PMLN or East India company?? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired

affanpervez

Minister (2k+ posts)

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1996n main PML-N nai sarai international investors ko bhaga dia tha and they also abandoned the thar coal saying it is expensive and due to the dispute of fraction of cents the Chinese company left the country. Today they planning to sell the country to chinese.

"But after the change of Government in 1996, the new Govt decided that they were going to focus on Hydel Power instead and coal power was not needed, the then serving Petroleum Minister went on record to announce this sudden and dramatic policy shift in 1996/97. All these international companies were therefore driven away, sustaining huge losses. Current lack of interest by international mining companies is largely due to lack of credibility, primarily caused by Government policy inconsistencies rather than any deficiency in the resource base of Thar Coal. Much is made of the story of the Chinese company Shenhua which did a preliminary feasibility study of Thar coal but decided not to pursue the project further allegedly on disagreement with proposed tariff."


http://www.opfblog.com/9533/pakistan’s-thar-coal-a-comparative-study/


Earlier PML-N annouced worlds heaviest tariff for Coal power:


NEPRA approves ‘world’s heaviest’ tariff, incentives for coal power plants
ISLAMABAD: The National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (NEPRA) has approved Rs 1.50/unit heavy hike in the upfront tariff of the coal power plants and also offered lucrative incentives/benefits for installation of coal power plants in the country, exclusive documentary evidence reveals.

Official documents available with Daily Times disclose that the Water And Power Ministry, in a review petition, requested NEPRA to accord approval for the tariff and many other benefits. And, as a result, the authority has approved Rs 1.50/unit increase in the upfront power tariff for establishing coal power plants in the country. According to documents, the regulatory authority, while jacking up the tariff, has fixed an upfront tariff of 8 to 9.67cent per unit for coal power plant of 200MW, while 8 to 9.54cent/unit for a power plant of 600MW, and 8 to 9.11 cent/unit for coal power plant of 1,100MW.

Similarly, the authority has set 8.50cent/unit for coal power plant that will run on Thar coal. Official sources said that NEPRA has approved world’s heaviest tariff and other benefits, if compared with the tariff and other benefits so far given to the coal power plants installed in various parts of the globe with a view to tap alternative sources of energy to meet the power demand. “Local, and even foreign, power companies cannot find such lucrative tariff and weighty incentives for investing in the coal power generation plants anywhere across the world,” a senior official said.

He added that this attractive upfront tariff and other incentives have been given apparently only because of the governmental deadline of 2017. ThePML-N government has so far made tall claims that power load shedding would witness an end by 2017 in the country. The tale of NEPRA benefiting the investors who are likely to install coal power plants in the country does not end here, as the regulator has also jacked up return on equity by 10 percent, which was earlier set at 17 percent, and now it has risen to 27 percent for the imported coal.

And, return on equity for local coal has also been increased by 9 percent, which was earlier fixed at 20 percent, and with NEPRAs approval it has reached at 29 percent. “Similarly, the return on equity has been offered at 36.66 percent for Thar coal, which has so far no example in the world,” sources said. He added that instead of increasing the efficiency of the coal power plants for generation purposes NEPRA has decreased by 3 percent only to benefit the investors which has now reached at 42 percent.

“Owing to the concerns raised by Chinese investors, Ministry of Water and Power has submitted a review plea with NEPRA,” an official at the Power Ministry said on the condition of anonymity. It must be noted here that Water and Power Secretary Saifullah Chatha himself briefed the authority during a public hearing of the authority, which also has no example in the past. The secretary assured the regulator that the Chinese investors are ready to invest only if it issues the amended tariff.


http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/nation...viest-tariff-incentives-for-coal-power-plants

This has been further raised with guaranteed 31.5 % rate of return in dollars to make someone happy


Nepra revises upfront tariff for coal-fired power plants


KARACHI: The National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (Nepra) has revised the upfront tariff for coal-fired power plants, official document revealed on Wednesday.

The authority considered the government of Pakistan’s reconsideration request dated February 11 and Thar Power Company’s request dated January 24, regarding the revision in the determination of the authority in the matter of upfront tariff for coal-fired power plants and revised the tariff, it showed.

According to the revised determination, the levelised tariff for a 220MW imported coal-fired plant would be 8.6417 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.6774 cents/kWh for locally financed projects, while the tariff for 330MW Thar coal, foreign financed project would be 8.5015 cents/kWh, according to the document.

The levelised tariff for a 220MW local coal-fired plant would be 8.2537 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.2978 cents/kWh for locally financed projects, it showed.

The levelised tariff for a 660MW imported coal-fired plant would be 8.3601 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.5422 cents/kWh for locally financed projects. The levelised tariff for a 660MW local coal-fired plant would be 8.0116 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.21 cents/kWh for locally financed projects, it revealed.

