Thank u but no Thank u : Modi snubs Imran refused to use Pakistani Airspace

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You didnt say never, you said 2008-2015 it was off the table. Which means it was on the table during Mush era.

So u didn't get my point. The Kashmir was never on the table for any negotiation, let alone nearing a solution is a blatant lie.
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اپ کی بات میں پھر اگر اگیا کوئی پئدار حل بتائیے محترم

یہ پائیدار حل ہی ہے۔ پائیدار کا مطلب ان کا قتل نہیں ان کو انکی اوقات میں واپس رکھنا ہے۔

ان کے فنکاروں کے اشتہار، پاکستان کی چاول کی ایکسپورٹ، ان کی فلمیں، ان کی ویبسائٹس سب پر پابندی لگا دو۔

ان کی طاقت ہمارے زہنوں اور معاش کے ساتھ کھیلانا ہے، اس کو ختم کرنا ان کی ہر چیز سے زبردستی سے لاتعلقی قائم کرنا ہے۔
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You didnt say never, you said 2008-2015 it was off the table. Which means it was on the table during Mush era.

On the table not in the sense of being negotiated but settled as existing borders. Which means the same as doing nothing or not being on the table, as nothing is gained. That's what they called win-win.
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I'm not dumb. But you certainly are!

Open Flight radar and check his flight trajectory yourself! He flew over Karachi/Gawadar route that goes above Arabian sea opened by Pakistan's airspace.

can you post the trajectory of his plane here ?

As for I know , Indian planes are regularly flying to Oman over sea outside of Pakistan nautical miles limit
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
India still has to do something about Kashmir valley. Mush offered to resolve the issue by giving Jammu, Ladakh, Kargil to India while Pakistan gets Kashmir Valley.

On the table not in the sense of being negotiated but settled as existing borders. Which means the same as doing nothing or not being on the table, as nothing is gained. That's what they called win-win.
 

insouciant

Minister (2k+ posts)
Most of the separatist movements are also in Kashmir! I think it was more than a fair deal if Siachen is also included as a no-control zone!

India still has to do something about Kashmir valley. Mush offered to resolve the issue by giving Jammu, Ladakh, Kargil to India while Pakistan gets Kashmir Valley.
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
India still has to do something about Kashmir valley. Mush offered to resolve the issue by giving Jammu, Ladakh, Kargil to India while Pakistan gets Kashmir Valley.

That's the rosy picture. But the facts from the book tell a different story.

A.S. Daulat co-authored this book and before that "Kashmir: The Vajpayee Years"

In that he outlines how Kashmiri leaders were crying and normal people were sad on the passing of Vajpayee. Remember he is the Indian who has served the longest in Kashmir.

So what you are saying is just pep-talk for public, but facts outline a completely different story. Which you can also find visible from the books cover.

This is actually how Hurriyat leaders saw Vajpayee and India, so the above story of Jammu, Ladakh, Kargil is just an intellectual humor.

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alimula

Senator (1k+ posts)

یہ پائیدار حل ہی ہے۔ پائیدار کا مطلب ان کا قتل نہیں ان کو انکی اوقات میں واپس رکھنا ہے۔

ان کے فنکاروں کے اشتہار، پاکستان کی چاول کی ایکسپورٹ، ان کی فلمیں، ان کی ویبسائٹس سب پر پابندی لگا دو۔

