Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi

Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

ab tak to trafic one way thi sirf pti ki bakwas suni parti thi ,i am happy pml n is exposing these culprits of pti
ab traffic 2 way howi ha ab pata chala ga pti kitni saaf ha.
Kia yahi ha hamri youth ki value ka eik joyari ko apna representative bana lein.......................

good man, lets c k app PTI ki corrouption kub pakarte ho....
Secondly meri jaan, Juwa and Stock excahnge is treated differently in Pakistani socities.... If i recommend you to buy the shares of "Samsung" bcoz it gonna win the market next year and it does .... then what would you say that smasung has won due to my efforts... No, as a expert i sold my opinion and u followed...
The same happened with IK, the guy paid for IK opinion about the macth and he won as IK recommendations were right ( after all he was successfull cricket and knows about cricket). now think
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

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[TD="class: small_txt"] ISLAMABAD: Law Minister Babar Awan’s two major arguments that $60 million Swiss accounts allegation is hypothetical and investigations in Switzerland were unilateral are in complete contradiction to his own previous statements, as well statements of top PPP leaders, spokesmen for the present PPP government, Swiss officials and of the Swiss bank.

As the existence of $60 million Swiss accounts in the name of Asif Ali Zardari is concerned, the following is the official statement of Daniel Zappelli, Swiss chief prosecutor, made on August 26, 2008 to the media, as reported by the official website of Reuters: “Pakistan’s government recently dropped out of all related cases it had initiated in Switzerland against Asif Ali Zardari. Zappelli said the full $60 million in assets, seized at the request of the Pakistan authorities, had been released”.

“All the money has been unfrozen. For money-laundering to be proven, you have to show it was the product of a crime,” Zappelli told Reuters, adding: “Pakistan has withdrawn its requests for judicial assistance and has said it has no claim on the frozen assets,” he said.

The very next day to these happenings in Geneva, the spokesperson of the government in Islamabad Sherry Rehman officially admitted that there were cases against Zardari and that he possesses certain assets and accounts there. Her statement, she made publicly in front of video cameras of different TV channels, is in conflict with today’s statement of Babar Awan and his present statements which gave an impression that in fact neither there were any cases against Zardari in Switzerland nor were there any ceased or frozen assets in his (Zardari’s) name which later were unfrozen.

While Zappelli stated in Geneva on Aug 26, 2008 that cases against Zardari had been dropped and accounts of $60 million were unfrozen, Sherry in Islamabad stated on Aug 27, 2008 after attending an important cabinet meeting that Swiss courts have not only closed the cases against Zardari and exonerated him but have also released his assets and unfrozen his accounts which proves that Mr Zardari was innocent. Babar Awan forget to explain as towards which accounts and assets in Switzerland, Mr Zappelli and Ms Sherry were pointing out in their official statements in the last week of August 2008.

Babar Awan has once himself informed this correspondent about Benazir Bhutto’s appearances in Switzerland courts to face the allegations of money laundering and record her statements so it was very hard to understand that why Babar Awan on Tuesday said that investigations in Switzerland were unilateral.

Citibank itself had submitted evidence in the US Congressional Committee on Money Laundering in 1999 that the amount belonged to Asif Ali Zardari.

Citibank informed the Subcommittee that the Swiss Form A, a government-required beneficial owner identification form, identified Mr Zardari as the beneficial owner of each PIC, which had this money in the bank.

Mr Rukavina, then head of the Citibank private bank, told the US Subcommittee staff that when he was asked about opening the Zardari accounts, he did not make the decision to open them, but rather directed that the matter be discussed with Mr Sharma.

Citibank informed the subcommittee staff that the private bank was aware of the allegations of corruption against Mr Zardari at the time it opened the accounts in Switzerland. However, Citibank reasoned that if the charges for which Mr Zardari had been incarcerated for two years had any merit, they would not have been dropped. Bank officials also believed that the family wealth of Ms Bhutto and Mr Zardari was large enough to support a large private bank account, even though Citibank was not able to specify what actions were taken to verify the amount and source of their wealth.

Citibank said bank officials were also aware of the MS Capricorn Trading account in Dubai, and they were comforted by the fact that there had been no problems with that account. According to Citibank, Mr Amouzegar informed his superiors that Mr Zardari was the beneficial owner of the Capricorn account in Dubai when they were considering the request to open the accounts in Switzerland.