The levelised tariff for 1100MW imported coal-fired plant would be 8.0189 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.1198 cents/kWh for locally financed projects. The levelised tariff for 1100MW local coal-fired plant would be 7.6738 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 8.7897 cents/kWh for locally financed projects.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-Ne...es-upfront-tariff-for-coal-fired-power-plants
 
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Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

Zardari was Mr 10% , Nawaz is Mr 100%
 

پرفیکٹ سٹرینجر

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

یہ پاگل کہتا تھا ۔ ڈالر 127 پر آجائے گا۔ ۔ ۔
مخالفت برائے مخالفت

تیرا پائی نواز کا ملازم۔ تو عمران کا ملازم ۔ ۔
وہ کہے تیری پارٹی غلط ہے ۔ تو کہے اس کی پارٹی غلط ہے ۔

حد ہو گئی ہے ۔ دونوں بھائی دونوں گھروں سے کمائی

 

handsome.ebi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یہ پاگل کہتا تھا ۔ ڈالر 127 پر آجائے گا۔ ۔ ۔ مخالفت برائے مخالفت تیرا پائی نواز کا ملازم۔ تو عمران کا ملازم ۔ ۔ وہ کہے تیری پارٹی غلط ہے ۔ تو کہے اس کی پارٹی غلط ہے ۔ حد ہو گئی ہے ۔ دونوں بھائی دونوں گھروں سے کمائی
oo daleel ke alambardar yeh tumhara daleel se jawab ha?? chawlain marnee me tumhara koi sani nai or daleel daleel karte phirte ho
 

جمہور پسند

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

ASAD UMER saying has no importance...he is a master of distorting facts..

IF PML-N is a commission Mafia as he say, then ASAD UMER family is part of it.

Father a General and nominated in Hamood ur rehman comission for Massacare of Bangalis, Two brothers in PMLN, himself in PTI... They are a big mafia themselves..

 
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پرفیکٹ سٹرینجر

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

oo daleel ke alambardar yeh tumhara daleel se jawab ha?? chawlain marnee me tumhara koi sani nai or daleel daleel karte phirte ho

آپ اگر میری رائے سے متفق نہی تو مخالفت میں اپنی رائے دلیل سے دیں۔

یہ عقل کب آئے گی ؟

 

affanpervez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

یہ پاگل کہتا تھا ۔ ڈالر 127 پر آجائے گا۔ ۔ ۔
مخالفت برائے مخالفت

تیرا پائی نواز کا ملازم۔ تو عمران کا ملازم ۔ ۔
وہ کہے تیری پارٹی غلط ہے ۔ تو کہے اس کی پارٹی غلط ہے ۔

حد ہو گئی ہے ۔ دونوں بھائی دونوں گھروں سے کمائی



15 % sai barha kar 31.5 % return rate????????? Hai aap kai pass is noora logic ki koi dalel.

Khud tow in kai Pasai bahar hain aur in kai kartotoon ki wajha sai aaj har Pakistani Rs. 85000 ka makrooz ho chuka hai.
 

handsome.ebi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
آپ اگر میری رائے سے متفق نہی تو مخالفت میں اپنی رائے دلیل سے دیں۔ یہ عقل کب آئے گی ؟
asad umer ne jo kaha ha uc ka jawab dene ke bajaye apni hi chawlain mar raye ho, ab tumhari daleel kya satu pee ke soo raye ha??
or asad umer jo kah raha ha woh meri raye ha uc ka jawab do
 

chandaa

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

EAST India company :lol: They are family LTD company :lol:
 
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

Its a very big Issue....... Pakistan on sale
31% return (cry)
 

shahbaz tariq

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

asad umar ny jo kha usy chor dien... meri DALEEL check karo... :biggthumpup:
 

پرفیکٹ سٹرینجر

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

15 % sai barha kar 31.5 % return rate????????? Hai aap kai pass is noora logic ki koi dalel.

Khud tow in kai Pasai bahar hain aur in kai kartotoon ki wajha sai aaj har Pakistani Rs. 85000 ka makrooz ho chuka hai.

اس کا جواب یہ ہے کہ اگر دال روٹی چلانی ہے تو شرائط ماننی ہونگی۔ ابھی اس قابل نہی ہوئے ہو کہ خود کو دوسرے ممالک کے برابر رکھ کر بات کرو۔

 
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

I think some one from PMLn's finance group must respond to these allegations, now there is a chance to give incentive to investors but is this way out of line incentive?

