Severe consequences in case of attack: Clinton--Another 9/11 Propaganda?????

[MANNO]

NEW YORK: The United States has warned of severe consequences if a successful extremist attack in America were traced back to Pakistan, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday in an interview with CBS' 60 Minutes, reports Reuters.


The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for a failed bid to bomb New York's Times Square last Saturday. If proven, it would be the group's first act in the United States.
Pakistani-American Faisal Shahzad has been charged with driving the crude homemade bomb into Midtown Manhattan and said he acted alone, according to authorities. But investigators have uncovered possible links to the Pakistani Taliban and a Kashmiri Islamist group.


We've gotten more cooperation. It's been a real sea change in the commitment we have seen from the Pakistani government. We want more, we expect more, Clinton said in the interview to be aired on Sunday. Excerpts were released on Friday.

We've made it very clear that if heaven-forbid attacks like this that we can trace back to Pakistan were to have been successful, there would be very severe consequences, she said, without elaborating.

Shahzad, 30, who was born in Pakistan and became a US citizen last year, has admitted to the failed plot and to receiving bomb-making training in a Taliban and al-Qaeda stronghold in Pakistan, prosecutors said.

He has been charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and trying to kill and maim people, as well as other counts.
Shahzad is yet to appear in court as he has waived his US legal rights and is talking to investigators.


Better Relationship
Tension remained high in New York after Shahzad was plucked from an Emirates airline flight he boarded on Monday night even though he had been placed on a no fly list.
Several blocks of Times Square were shut down again on Friday for 90 minutes to investigate a suspicious package that turned out to be a lunch cooler.
Some analysts have speculated that if the Pakistani Taliban were involved in the Times Square plot, it could be responding to US drone attacks that have killed militants hiding in Pakistan as well as civilians.

The United States, which sees Pakistan's effort against militants as crucial to its fight against the Taliban in Afghanistan, has about 200 military personnel in Pakistan, including Special Operations forces on a training mission.

We also have a much better relationship, military to military, intelligence to intelligence, government to government than we had before, Clinton said. I think that there was a double game going on in the previous years, where we got a lot of lip service but very little produced.

We've got a lot produced. We have seen the killing or capturing of a great number of the leadership of significant terrorist groups and we're going (to) continue that, she said in the interview.

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Friday the United States was prepared to provide more assistance to Pakistan if it wanted it in the wake of the attempted Times Square bombing.



http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...e-consequences-in-case-of-ttack-clinton-02-sa

 

[Waseem]

Shahzad a lone wolf: Petraeus

WASHINGTON: A senior US military commander and a lawmaker said on Friday they believed the man who tried to bomb New Yorks Times Square was a lone wolf.
Gen David Petraeus, who oversees Americas wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, told a US news agency there was no indication that Faisal Shahzad worked with others in concocting the terror attack or the homemade bomb.

We dont know that this individual did something that escaped in some way our ability to pick up on either his trip to Pakistan or some other case, said Congressman Silvestre Reyes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, when asked at a news conference why US intelligence agencies failed to learn about Faisals links to the Taliban.

Gen Petraeus, however, told AP that Faisal was inspired by militants in Pakistan but didnt have direct contact with them.

On Thursday, the Washington Post reported that US investigators were increasingly convinced that (Faisals) accounts to interrogators, in particular his assertion that he was trained by the Pakistani Taliban, are on the mark.

The report, quoting anonymous intelligence sources, also claimed that US officials had identified an overseas courier who funnelled money to Shahzad for the failed terrorist attack.

The Obamas administration believed that drone attacks were not adequate in thwarting militant attempts on the West. And it was considering an expanded training mission by US Special Forces to establish enough confidence in the Pakistani military to launch offensives against militant strongholds in North Waziristan, a press report said.

The US administration did not share the medias enthusiasm, particularly when it came to browbeating Pakistan.

We have dramatically increased our partnership with Pakistan intense security cooperation, supporting Pakistans largest offensive against terrorism within borders within its borders in years, an offensive that is focused not just on Al Qaeda, but on the Pakistani Taliban as well, said White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

Mr Gibbs also downplayed the suggestion that Faisal had received training at a camp in North Waziristan.

