This forum in EXTREMELY biased

[In flames]

It is utterly disappointing to see the double standards on this forum,is stating facts are not allowed on this forum?If shias are committing crimes so we can't raiose our voice?but anyone can cry about perceived shia plight on this forum,By your attitude it seems you would even take exception to Quran's branding of deniers of truth as kafirs,fasiqs and zalims.Was Quran a sectarian book for you?If you think that way then you have right to ban me,but if you believe that Quran is the world of God,then why are you deleting threads which are full of facts and get deleted because it is perceived as sectarian by Admins,why is it sin to speak against the crimes of shias and their evil conspiracy?

I just want to know are you guys shias,seculars,pagans what are your belief,i assume you people support PTI so i am really stand vindicated that PTI is nothing but a Jewish invention and Imran is a stooge of Jews,who is prop secular.

thanks.

 

[Queue Farms]

 

[gotti]

Brother,

From experience, I think everyone has an equal say and has been critical of the Shias (not their faith or the group in general) but of certain people who commit violent crimes in the name of their religion or faith or even go as far as to say that they are doing so on behalf of the Shia.

We were even critical of those Shia who were trying to spark religious divisiveness and were making inflammatory comments to invite hatred for the Shia.

Other Shia members on this site also told them to shut their traps so as to not invite a bad name to the Shia community or promote hatred between the majority and minority communities that need to coexist for the sake of Pakistan, especially, at this very sensitive time when India is practicing the policy of belligerence on the ceasefire line from the other side of Kashmir that it has brutally occupied.

Also, the attempts of posting material that was made just for the purpose of hurting the sentiments of the majority Muslim population on this site was condemned immediately, on many occasions.

I can direct you to quite a few posts on this matter and I am sure you have had an opportunity to look at a lot of them, as well as make many, yourself.

Although, I am not a spokesperson for this site, I would like to ask you what was it that made you feel there was a bias so we can equally raise our voice (assuming there is a bias)

 

[muntazir]

@in flames im sorry watever happend so now its better for u to migrate towards saudia it will be better for ur future if if they accept u in pakistan its true they make pakistan with the help of sunni brother so there is no place for wahabi aur wahabi chane deoband try it and contact with saudi govt and ewe all pray for ur future im sure u will take one chance and let them know that there is no place for those who want to import saudi brand religon im sure you will not dissapointed by those sheikh now dont cry more coz crying is biddah specialy for ppl like you.

abhey hamesha tumarey koo un loogon ney bachaya jab main ney tumari durgath banani shuroo kii aab un koo ilzam dey rahey hoo tum ko un ka shukria adaa kerna chahey warna koi aik thread sabith kero jahan tum ney koi jawab daleel sai dia hoo jaoo mian kaam kero.

 

[In flames]

Brother,

From experience, I think everyone has an equal say and has been critical of the Shias (not their faith or the group in general) but of certain people who commit violent crimes in the name of their religion or faith or even go as far as to say that they are doing so on behalf of the Shia.

We were even critical of those Shia who were trying to spark religious divisiveness and were making inflammatory comments to invite hatred for the Shia.

Other Shia members on this site also told them to shut their traps so as to not invite a bad name to the Shia community or promote hatred between the majority and minority communities that need to coexist for the sake of Pakistan, especially, at this very sensitive time when India is practicing the policy of belligerence on the ceasefire line from the other side of Kashmir that it has brutally occupied.

Also, the attempts of posting material that was made just for the purpose of hurting the sentiments of the majority Muslim population on this site was condemned immediately, on many occasions.

I can direct you to quite a few posts on this matter and I am sure you have had an opportunity to look at a lot of them, as well as make many, yourself.

Although, I am not a spokesperson for this site, I would like to ask you what was it that made you feel there was a bias so we can equally raise our voice (assuming there is a bias)

Yes i can understand your constaints,so now i have realized that i better find a forum which suits my taste and ideas. :) No love lost

 

[In flames]

@in flames im sorry watever happend so now its better for u to migrate towards saudia it will be better for ur future if if they accept u in pakistanits true they make pakistan with the help of sunni brother so there is no place for wahabi aur wahabi chane deoband try it and contact with saudi govt and ewe all pray for ur future im sure u will take one chance and let them know that there is no place for those who want to import saudi brand religon im sure you will not dissapointed by those sheikh now dont cry more coz crying is biddah specialy for ppl like you.

abhey hamesha tumarey koo un loogon ney bachaya jab main ney tumari durgath banani shuroo kii aab un koo ilzam dey rahey hoo tum ko un ka shukria adaa kerna chahey warna koi aik thread sabith kero jahan tum ney koi jawab daleel sai dia hoo jaoo mian kaam kero.

