Please Stop Saying "HELLO" any more on Mobile or Telephone..

Bret Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Baseless and illogical News Report

One of the most irresponsible and outrageous pieces of news one can ever witness and plus with no sources quoted along with any authentic proof. Even if its established that the Saudi clerics have issued this religious decree on the subject matter of the abomination of the usage of this tiny little genial word of “Hello” then surely there are no limits of ignorance on the part of such so called Ulemas or Imams of Saudi kingdom. The history and etymology of this word in almost every major lexicon works of modern day English does not establish any sort of connections between Hell and Hello and therefore we have to cast away this piece of news with full confidence but bearing this in mind that being a Muslim one should use the Islamic method of greeting and salutations when he / she meet with someone. For the purpose of clarification for some of the members here I would like to paste the brief explanation of this word Hello to make the facts straight to them;



First Usage

Hello, with that spelling, was used in publications as early as 1833. These include an 1833 American book called The Sketches and Eccentricities of Col. David Crockett, of West Tennessee, which was reprinted that same year in The London Literary Gazette.The word was extensively used in literature by the 1860s.

Etymology

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, hello is an alteration of hallo, hollo, which came from Old High German "hal, hol, emphatic imper[ative] of haln, holn to fetch, used esp[ecially] in hailing a ferryman." It also connects the development of hello to the influence of an earlier form, holla, whose origin is in the French hol (roughly, 'whoa there!', from French l 'there').

Telephone

The use of hello as a telephone greeting has been credited to Thomas Edison; according to one source, he expressed his surprise with a misheard Hullo. Alexander Graham Bell initially used Ahoy (as used on ships) as a telephone greeting. However, in 1877, Edison wrote to T.B.A. David, the president of the Central District and Printing Telegraph Company of Pittsburgh:

Friend David, I do not think we shall need a call bell as Hello! can be heard 10 to 20 feet away. What you think? Edison - P.S. first cost of sender & receiver to manufacture is only $7.00.By 1889, central telephone exchange operators were known as 'hello-girls' due to the association between the greeting and the telephone.

Hullo

Hello may be derived from Hullo, which the American Merriam-Webster dictionary describes as a "chiefly British variant of hello," and which was originally used as an exclamation to call attention, an expression of surprise, or a greeting. Hullo is found in publications as early as 1803. The word hullo is still in use, with the meaning hello.

Hallo

Hello is alternatively thought to come from the word hallo (1840) via hollo (also holla, holloa, halloo, halloa). The definition of hollo is to shout or an exclamation originally shouted in a hunt when the quarry was spotted: Fowler's has it that "hallo" is first recorded "as a shout to call attention" in 1864.

It is used by Samuel Taylor Coleridge's famous poem The Rime of the Ancient Mariner written in 1798

And the good south wind still blew behind, But no sweet bird did follow, Nor any day for food or play Came to the mariners' hollo!

Hallo is also German, Norwegian, Dutch and Afrikaans for Hello.
If I fly, Marcius,/Halloo me like a hare. Coriolanus (I.viii.7), William Shakespeare

Webster's dictionary from 1913 traces the etymology of holloa to the Old English halow and suggests: "Perhaps from ah + lo; compare Anglo Saxon ealā."

According to the American Heritage Dictionary, hallo is a modification of the obsolete holla (stop!), perhaps from Old French hola (ho, ho! + la, there, from Latin illac, that way). Hallo is also used by many famous authors like Enid Blyton. Example:"Hallo!", chorused the 600 children.


The Old English verb, hǽlan (1. wv/t1b 1 to heal, cure, save; greet, salute; gehǽl! Hosanna!), may be the ultimate origin of the word. Hǽlan is likely a cognate of German Heil and other similar words of Germanic origin. Bill Bryson asserts in his book Mother Tongue that "hello" comes from Old English hl bo u ("Hale be thou", or "whole be thou", meaning a wish for good health).


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tauseef-it

MPA (400+ posts)
اسلام وعليكم ورحمةالله وبركاته

Khan Bhai ! Bhot Shukriya aap ne itni achi information share ki
ALLAH aap ko is ka Ajar de

AAMEEN.....
 

lovely_pk

Banned
Hmmm.. Give me a Break dude.. Please don't let other decide to what you should do. We are mature enough to understand the meaning Of Hello. I grew up in Saudi and i know what kind of mentality/mindset those People have. Why don't they give Fatwa on the crimes commited by their Royal Families on daily basis ?
 

