy (may be 2) will print out for casting in ballot paper. The online app can have validation checks like invalid CNIC, duplicate entry etc. In case of any issue, the online count and the printed copies count can be verified :)

I can easily make this app, being a software developer or anyone else :) There is no rocket science, just a simple algo and some integration with NADRA thru webservices.

Yeah, but status quo will make ignorants believe it is rocket science so they shouldn't even talk about it.

All these things intentions otherwise NADRA is full of Software developers. The suggestion of electronic voting machine was put forward before 2013 elections but was thrown in the bin because they had to do the rigging that's status quo didn't accept. I think to adopt biometric or EVM technologies are more difficult for NOORAS than PM's resignation.
 

MHAMZA

Minister (2k+ posts)
So where does the magnetic ink come into play and most importantly why was it not used even though it was procured and distributed!!!
 

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