Quran said it 1430 years ago, Science witnessed it 60 years Ago

Beynaam Shaks

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Its Atheist not Ethiest. This argument has nothing to do with Atheism as evolution is neither a proof or a disproof of the existence of the Creator. BTW which other two religions are going to be the first and the second most largest respectively?
 

ZenoInTheZoo

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dude, I explained that evolution states why we did not evolves from monkeys. Rather we had common ancestors, just like horses and donkeys and other similar species descended form a common ancestor. Go and read a few arguments against and for the theory from a scientific view. Then make up your mind.
Evolution theory does not prove or disprove that we are God's creation. No need to spin the argument that way.

Ethiest
Thats going to be third largest religion in west

First, the correct spelling is 'Atheist'.

Second, please avoid this edict distribution which is the job of our Mullahs like Move Fazl and we pakistani already have enough of them and I am sure you wont like to be branded with Molvi Fazl

Only, Allah knows or a properly trained Mufti who have been presented a detailed case for his examination and decision is in a position to give such a verdict.
 

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ایوالوشن کی تیروری کو غور سے پڑھ لو نئے اجادات کے ساتھ اس میں اسلام کے ساتھ کوئی تضاد نہیں- اب یہ ثابت ہوگیا ہے کہ
انسان بندر سے ایوالوشن نہیں ہوا بلکہ انسان کی شکل سے ملتی جلتی مخلوق تھی لیکن وہ جانوروں کی طرح تھی انسانوں جیسے سوچ سمجھ نہیں رکھتے تھے
- لیکن ہمیں اسکے باوجود بھی اللہ کی طرف سے نازل کتاب پر زیادہ بھروسہ ہونا چاہئےکیونکہ ہم مسلمان ہیں- سائنس کی تھیوری میں مسلسل تبدیلی ممکن ہے


بنگش بھائی ، الله قرآن واضح طور پر تخلیق آدم کی بات کرتا ہیں قرآن میں اور حضرت آدم کو علم عطا کیا اور دنیا میں اتارا ،کیسے وہ سمجھ بوجھ نہیں رکھتے تھے یا ان کو علم نہیں تھا ،الله ان کو اپنا پیغمبر کہتا ہے اور انسانیت کا باپ قرار دیا ہے ایسا کہنے والے تو خود شرف انسانیت کی توہین کر رہے ہوتے ہیں، قرآن اور سنّت میں کوئی ایسا حوالہ یا ریفرنس نہیں ملتا جہاں یہ بتایا گیا ہو کے اولین انسان کی صورت یا علم کس قسم کا تھا


 
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Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dude, I explained that evolution states why we did not evolves from monkeys.
Rather we had common ancestors, just like horses and donkeys and other similar species descended form a common ancestor. Go and read a few arguments against and for the theory from a scientific view. Then make up your mind.
Evolution theory does not prove or disprove that we are God's creation
. No need to spin the argument that way.

جب یہ ارتقائی نظریہ اس کو ثابت یا غلط نہیں کہتی تو کیوں نہ اس الله اپر ایمان لایا جائے جو یہ کہتا ہے کے میں کائنات کا رب ہوں ،دنیا میں ہر رنگ اور نسل کی مخلوق اس ننے پیدا کی ،جن کا ہم شمار بھی نہیں کر سکے ابھی تک ، یہاں تو سائنس ابھی تک جواب نہیں دے پائی .لیکن ہم نے اپنے آپ کو جانوروں میں شامل کرنا شروع کر دیا ،ذرا اپنے جسم کی سخت پر غور کیا جائے تو اس کو آپ نہیں جان سکتے ابھی تک ،ساری دنیا کا نظام کیسے جان سکتے ہیں ، اگر انسان ارتقائی عمل کا شکار ہے تو باقی مخلوق کے ساتھ یہ عمل کیوں نہیں ہوا ،یہ بات بھی سمجھ اور عقل سے بھی باہر ہے کہ الله تو ہمیں اشرف المخلوقات کا درجہ دیتا ہے اور ہم اپنی تخلیق کے بارے میں جواز ڈھونڈھتے ہیں ،حقیقت یہ ہے کہ جب ہم ایک را ہ سے ہٹ جائیں تو پھر کسی دوسرے راستے کا انتخاب کرنا مشکل ہو جاتا ہے ،اب آپ کہتے ہیں کہ ہمارے ساری مخلوق کے ایک ہی آبائو اجداد ،تو پھر یہ تبدیلیا باقی سب میں کیوں نہیں؟؟؟؟؟؟ ہر انسان کا رنگ ،نسل ،عادات ،اطوار ،اقدار ،صلاحیت ،مختلف ہو سکتی ہے ،جس نے زیادہ جدوجہد کی اس میں الله نے زیادہ صلاحیت پیدا کی ،اور یہ الله کی حکمت ہے ، آپ یہ کہ سکتے ہیں کہ آج سائنس کی ساری ترقی مغرب کے ہاتھ میں ہے تو کیا غیر مسلم ہونے کی وجہ سے الله ان کو اس محنت کا ثمر نہ دیتا ؟؟؟' ایسا نہیں ہے ،غیر مسلم بھی اسی ہی کی مخلوق ہے ،مسلمانوں نے یہ کام چھوڑ دیا تو الله نے یہ صلاحیتیں کسی اور قوم کے سپرد کر دیں ،ہم اگر الله کے قانون کی پیروی کریں گیں تو ہمارے راستے بھی کھول دے گا


 
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desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
the irony here is that those who themselves don't have any proofs about their version of evolution or whatever are saying that the darwin's theory of evolution is not correct and unproven.......
 