ان کی طاقت ہمارے زہنوں اور معاش کے ساتھ کھیلانا ہے، اس کو ختم کرنا ان کی ہر چیز سے زبردستی سے لاتعلقی قائم کرنا ہے۔
ایک جنگ ہھتیاروں سے لڑی جاتی ہے اور ایک جنگ اکنامک ایکٹیوٹی کو روکنے سے لڑی جاتی ہے۔
آپ کا فرمانا ہے کہ ٹرید روک دیں تو انڈیا اپنی اوقات میں آ جائے گا۔۔۔ واہ میں تو فین ہی ہو گیا اپکا۔
بھائی صاحب جس طرح جنگ کا ٹاپ کا ہتھیار ایٹم بم ہے اسی طرح اکنامک جنگ کا ٹاپ کا ہتھیار جی ڈی پی ہے۔
پاکستان کوئی جی سیون ملک نہیں ہے جو یہ ہتھیار استمال کرسکے۔
یہ ہتھیار چائنہ امریکہ جیسے ملک استمال کرنے سے ڈرتے ہیں اور اپ پاکستان کو یہ مشورہ دے رہے ہیں
اللہ رحم کرے
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ایک جنگ ہھتیاروں سے لڑی جاتی ہے اور ایک جنگ اکنامک ایکٹیوٹی کو روکنے سے لڑی جاتی ہے۔
آپ کا فرمانا ہے کہ ٹرید روک دیں تو انڈیا اپنی اوقات میں آ جائے گا۔۔۔ واہ میں تو فین ہی ہو گیا اپکا۔
بھائی صاحب جس طرح جنگ کا ٹاپ کا ہتھیار ایٹم بم ہے اسی طرح اکنامک جنگ کا ٹاپ کا ہتھیار جی ڈی پی ہے۔
پاکستان کوئی جی سیون ملک نہیں ہے جو یہ ہتھیار استمال کرسکے۔
یہ ہتھیار چائنہ امریکہ جیسے ملک استمال کرنے سے ڈرتے ہیں اور اپ پاکستان کو یہ مشورہ دے رہے ہیں
اللہ رحم کرے

اللہ تیری عقل پر رحم کرے علی کا نام تیرے ساتھ لگانا گناہ ہے
 

baba dina

Councller (250+ posts)
This is why govt and military establishment are on same page. This country is in such bad situation that if things continue the way they have since 2008 then this country wont last another 10 years.

Our GDP per capita nominal is around $1,400 per person.
Most of this is not taxed. And from what is collected, half goes into interest payments and from what is left we try to fund an army that has to counter the 2nd largest army in the world.

These Maryams and Bilawals just don't get it, the old days are gone, if Pakistan is run the way their parents ran it, then there will be no more Pakistan and even military establishment knows it. The reason why there is such a strong commitment to anti-corruption and economy is that its a do or die situation for Pakistan. This is something that Status-Quo politicians are failing to understand, they are still living in the old mentality.
Indeed.. This is the main point which is being garbled by media for its own intersts.
Loans of almost $100B
Deficit of -$20B+ (Exports+Remitences-imports)
Payments getting matured (TV, Airports, motorways mortgaged)
Government Bonds related payments
Loan payments..

Then we say why Pakistan is not respected.. it is too weak.. sadly.. crawling..
Lots of effort and sacrifices needed to come out of this debt trap.

Industries are in bad shape and even if the whole world say, send us exports.. we have nothing to export.. cut down imports.. we have no local alternates..

Only hope is tourism.. Which need peace.. no wars...

This is what Pakistan decision makers can see and are moving correctly towards that but those who caused this situation at the first place, are not giving up on their evil plans and lots of our friends fall in emotional trap..

May Allah Bless this Land and help its people..
 

saadi038

MPA (400+ posts)
Chudies are chutias of course their PM has loads of time and he can have a joy ride half way around the world.
 

alimula

Senator (1k+ posts)
اللہ تیری عقل پر رحم کرے علی کا نام تیرے ساتھ لگانا گناہ ہے
بھائی اپ بات میں مذہب لے ائے؟
یہ تو وہی بات ہوگئی کہ بس کر پگلے رلائے گا کیا
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Indian media is such a liar!!! Pakistan opened up two routes for Modi. A shorter one that goes across to central Asia, and longer one that goes over Karachi, Gawader towards Oman. He took the longer one for optics reasons but still used the Pakistan's airspace allowed to him by Pakistan! ? ? ?

Liberal 000 - Answer this
 

Xiggs

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Imran khan: Aao! Ajao! Hamari airspace se shortcut le lo!??

Modi: Ummm...errr????....nahi..mera viman tumharay JF-17 se darta hai, uski himmat nahi hoti tumhari airspace mai aanay ki?