Inexplicably, however, the Dubai account manager was apparently still operating under the assumption that the beneficial owner of the Dubai Capricorn account was a member of the Dubai royal family. Subcommittee staff has been unable to determine whether Citibank officials were unaware of or inattentive to the serious inconsistency between Citibank Switzerland and Citibank Dubai with respect to the Capricorn Trading account.

Citibank also informed the subcommittee staff that bank officials had some concerns that if they turned down the accounts, their actions may have implications for the corporation’s operations in Pakistan; however, they said they never received any threats on that issue.

Citibank told the subcommittee staff that the private bank decided to allow Mr Schlegelmilch to open the three accounts for Mr Zardari on the condition that the private bank would not be the primary accounts for Mr Zardari’s assets and the accounts and transaction restrictions requiring the accounts to function as passive, stable investments, without multiple transactions or funding pass-throughs.

None of the Citibank personnel interviewed by the subcommittee staff could identify any other private bank account with these types of restrictions. Other private banks interviewed by the subcommittee staff were asked if they had ever accepted a client on the condition that certain restrictions be imposed on the account. The all banks said they had not. One bank representative explained that if the bank felt that it needed to place restrictions on the client’s account, it didn’t want that type of client. The existence of the restrictions are in themselves proof of the private bank’s awareness of Mr Zardari’s poor reputation and concerns regarding the sources of his wealth.

Citibank told the subcommittee staff that, once opened, only three deposits were made into the MS Capricorn Trading account in Dubai. Two deposits, totalling $10 million were made into the account almost immediately after it was opened. Citibank records show that one $5 million deposit was made on October 5, 1994, and another was made on October 6, 1994. The source of both deposits was ARY International Exchange, a company owned by Abdul Razzak Yaqub, a Pakistani gold bullion trader living in Dubai. Mr Razzak denies, however, making any payments to Mr Zardari.

Citibank could not explain the two $5 million payments. Ms Bhutto told the subcommittee staff that since ARY International Exchange is a foreign exchange business, the payments did not necessarily come from Mr Razzak, but could have come from a third party who was merely making use of ARY’s exchange services.

Citibank told the subcommittee staff that Mr Holderbeke signed a memo delineating the restrictions placed on the accounts, including a $40 million aggregate limit on the size of the three accounts, and transaction restrictions requiring the accounts to function as passive, stable investments, without multiple transactions or funding pass-throughs.

On December 5, 1997, Citibank prepared a Suspicious Activity Report on the Zardari accounts and filed it with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network at the US Department of Treasury. The filing was made 14 months after its decision to close the Zardari accounts; 13 months after Mr Zardari was arrested a second time for corruption in November 1996, and nearly two months after the Swiss government had ordered four Swiss banks (including Citibank Switzerland) to freeze all Zardari accounts.

In June 1998, Switzerland indicted Mr Schlegelmilch and two Swiss businessmen, the former senior executive vice president of SGS and the managing director of Cotecna, for money laundering in connection with kickbacks paid by the Swiss companies for the award of a government contract by Pakistan. In July 1998, Mr Zardari was indicted for violation of Swiss money laundering law in connection with the same incident. Ms Bhutto was indicted in Switzerland for the same offence in August 1998.
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pk legend

Voter (50+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

I WANT PUT ONE PROGRAM WITH HANIF abbasi THEN I LET HIM :angry_smile:
 

brilTek

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

Email address of Kashif Abbasi required?

PTI should need to boycott his program if kashif abbasi can't give equal time to all respondents.

He is senior anchor and he can't control two 'bhunds' ? he should give the call of 'SHUT UP' to hanif abbasi when he said to Dr Humayun 'k app naye naye aayee hain'

Hanif Abbasi --- the only MMA member who left the part for POWER --- a classical example of 'LOOOTA'



---
brilTek
 

feddy

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Pakistani Politicians have gone crazy against IK, watch today's Khashif Abbasi show.