Desi_Action

Banned
'Hello' is Haraam Now

nt2l8wdj:tw1
 

BuTurabi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: comment on it

[MENTION=8740]awan4ever[/MENTION]​

مزید وضاحت درکار ہے:۔

آیا غیر مُسلموں مثلاً ہندو مشرکین، یہودیوں اور لادینوں کو بھی السلامُ علیکم کہا جا ئے یا اُ
نہیں ہر کال میں بات شُروع کرنے سے پہلے ہی ہیلو کہ کر جہنمی ہونے کی نویدِ مُسرت دی جائے؟





 
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zshan1

MPA (400+ posts)
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yeh kaun say angrez hain jo phone pay hello nahi boltay? main nay Engalnd main to kabhie nahi dekhe koi doosra country ho to pata nahi.
 

patriot

Minister (2k+ posts)
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اگر یہ خبر صحیح ہے تو ان علما کی عقل پر فاتحہ پڑھنے کو جی چاہتا ہے۔
اور ساتھ میں إِنَّا لِلّهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَا جِعونَ
 

MR_Khan

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: 'Hello' is Haraam Now


Personally, Mujhay Imam-e-kaaba say umed to nahi hai aisi baat ki, but agar waqaye aisa huwa hai to main in 70 ulama ko kahonga kay khuda k liyay apni mastiyoon say bahar niklain, Musalman dunya main bhookay mar rahay hain(somalia/eithopia etc) khudara ummat k bhalay k liyay kuch kaam karain, naakay baseless issues pay fatway martay rahain, south punjab main aap loog terorrist paal rahay hain, logoon ko unchay neechay painchoon main laga rakha hai, logo ko aik dosray ko kafir kehnay main lagaya huwa hai. YAHAN CANADA MAIN HAR GORA DOSRAY KO NA SIRIF PHONE PAY BALKAY AAMNAY SAMNAY BHI HELLO KEHTA HAI,CHAHAY JAHIL HO YA PARHA LIKHA, mainay kai gooron ko HELLO bola, wesay molana sahab agar koi gora bhi kisi ko HELLO kahay ga aur iska matlab wo janta hai jesa k aapnay bataya to aaj ye saray angrez aapas main lar lar kay marjatay, but afsoos ye Musalman nahi jo apas main larain:)
 

zshan1

MPA (400+ posts)
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waisay bhi english dictionary main HELLO ka matlab "greetings" ya "to attract someones attention kay hain".

Abb agar Arab Scholars english words ki explanation dene lug gaye to phir English scholars bhi Arabic literature ko apni marzi kay meanings day kay jo chaahay marzi propoganda kur lain.
 

BuTurabi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: 'Hello' is Haraam Now


ہینگ لگی نہ
پھٹکڑی سواد بھی چوکھا آئے


اِس فتوے کی افادیت اور گہرائی ناپنے کی صلاحیت تو مُجھ میں نہیں لیکن اِس میں خُفیہ دانائی یہ ہو سکتی ہے کہ وہ لوگ جو سارا دِن دوسروں کو جہنمی جہنمی پُکارتے ہیں آج کیبعد اُنہیں ایک مُتبادل لفظ دستیاب ہے اب وہ راہ چلتے کِسی بھی جہنمی کو ہیلو کہہ کر گُزر سکتے ہیں۔ نہ فساد کا خطرہ نہ چِھترول کا ڈر۔



رنگ


 
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BuTurabi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: 'Hello' is Haraam Now