Irobot

Senator (1k+ posts)
Just read a biology book and you will understand that evolution is fact. Evolution never suggests mankind descended from monkeys but that monkeys, us and other primates had common ancestors. The remains found of our( nonhuman)ancestors confirm without a shadow of doubt that Evolution is an undeniable reality. There are some Muslims, Christians and Jews who believe in evolution and see no contradiction between evolution and their faith. The reason flu still kills people today is because the virus keeps evolving making a vaccine useless after every few years. Lastly how do you explain the common dna we share with other primates? The only way two creatures can share dna is when they have a common ancestor.


There are still missing links.
Till they are found. It can't be said we and primates had common ancestors.
 

Beynaam Shaks

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
This video is nothing but a stubborn man who refuses to acknowledge any scientific logic, instead he is just asking people and refusing to accept the fact that evolution takes millions of year for one distinct species to evolve to another. He asks a very limited question and refuses to listen and constantly interrupts the people he is interviewing. I would trust what science, solid evidence and undeniable logic suggests over a stubborn idiot who using false and repetitive logic to deny a fact.
 

Beynaam Shaks

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
the irony here is that those who themselves don't have any proofs about their version of evolution or whatever are saying that the darwin's theory of evolution is not correct and unproven.......
So true. The catholic church at one point claimed that earth was flat and imprisoned those who questioned the very flawed logic of the church. If your religious views go against logic, you have to eat a humble pie just as the church did and accepted that it was stubbornly denying the truth.
 

Irobot

Senator (1k+ posts)
This video is nothing but a stubborn man who refuses to acknowledge any scientific logic, instead he is just asking people and refusing to accept the fact that evolution takes millions of year for one distinct species to evolve to another. He asks a very limited question and refuses to listen and constantly interrupts the people he is interviewing. I would trust what science, solid evidence and undeniable logic suggests over a stubborn idiot who using false and repetitive logic to deny a fact.

This person simply asks for proof if there is any specie change which scientist know about.
Can you answer this question.

e.g. dog becoming a lion.
All they have is beak of bird became shorter, neck of giraffe became longer. Bacteria changed to another form of bacteria.
Is there any proof of specie change????
 

Beynaam Shaks

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
ffs, it takes millions of years for that happen. That guy was told and so were you but looks like science is only picked up by religious folks when it suits them and ignored it when it doesn't them.
 

imran_hosein_fan

Minister (2k+ posts)
The fact that we share DNA with our primate cousins. The ongoing evolution of modern day lizards. I can go on and on. Evolution is a fact. The fact that a new type of flu virus still kills people with immunisations.

this what u mentioned is called adaptation not evolution, darwin theory transformation from one kind into another, have u observed change of kind? u said flu virus, but still its a virus!
 

hans

Banned
when will we stop referring Quran to Current discovery.

If we were so smart we would have discovered all this 1430 years back.

With each discovery that back refers to Quran, it only show how stupid we as Muslims are.

So each discovery made and you find the reference in Quran, slap your own face hard.
 

Chaudhry_1960

Minister (2k+ posts)
مسلمانو نے 1400 سالون تگ یہ بات پرھ کر کیا اکھار لیا ؟ اخر میں کافروں نے ہی پتہ لگایا اس بات کا اور تم خامخواہ بھنگڑا ڈال رہے ہو
 

Sadia Hashmi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Just read a biology book and you will understand that evolution is fact. Evolution never suggests mankind descended from monkeys but that monkeys, us and other primates had common ancestors. The remains found of our( nonhuman)ancestors confirm without a shadow of doubt that Evolution is an undeniable reality. There are some Muslims, Christians and Jews who believe in evolution and see no contradiction between evolution and their faith. The reason flu still kills people today is because the virus keeps evolving making a vaccine useless after every few years. Lastly how do you explain the common dna we share with other primates? The only way two creatures can share dna is when they have a common ancestor.

here u missed some parts of that picture.
the human genome is packed with million of genes that resides in DNA. DNA gets response from frequency that can b vibrated by mindfulness,thoughts,living conditions,food,and climatic conditions. that y species/creatures/ share dna.
 

ali-raj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Think of this evolution stuff in a different manners.

People were taller, stronger, healthier, thinner & had longer life span in older times. With the passage of time , comfortable environment evolved them to smaller, weaker, fatsome with lower life span human. This is the basic evolution. if someone consider that due to our wishful thinking of flying will evolve us in human with wings is just absurd. (or one must wait for million years)

Thinking of Monkeys as close cousin is suitable only for those who like to act like a monkey.

It is clear to Muslims that there were all kind of biological beings on earth before Adam A.S (fire was already there at that time, as holy scriptures from jews, christians & Muslims states that He was trained by Gabriel A.S to cultivate, create cloth etc, not make fire) but they were devoid of any evovled thinking patterns or Mind as we call it today.

Lizard is evolving according to its habitat. But it cannot transform into a full fledge Eye Candy whom a man can marry. but my evolution struck friends can still put thier bucks on her as they did with monkeys :) and helped spread the AIDS
 

ali-raj

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This person simply asks for proof if there is any specie change which scientist know about.
Can you answer this question.

e.g. dog becoming a lion.
All they have is beak of bird became shorter, neck of giraffe became longer. Bacteria changed to another form of bacteria.
Is there any proof of specie change????

Yaar, Don't ask about the proof. Beak is getting shorter, neck is going longer, bacteria changing etc. He isn't able to claim the change in public. Just get the hint that beak is getting shorter and shorter by every passing day ;)
 

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