@ khosa,, q mere bahi jub HUM KHYAL pml-n se miley to woh lota nahi ? aur jub shah mehmood qureshi PTI join kerna chahe to woh lota WAQAYE YEAH KHULA TAZAD HAI
 

anyie1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

ik has really created a tsunami in the politicians,,,,,,,,,,,,look what they are doing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they can see themselvs out of this loot business and they can not digest it,
 

pakistanstube

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

Hanif Abasi what happened to you to day, you look like Raza Abdi, Kamal Ali Agaha, Shermial Farooqi, Abid Sher Ali, MQM who say . Punjabi Mujra and Gunjan. setc. etc
 

feddy

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

faisal raza adidi uruf MARSYA PARHNE WALE BABEY meri bat sun , zarori nahi hai ke youth ko youth ikhata kerey , mujhey meri baton ka jawab dedey bahi

QUAID-E-AZAM ke sath bhi youth thi kia woh young they?
ALLAMA IQBAL ne youth ko jagaya kia woh young they?
LIAQUAT AI KHAN kia young they but sari youth un ke sath thi ?

aur jis youth ki tum bat ker rahe ho jo tumhar so called leader hai US KO URDU BOLNA SIHAO PHELEY , AUR US KO PURA MULK TO CHORO NAWAB SHAH HI GHUMADO PURA phir laker leader banana,
 

saeed khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

I am sure there will be alliance of PMLN & PPP against PTI in coming elections. :lol::lol:
 
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mak1981

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

LOL i remember once Hamid Gul was on Kamran shahid program and he is also the same.
Hamid Gul got a little angry at this and said "why did you call me to your program when you dont want to listen"
And then he was quite for a while :)



Humaayun was very civil as it should be, its the ****** anchor that I totally despise, not just Kashif, any anchor who do not let people finish and give them time 1 by 1. Shahid Masood and all otehrs are jaheleenand idiots.

Months ago Masood had Gen Hamid Gul on the show. I wrote to him that he should get some education in journalism and let the guest finish his sentence. If you know everything why bother bringing them.

For next two shows he was alright then started being stupid again
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

I am sure there will be alliance between PMLN & PPP against PTI in coming elections. :lol::lol:

There already is. Friendly Opposition, and all that. Do not put anything beyond these lotas

To fans of PTI and IK. expect worse, much much worse, the more threated they feel the more desperate they will behave, and when they can see their own destruction, like rats, they will desert the sinking ships that are PML and PPP
 

rao69

Citizen
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

wtf??????????give me seat of spokes man i will defend it nd will gave all anwer to them to all bstabds......just give em one chance......................
 

ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

ohay IK yeh tu nay kia ker dia, poray mulk kay politician pagal ker deay. ha ha ha ha . I was thinking what IK can do without in power, once inshallah he became PM than whole Pakistan politics will be change. yeh hoti hai aik honest person ki power.
(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

These r criminals. no education.

Haneef Abassi and Abdi , people will tear u , just wait for few months, if u will talk in these manners after Karachi Jalsa.

We are so much fed up of these criminal....
 

Username

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

I always said, PML N is the LEAST tolerant party in Pakistan. Shareef Bros and Extended Family including Ishaq Dar cant tolerate opposition or even a little critique. PML N, if comes in power, will be stricter to media and rigid to opposition.
 

smssr84

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

ufff tubha!!!.... PPP and PMLN are going nuts!... they dont have any answer to anything.... phir chikh chikh keh baat manwani hai!!.... Dr. Humayun is shareef insaan.... Kashif should have been more involved!!.... they are to scared to be labeled has Imran Khan's supporters!!!
 

Just_one

Banned
Re: Off The Record - 14th November 2011 - Zulfiqar Mirza, Hanif Abbasi & Faisal Raza Abidi - Zardari Go!!!

Khasif Abbasi is an incompetent anchor. He could not rein in the barking dog of PMLN, ie, Hannif Abbasi.
 

saeed khan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Pakistani Politicians have gone crazy against IK, watch today's Khashif Abbasi show.

There is going to be an alliance of PMLN & PPP against PTI for the coming elections.
 

Awais Cheema

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: Pakistani Politicians have gone crazy against IK, watch today's Khashif Abbasi show.

PTI A struggle of great man
 

GreenMaple

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Pakistani Politicians have gone crazy against IK, watch today's Khashif Abbasi show.

The divide between status-quo and anti-status-quo is becomming clearer by the day. All parties and politicians who benefitted from the existing system are ganging up agaist PTI to prevent change, but they will fail, Inshallah. The TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL...
 

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