Personally, Mujhay Imam-e-kaaba say umed to nahi hai aisi baat ki, but agar waqaye aisa huwa hai to main in 70 ulama ko kahonga kay khuda k liyay apni mastiyoon say bahar niklain, Musalman dunya main bhookay mar rahay hain(somalia/eithopia etc) khudara ummat k bhalay k liyay kuch kaam karain, naakay baseless issues pay fatway martay rahain, south punjab main aap loog terorrist paal rahay hain, logoon ko unchay neechay painchoon main laga rakha hai, logo ko aik dosray ko kafir kehnay main lagaya huwa hai. YAHAN CANADA MAIN HAR GORA DOSRAY KO NA SIRIF PHONE PAY BALKAY AAMNAY SAMNAY BHI HELLO KEHTA HAI,CHAHAY JAHIL HO YA PARHA LIKHA, mainay kai gooron ko HELLO bola, wesay molana sahab agar koi gora bhi kisi ko HELLO kahay ga aur iska matlab wo janta hai jesa k aapnay bataya to aaj ye saray angrez aapas main lar lar kay marjatay, but afsoos ye Musalman nahi jo apas main larain:)


آپ سے ایسے غیر شرعی قِسم کے سوالات کی ہر گِز اُمید نہیں تھی۔ آج سارا دِن دِل بُجھا بُجھا رہیگا:(۔
 

AliTepu

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: 'Hello' is Haraam Now

aesi baatain hum school ma suna krte thay jb bachay hr roz koi ni baat le k ate thay


i was not expecting this from a grown man.:P


*facepalm*
 

Ali raza babar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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مزید وضاحت درکار ہے:۔

آیا غیر مُسلموں مثلاً ہندو مشرکین، یہودیوں اور لادینوں کو بھی السلامُ علیکم کہا جا ئے یا اُسے ہر کال میں بات شُروع کرنے سے پہلے ہی ہیلو کہ کر جہنمی ہونے کی نویدِ مُسرت دی جائے؟




O Bhai rehnay do those bloody stupid Mullahs will keep us thinking about peanuts
 

simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: 'Hello' is Haraam Now

inka maqsad thai mullahs ko galiyan dilwana ....
چور چوری سے جائے ہیرا پھیری سے نا جاۓ، جناب لبرل صاحب نے کم از کم ڈیڑھ سال پرانی خبر لگا کر کیا کمال کیا ہے؟
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: 'Hello' is Haraam Now

inka maqsad thai mullahs ko galiyan dilwana ....

اور چودہ سو سال سے دوسروں پر کفر اور ارتداد کے فتوے چست کرنے والے گنگا میں ہاتھ دھونے کا موقع جانے دیتے
 

simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
if someone would had provide fatwa with it number then it would easier & better to find authenticity of it. but no one able to do that and just start talk bla bla.

according to my search i had found two fatwas on word hello as below.

source

The first question of Fatwa no. 6370
Q 1: Nowadays, people are careless in greeting one another with Salam (Islamic greeting of peace) "Al-Salamu `Alaikum (peace be upon you)". Many people reply saying: "Hi" or "Hello". Would you kindly advise us regarding this?
A: Initiating the Salam is an act of Sunnah (whatever is reported from the Prophet). It is a way of honoring one another, reminding Muslims of their Creator Who is called "Al-Salam". It unites Muslims' hearts, spreads love among them, and involves asking for safety for them. It is authentically reported in Sahih Book of authentic Hadith by Muslim on the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said,
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"By Him in whose Hand my soul is! You will not enter Paradise until you believe; you will not (truly) believe until you love each other. Shall I show you to something that if you observe it, you would surely love one another? Propagate the “peace” (Salam) among you."
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(Part No. 24; Page No. 118)
returning Salam must be with the same wordings and adding more words is a Sunnah. Allah (Exalted be He) says:
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When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or (at least) return it equally.​
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It is related by Al-Nasa'y and Al-Tirmidhy on the authority of `Imran ibn Al-Husayn (may Allah be pleased with him) that
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A man came to the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) and greeted him saying, "O Messenger of Allah! Al-Salamu `Alaikum (peace be upon you)" and he replied to him. When the man sat down, the Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "Ten (good deeds)." Another man came and greeted him saying, "O Messenger of Allah! Al-Salamu `Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi", and the Prophet (Peace and Mercy be upon him) replied. When the man sat down, the Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "Twenty." A third man came and greeted him saying, "Al-Salamu `Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh (Peace, Mercy and Blessings of Allah be upon you)", and the Prophet responded to him. When the man sat down, the Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "Thirty".
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As for returning Salam by saying "Hi" and "Hello", this is not sufficient.
May Allah grant us success. May peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and Companions.
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