Enjoy your rambling in front of simple minded people,now you have a free ground for yourself :).keep talking trash.

Btw,i bet you are one of the admins.

 

[muntazir]

Enjoy your rambling in front of simple minded people,now you have a free ground for yourself :).keep talking trash.

chaloo koi to aik thread dekhaoo jahan tum koi jawab dey sakey hoo koi aik?

 

[gotti]

Yes i can understand your constaints,so now i have realized that i better find a forum which suits my taste and ideas. :) No love lost

Brother, there are people on this site who say that don't believe Shia to be Muslims and they make posts stating this belief, openly. There are limits about what you can promote but if you don't believe such and such to be Muslim, there is no issue. There are people who call others Nasibi, Wahabbi, Khariji, Najdi, and people of one Sufi tradition make fun of Sufis, Barelvi of others, it's very common here from my experience.

No one says anything. There are even ethnic bigots here who are just blatantly racists but their extremism is shut down and it fizzles out in the end.

Everything happens on this site, no one has an issue with anything except for glorification of murders and murderers such as in Syria, Lebanon and even the wave of killings in Karachi. But these people were shut down by other Shia members, as well.

I don't think there is a muzzle put on someone just for their personal expressions. If you can tell me what the issue was, may be other members can express that as well.

I will give you an example of this guy who was trying to spark religious hatred. He got almost 70 dislikes and people also asked him to leave the site. He was praising the murders committed by Abidi.

I think this is a balanced site and although, there are better sites out there, some time should be given to this, as well, for the sake of the traffic it gets and the time we have already put in, here.

The rest is up to you. ;)

 

[gotti]

There are Indians on this site, openly insulting Pakistan, it's founders, leaders and it's people. Open and barefaced insults are being directed at our soldiers who lay down their lives for the country.

I think this site does not have any "moderation" and it is a free-for-all, but I believe this to be a good thing because all sorts of beliefs, ideologies and philosophies should be welcome in an open, democratic, pluralistic and inclusive political discourse.

It helps people understand things better, grow as a community and most importantly, develop shaoor.

 

[Vitamin_C]

I say that you are a Jewish invention and a stooge of Jews... haha any problems?
It does not matter what you think or say.
Because you are a retard.

 

[سعد]

The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye. The more light you shine on it, the more it will contract.

 

[insaf_tiger]

@in flames i agree with u to some extent but not completly .. mein nay be feel kia hai .... hamney takfeeri .. kharji . yazidi .. punjabi talban . u name it kaha jata hai .. but agar ham sirf mohajir keh dain .. tu post deleat kar di jati hai ..ahle tashi bahiyon say mazrat ke sath .. ahle tashee agar nabi pak ke sahaba karam ko kafir kahein tu woh takfeeri nahe hotey lekin ham inhain agar keh dain tu ham takfeeree ... or yahan eik khatoon tu pori fitna factory hai .. but hamey issi halat mein servive karna hai ..
now come to p t i ... pakistan mein har masley ka hal or sectarian violence ka bi hal sirf woh dai sakta hai jo leader cradibal ho ga .. jo shia suni say oper insaf par faisala kare ga jesay qaide azam thay or imran bilkul issi tarah hai . i am die hard imran khans worker . but mein p t i mein imran ke baad sab say ziyada kisi ka diwana hon tu woh apney tiger dr arif alvi sahab hai .. woh ahle tashi hain lekin woh bhi imran ki tarah hai achay borey loag har jagah hotey hein har firqay mazhab mein .. apne fidous naqvi sahab ki geniuos admi hain insha allah asad umar mera eik or heera leader ke sath kam karin gai .. rawalpindi waley zahid kazmi sahab bhi ala banday hain yeh loag iss shia suni say oper hain or yahi hamey cheye ... so labaik imran khan

 

[insaf-seeker]

Yeh Imran Khan aur Shia? yeh konsi logic hai bhai? I think you don't even know a bit about IK!