The specific region was not, as I recall, brought up in great detail today, said the White House spokesman when asked if President Barack Obama had discussed the terror camps in North Waziristan with his war council on Thursday.

Suffice to say that many regions in Pakistan have been the focus of our cooperative work with Pakistan, the government of Pakistan for the length of our administration, understanding that we have a threat that continues from that region of the world.

 

[kashnex]

All this is to create a case against pakistan.

They just want to teach pakistan a lesson for making its defense strong.in addition to that, they also want to hide their defeat in iraq, and now in afghanistan.i'm not surprised this incredible play by them. This is the right time for the pakistani govt. To act sensibly but chances are 0%.gen.kiyani has a very decisive role to play.

 

[MANNO]

 

[gazoomartian]

Shahzad a ‘lone wolf’: Petraeus

WASHINGTON: A senior US military commander and a lawmaker said on Friday they believed the man who tried to bomb New York’s Times Square was a ‘lone wolf’.
Gen David Petraeus, who oversees America’s wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, told a US news agency there was no indication that Faisal Shahzad worked with others in concocting the terror attack or the homemade bomb.

“We don’t know that this individual did something that escaped in some way our ability to pick up on either his trip to Pakistan or some other case,” said Congressman Silvestre Reyes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, when asked at a news conference why US intelligence agencies failed to learn about Faisal’s links to the Taliban.

Gen Petraeus, however, told AP that Faisal was “inspired by militants in Pakistan but didn’t have direct contact with them”.

On Thursday, the Washington Post reported that US investigators were “increasingly convinced that (Faisal’s) accounts to interrogators, in particular his assertion that he was trained by the Pakistani Taliban, are on the mark”.

The report, quoting anonymous intelligence sources, also claimed that US officials had identified an “overseas courier” who funnelled money to Shahzad for the failed terrorist attack.

The Obama’s administration believed that drone attacks were not adequate in thwarting militant attempts on the West. And it was considering an “expanded training mission” by US Special Forces to establish enough “confidence” in the Pakistani military to launch offensives against militant strongholds in North Waziristan, a press report said.

The US administration did not share the media’s enthusiasm, particularly when it came to browbeating Pakistan.

“We have dramatically increased our partnership with Pakistan – intense security cooperation, supporting Pakistan’s largest offensive against terrorism within borders – within its borders in years, an offensive that is focused not just on Al Qaeda, but on the Pakistani Taliban as well,” said White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

Mr Gibbs also downplayed the suggestion that Faisal had received training at a camp in North Waziristan.

“The specific region was not, as I recall, brought up in great detail today,” said the White House spokesman when asked if President Barack Obama had discussed the terror camps in North Waziristan with his war council on Thursday.

“Suffice to say that many regions in Pakistan have been the focus of our cooperative work with Pakistan, the government of Pakistan for the length of our administration, understanding that we have a threat that continues from that region of the world.”

Its an empty threat to please India because she is well known to pro-India. she is makingsure that we know that specially after they leave afghan. But I must say she sounds pretty stupid refuting the statements by her own general petraus

 

[gazoomartian]

All this is to create a case against pakistan.

They just want to teach pakistan a lesson for making its defense strong.in addition to that, they also want to hide their defeat in iraq, and now in afghanistan.i'm not surprised this incredible play by them. This is the right time for the pakistani govt. To act sensibly but chances are 0%.gen.kiyani has a very decisive role to play.

jews key hathkandey bahut lambey hotey hain. faisla shahzad has been framed by the jews to create a case

 

[kashnex]

jews key hathkandey bahut lambey hotey hain. Faisla shahzad has been framed by the jews to create a case

roz ka natik hai yaar. Ajeeb bakk bakk laga rkhi hai inhon nay

 

[gazoomartian]

Just thought of something. Mossad has done this to give American false reason to stay in Afghanistan. Israel would never want Americans to leave because that defeats their agenda. Israel and British always fight to the last American. Jewish media would say very soon if they haven't already : The real threat exists, we shouldn't leave

If Obama has least bit of love for his economy, country men, and have sense of responsibilities he will not use this as a pretext to stay and fight a war that is draining their economy and killing troops. We just have to wait n see

 

[rajakhanmd]

Though I think that this was a message given to address US public. But still.