I know in western countries, interest rates can kick ones arse if they do not have good credit, I am sure paks credit rating is definitely not something to be proud of but again, is 31% way too out of line?
Some one from inside only knows until then its just yapping from PTI or from me
 
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affanpervez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

اس کا جواب یہ ہے کہ اگر دال روٹی چلانی ہے تو شرائط ماننی ہونگی۔ ابھی اس قابل نہی ہوئے ہو کہ خود کو دوسرے ممالک کے برابر رکھ کر بات کرو۔

Ghulam apnai aap ko haqeer hi samajhtai hain. Pakistan ki ahmeat ka puchna hai tow kisi Shaheen sai pucho.

Nahi tera nasheman kasrai sultani k gumbad par
Tow Shaheen hai baisaira kar paharo ki chatano par
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

یہ پاگل کہتا تھا ۔ ڈالر 127 پر آجائے گا۔ ۔ ۔
مخالفت برائے مخالفت

تیرا پائی نواز کا ملازم۔ تو عمران کا ملازم ۔ ۔
وہ کہے تیری پارٹی غلط ہے ۔ تو کہے اس کی پارٹی غلط ہے ۔

حد ہو گئی ہے ۔ دونوں بھائی دونوں گھروں سے کمائی


OK he was wrong on Dollar parity
But you have chosen to comment on this thread, so quoting you
Please stick to the topic...

Which country in the world offers 30 percent ROI,
and that too with Soveriegn Gurantees
Just Give one example ..

Yeh Tou PPP Say Bhi Bara Dakka Hai...
 
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

اس کا جواب یہ ہے کہ اگر دال روٹی چلانی ہے تو شرائط ماننی ہونگی۔ ابھی اس قابل نہی ہوئے ہو کہ خود کو دوسرے ممالک کے برابر رکھ کر بات کرو۔


Kuch Sharm Ker Jao Khud Ko Tu Nooray ke Hath Bach Dia Hai Per Ismulk Ko Tu Na Becho........... Abi Tak Jitny Plants lagay Hain Woo 15% P lagay hain aur Ab 31%.. Ismulk Se 15% return wali IPPS Bardash Nahi Ho Rahen Zara Shocho 31% return Pe Ismulk ka kia Bany Ga

Ismulk Pe Rehm Kro
 

جمہور پسند

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

Ghulam apnai aap ko haqeer hi samajhtai hain. Pakistan ki ahmeat ka puchna hai tow kisi Shaheen sai pucho.

Nahi tera nasheman kasrai sultani k gumbad par
Tow Shaheen hai baisaira kar paharo ki chatano par

When will PTI govt stop taking USAID funding in KPK ?
 
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

poori video bhi nahin hai aur jab tak N League ka moaqaf nahin aaye ga tab tak is ki koi importance nahin hai, Dhandli khan ke kisi chamcha ke kisi blame koi importance nahin...is ilzam ki poori tehqeeq honi chahiye ,,filhaal yeh sirf BS* hai
 
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

poori video bhi nahin hai aur jab tak N League ka moaqaf nahin aaye ga tab tak is ki koi importance nahin hai, Dhandli khan ke kisi chamcha ke kisi blame koi importance nahin...is ilzam ki poori tehqeeq honi chahiye ,,filhaal yeh sirf BS* hai

App Full Program Dekh Loo. Aur Noon Ka Muqaf Pesh Ker Do Ager Koi Hai tu..... Gujjar Dhokeh Bazo Ko Apna Leader Banao Gay Tu Dhoka Hi Kaho Gay
 

پرفیکٹ سٹرینجر

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.


OK he was wrong on Dollar parity
But you have chosen to comment on this thread, so quoting you
Please stick to the topic...

Which country in the world offers 30 percent ROI,
and that too with Soveriegn Gurantees
Just Give one example ..

Yeh Tou PPP Say Bhi Bara Dakka Hai...

یہ لوگ جب مثالیں دیتے ہیں انڈیا کی بنگلہ دیش کی تو یہ بات مدنظر رکھی جائے کہ وہ ملک اپنے پیروں پر کھڑے ہیں۔ وہ آئی ایم ایف ہو یا ورلڈ بینک ، ان سے گفت شنید کے ذریعے اپنے بات منوا لیتے ہیں۔

لیکن پاکستان جو سال پہلے دیوالیہ ہونے کے قریب تھا۔ اس قابل نہی کہ مرضی منوا سکے ۔ کل اگر پاکستان کا خزانہ بھرتا ہے تو پھر یہی قرضہ دینے والے منتیں کریں گے ۔


خیبرپختون یوایس ایڈ لے کر تبدیلی لانے کی طرف گامزن ہیں۔
وہ بھی کشکول توڑ دینے کی بات کرتے تھے ۔

کیا منافقت ہے
 
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