 

[muntazir]

@inflames bechara wanted ki tarha ka banda hai jiss ko kuch pata naheen key kesey doosron sai baath cheet kertey hain yeh bechara sirf dislike ka button dabana janta hai iss ko kai dafa kaha pehley post ko parho to hum jaisa banda bhi shaid kabhi achi baat kersakey per woh wanted ki hi copy thaa afsoos dar afsoos.

 

[muntazir]

Enjoy your rambling in front of simple minded people,now you have a free ground for yourself :).keep talking trash.

Btw,i bet you are one of the admins.

haq char yaar forum per chaley jaoo wahan sahih rahey gaa woh loog tum ko shaid accept kerlen.

 

[gotti]

@in flames i agree with u to some extent but not completly .. mein nay be feel kia hai .... hamney takfeeri .. kharji . yazidi .. punjabi talban . u name it kaha jata hai .. but agar ham sirf mohajir keh dain .. tu post deleat kar di jati hai ..ahle tashi bahiyon say mazrat ke sath .. ahle tashee agar nabi pak ke sahaba karam ko kafir kahein tu woh takfeeri nahe hotey lekin ham inhain agar keh dain tu ham takfeeree ... or yahan eik khatoon tu pori fitna factory hai .. but hamey issi halat mein servive karna hai ..
now come to p t i ... pakistan mein har masley ka hal or sectarian violence ka bi hal sirf woh dai sakta hai jo leader cradibal ho ga .. jo shia suni say oper insaf par faisala kare ga jesay qaide azam thay or imran bilkul issi tarah hai . i am die hard imran khans worker . but mein p t i mein imran ke baad sab say ziyada kisi ka diwana hon tu woh apney tiger dr arif alvi sahab hai .. woh ahle tashi hain lekin woh bhi imran ki tarah hai achay borey loag har jagah hotey hein har firqay mazhab mein .. apne fidous naqvi sahab ki geniuos admi hain insha allah asad umar mera eik or heera leader ke sath kam karin gai .. rawalpindi waley zahid kazmi sahab bhi ala banday hain yeh loag iss shia suni say oper hain or yahi hamey cheye ... so labaik imran khan

Arif Alvi ahl e tashi nahi. Apna moqaf aur point saabit kerain laikin mazhab na tabdeel kerain aur ghalat information na pesh kerain

He was a Jamaati in his college days. Although, Shia were members in some campuses, usually, they didn't join due to religious differences.

 

[insaf_tiger]

Arif Alvi ahl e tashi nahi. Apna moqaf aur point saabit kerain laikin mazhab na tabdeel kerain aur ghalat information na pesh kerain

He was a Jamaati in his college days. Although, Shia were members in some campuses, usually, they didn't join due to religious differences.

I m sorry agar yeh baat such arif alvi sahab wali. I have been told he is any way ali zaidi firdous naqvi zahid kazi is shia and I also qout ahlae tashi alim jan ali kazmi he is good man he should be incharge of shia in my sight.

 

[MYCOUNTRY]

Keep spreading hatred ...................Some says Imran is a Taliban Khan and now u r looking it from Shia side...............but PTI or Imran are working for peace in Pakistan , Terrorism is terrorism if it is from Shai or Sunni MQM PPP PTI or any body else.
,,,,,,Imran will bring this country on the right path InshaAllah.
Let me know from which party u r then i will talk about it.ok

 

[gotti]

I m sorry agar yeh baat such arif alvi sahab wali. I have been told he is any way ali zaidi firdous naqvi zahid kazi is shia and I also qout ahlae tashi alim jan ali kazmi he is good man he should be incharge of shia in my sight.

Ayatollah Dhaku is a great man, as well but he is already a leader of the Shi'a and the only second Marja from Pakistan.

Dr. Arf Alvi is definitely not, others may well be.

 

[Researcher]

@In flames bhai, why you are getting so disheartened? Please, do not push Pakistan towards becoming another Iraq, or Syria. To me, your distinct voice (even i oppose a lot of times) is as important as BuTurabi (even if you disagree, still miss his crisp Urdu and point of view). Why?

These all voices are part of PAKISTAN. We are not perfect, but we all are part of Pakistan. Let's accept Pakistan and its all Pakistanis (including every different religion, and sects).

Just a question, dear brother -- Why do you always look things from only certain perspective? Please (i repeat), raise above our differences to look at the bigger picture -- PAKISTAN.

United we stand, divided we fall.