We captured 5 US citizens from Gujranwala who traveled to Pakistan, leaving farewell video messages behind. And we caught them with real stuff, not fertilizers and propane gas that was termed as WMD by some US official. I wish someone from our side can tell US the same , that we want more, we expect more and there will be serious consequences.

But how can our FM issue such a statement. His son will be denied any future internship in a US senator's office and I am sure he cannot sustain that loss.

 

[gazoomartian]

Though I think that this was a message given to address US public. But still.

We captured 5 US citizens from Gujranwala who traveled to Pakistan, leaving farewell video messages behind. And we caught them with real stuff, not fertilizers and propane gas that was termed as WMD by some US official. I wish someone from our side can tell US the same , that we want more, we expect more and there will be serious consequences.

But how can our FM issue such a statement. His son will be denied any future internship in a US senator's office and I am sure he cannot sustain that loss.

sorry brother, this is not a time to dispute the US or her statements by the Pak officials. They are questioning Faisel's father, and probably the whole neighborhood thru the FBI/CIA/FIA, can we do the same with David Heddley? NOT. We wouldnt dare even ask for it.

So we just have to take it easy and 'play along' with the jungle lion..... we are right now very vulnerable, no time to be brave

 

[rajakhanmd]

@gazoo

Lots of counter arguments can be made but I have noticed that you are one of the ''elders'' of this forum. And keeping my traditions alive, I am not going to respond. :)

 

[gazoomartian]

@gazoo

Lots of counter arguments can be made but I have noticed that you are one of the ''elders'' of this forum. And keeping my traditions alive, I am not going to respond. :)

good boy :24:

 

[gulzarhussain111]

<<united states of america IF PAK fails to act we will>>

WASHINGTON: If Pakistan failed to take appropriate actions against the Taliban, the United States will, US Attorney General Eric Holder said on Sunday as he and other American officials firmly blamed the Pakistani Taliban for a failed attempt to blow up a bomb in New Yorks Times Square.

dawn news latest

 

[shuja123]

ارمے پاکستان تنها محافظت پنجاب می باشد. انتقال به پنجاب اگر شما می توانید

 

[sangeen]

why was Faisal Shehzad on "no fly" list?????????????????

The dirty and greedy US politics at its best of propaganda.....

Iraq was invaded for false WMD alegations.
Afghanistan was targeted for 9/11 while Afghanistan has nothing to do with it.
Now they are staging stupid dramas to build the case against Pakistan.

"Hae jurm-e zaifi ki saza, marg-e mafajat"

 

[US State Department]

Fawad Digital Outreach Team US State Department​

يہ بات خاصی حيران کن ہے کہ کچھ تجزيہ نگار نيويارک ميں رونما ہونے والے واقعے کے ليے امريکی حکومت ہی کو ذمہ دار قرار دے رہے ہيں، باوجود اس کے کہ جس شخص پر الزام لگايا گيا ہے اس نے نہ صرف يہ کہ اپنا جرم قبول کر ليا ہے بلکہ اپنے ارادے بھی واضح کر ديے ہیں۔​

يہ امر قابل توجہ ہے کہ اگر اس واقعے کو امريکی سازش سمجھا جاۓ تو اس صورت ميں کتنے افراد کو اس سازش کی کاميابی کے ليے رازدار بنايا گيا تھا۔ کيا نيويارک کی سڑکوں پر موجود وہ عام لوگ بھی اس ميں شامل تھے جنھوں نے وين سے دھواں نکلتے ديکھا؟ کيا درجنوں سرکاری ايجينسيوں کے وہ سينکڑوں ماہرين بھی اس سازش کا حصہ تھے جنھوں نے اس واقعے کے وقوع پذير ہونے کے بعد فيصل شہزاد کو ڈھونڈنے اور اس کی گرفتاری تک کے عمل ميں معاونت کی؟ کيا حکومت پاکستان کے اعلی ترين عہديدار بھی اس سازش ميں شامل تھے جنھوں نے تفتيشی عمل کے تکمیل کے لیے ہر سطح پر تعاون کی يقين دہانی کروائ ہے؟ کيا يہ منطق قابل فہم ہے کہ اس سازش کو کامياب بنانے کے ليے يہ درجنوں ادارے، ماہرين اور مختلف شعبوں سے متعلق افراد مل کر کام کر رہے تھے؟​

سازش کی بنيادی اساس ہی يہ سوچ اور حقيقت ہوتی ہے کہ کم سے کم افراد کو اس حوالے سے خبر ہوتی ہے۔ اس کے برعکس نيويارک میں پيش آنے والے واقعے اور اس کے تفتيشی مراحل ميں تو امريکہ اور پاکستان کے بے شمار ماہرين، اعلی عہديدار اور حکومتی ترجمان براہراست ملوث رہے ہيں۔ اس لحاظ سے تو اتنے زيادہ افراد اور اداروں کی موجودگی ايک کامياب سازش کی بنيادی تعريف ہی کی نفی ہے۔​

اسی طرح بعض افراد کی جانب سے اس مبينہ سازش کی ممکنہ وجوہات کے حوالے سے بھی راۓ زنی حيران کن ہے۔ امريکی حکومت کو دہشت گردی کے ممکنہ خطرات کے حوالے سے آگہی دينے کے ليے کسی نۓ واقعے کی "تخليق" کی کوئ ضرورت نہيں ہے۔ آج کل کے دور ميں کوئ غير مرئ مخلوق ہی ہو گي جسے دہشت گردی اور اس کی خلاف جاری عالمی کوششوں کے بارے ميں کسی ياد دہانی يا اس کے وجود کے حوالے سے کسی ثبوت کی ضرورت ہو گی۔ يہ ايک ايسا اجتماعی خطرہ ہے جو کسی ايک ملک يا قوم کے خلاف نہيں بلکہ پوری انسانيت کے خلاف مشترکہ ہے۔​

ميں يہ بھی واضح کر دوں کہ جہاں تک امريکی حکومت کا تعلق ہے تو اس واقعے کے حوالے سے چارج شيٹ اور ذمہ داری اس شخص کی ہے جس نے جرم کا ارتکاب کيا ہے اس کے علاوہ وہ دہشت گرد اس کے ذمہ دار ہيں جو اس طرح کی سوچ اور نظريے کی ترويج ميں ملوث ہيں۔ اس واقعے کا حکومت پاکستان اور امريکہ کے مابين طويل المدت تعلقات پر کوئ اثر نہيں پڑے گا بلکہ اس واقعے نے امريکہ کے اپنے دوستوں اور اتحاديوں کے ساتھ مل کر دہشت گردی کے خاتمے کے ليے مصمم ارادے کو مزيد پختہ کر ديا ہے۔​

فواد ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ​

[email protected]​

www.state.gov​

 

[rajakhanmd]

US state department has someone on a digital out reach team for such forums. Really?

I thought I was the only with spare time.

 

[gazoomartian]

US state department has someone on a digital out reach team for such forums. Really?

I thought I was the only with spare time.

LOl fawad is a fultime employee of the US govt, assign to us as 'foreign language laision' of some sort. rest assured uncle sam hav enough money to pay him. Plus being a CIA operative, I am sure he has many many things to do at work

 

[kashnex]

fawad digital outreach team us state department​

يہ بات خاصی حيران کن ہے کہ کچھ تجزيہ نگار نيويارک ميں رونما ہونے والے واقعے کے ليے امريکی حکومت ہی کو ذمہ دار قرار دے رہے ہيں، باوجود اس کے کہ جس شخص پر الزام لگايا گيا ہے اس نے نہ صرف يہ کہ اپنا جرم قبول کر ليا ہے بلکہ اپنے ارادے بھی واضح کر ديے ہیں۔​

يہ امر قابل توجہ ہے کہ اگر اس واقعے کو امريکی سازش سمجھا جاۓ تو اس صورت ميں کتنے افراد کو اس سازش کی کاميابی کے ليے رازدار بنايا گيا تھا۔ کيا نيويارک کی سڑکوں پر موجود وہ عام لوگ بھی اس ميں شامل تھے جنھوں نے وين سے دھواں نکلتے ديکھا؟ کيا درجنوں سرکاری ايجينسيوں کے وہ سينکڑوں ماہرين بھی اس سازش کا حصہ تھے جنھوں نے اس واقعے کے وقوع پذير ہونے کے بعد فيصل شہزاد کو ڈھونڈنے اور اس کی گرفتاری تک کے عمل ميں معاونت کی؟ کيا حکومت پاکستان کے اعلی ترين عہديدار بھی اس سازش ميں شامل تھے جنھوں نے تفتيشی عمل کے تکمیل کے لیے ہر سطح پر تعاون کی يقين دہانی کروائ ہے؟ کيا يہ منطق قابل فہم ہے کہ اس سازش کو کامياب بنانے کے ليے يہ درجنوں ادارے، ماہرين اور مختلف شعبوں سے متعلق افراد مل کر کام کر رہے تھے؟​

سازش کی بنيادی اساس ہی يہ سوچ اور حقيقت ہوتی ہے کہ کم سے کم افراد کو اس حوالے سے خبر ہوتی ہے۔ اس کے برعکس نيويارک میں پيش آنے والے واقعے اور اس کے تفتيشی مراحل ميں تو امريکہ اور پاکستان کے بے شمار ماہرين، اعلی عہديدار اور حکومتی ترجمان براہراست ملوث رہے ہيں۔ اس لحاظ سے تو اتنے زيادہ افراد اور اداروں کی موجودگی ايک کامياب سازش کی بنيادی تعريف ہی کی نفی ہے۔​

اسی طرح بعض افراد کی جانب سے اس مبينہ سازش کی ممکنہ وجوہات کے حوالے سے بھی راۓ زنی حيران کن ہے۔ امريکی حکومت کو دہشت گردی کے ممکنہ خطرات کے حوالے سے آگہی دينے کے ليے کسی نۓ واقعے کی "تخليق" کی کوئ ضرورت نہيں ہے۔ آج کل کے دور ميں کوئ غير مرئ مخلوق ہی ہو گي جسے دہشت گردی اور اس کی خلاف جاری عالمی کوششوں کے بارے ميں کسی ياد دہانی يا اس کے وجود کے حوالے سے کسی ثبوت کی ضرورت ہو گی۔ يہ ايک ايسا اجتماعی خطرہ ہے جو کسی ايک ملک يا قوم کے خلاف نہيں بلکہ پوری انسانيت کے خلاف مشترکہ ہے۔​

ميں يہ بھی واضح کر دوں کہ جہاں تک امريکی حکومت کا تعلق ہے تو اس واقعے کے حوالے سے چارج شيٹ اور ذمہ داری اس شخص کی ہے جس نے جرم کا ارتکاب کيا ہے اس کے علاوہ وہ دہشت گرد اس کے ذمہ دار ہيں جو اس طرح کی سوچ اور نظريے کی ترويج ميں ملوث ہيں۔ اس واقعے کا حکومت پاکستان اور امريکہ کے مابين طويل المدت تعلقات پر کوئ اثر نہيں پڑے گا بلکہ اس واقعے نے امريکہ کے اپنے دوستوں اور اتحاديوں کے ساتھ مل کر دہشت گردی کے خاتمے کے ليے مصمم ارادے کو مزيد پختہ کر ديا ہے۔​

فواد ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ​

[email protected]​

www.state.gov​

mein nahi boldi meray vich tuhada visa bolda

 

[rajakhanmd]

The new statement by Ms Clinton.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Pak-knows-Osama-s-lair-says-Clinton/Article1-541916.aspx

Hamein kia bura tha merna agar aik baar hota.