Mqm / altaf hussain ki challakian

[rahat]

When West Pakistan wanted freedom from East Pakistan current Bangladesh.
Why West Pakistan working at that time for enemy.
Why West Pakistan current Pakistan wanted Freedom, from East Pakistan current Bangladesh.

The main reason of seperation of East Pakistan is the development of sence of deprivation and isolation in the peoples of east Pakistan since independence. It is a historical fact that the foundation of Bangladesh was laid in 1948 by the Urdu Language Bill by the Muslim League 1948.
It starts When Liaqut Ali Khan in 1948 Urdu instituted as the official national language of Pakistan even though only a pitifully small fraction of Pakistanis spoke the language. In the widely cited 1961 census results, it was reported that Urdu was the mother tongue of a mere 3.7% of all Pakistanis. The protest against the Urdu started in Bangal and the Language Movement began in 1948 and reached its climax in the killing of 21 February 1952, and ended in the adoption of Bangla as one of the state languages of Pakistan.
Since 1952, 21 February has been observed every year to commemorate the martyrs of the Language Movement. With UNESCO adopting a resolution on 17 November 1999 proclaiming 21 February as international mother language day. It is honors bestowed by the international community on the Language Movement of Bengalis peoples. It is the fact that whenever a head of stat visit Bangladesh, he prays tributes to Shaheed of Bangla movement monument in Dacca.
The other factors is over investment by the government on Karachi and other cities and ignoring the development of East Pakistan depriving them their rights

 

[Jury]

The main reason of seperation of East Pakistan is the development of sence of deprivation and isolation in the peoples of east Pakistan since independence. It is a historical fact that the foundation of Bangladesh was laid in 1948 by the Urdu Language Bill by the Muslim League 1948.
It starts When Liaqut Ali Khan in 1948 Urdu instituted as the official national language of Pakistan even though only a pitifully small fraction of Pakistanis spoke the language. In the widely cited 1961 census results, it was reported that Urdu was the mother tongue of a mere 3.7% of all Pakistanis. The protest against the Urdu started in Bangal and the Language Movement began in 1948 and reached its climax in the killing of 21 February 1952, and ended in the adoption of Bangla as one of the state languages of Pakistan.
Since 1952, 21 February has been observed every year to commemorate the martyrs of the Language Movement. With UNESCO adopting a resolution on 17 November 1999 proclaiming 21 February as international mother language day. It is honors bestowed by the international community on the Language Movement of Bengalis peoples. It is the fact that whenever a head of stat visit Bangladesh, he prays tributes to Shaheed of Bangla movement monument in Dacca.
The other factors is over investment by the government on Karachi and other cities and ignoring the development of East Pakistan depriving them their rights

After independence Quaid-e-Azam said in clear cut words that the national language of Pakistan would be Urdu. He said:
Let me make it clear that the national language of Pakistan is going to be Urdu and no other language . Without one state language no nation can remain tied up solidly together.

Despite he couldn't speak Urdu as good as English, but, conscience was clear. What language should be declared native language? May be all the languages in Pakistan should have considered national language. According to all the three constitutions of 1956, 1962, 1973, English is the official language. Urdu is the national NOT official language. But, it didn't effect the daily life, even now, Pakhtoon, Sindhi, Punjabi, Balochi, Saraiki, etc. speaks there native language. If not urdu, what language should adopted to communicate all the Pakistanies.

Now a days, only that language which has power to generate capital only that language is used. After the arrival of Indian Movies in Pakistan, in late 70s, Urdu has prevailed more in Pakistan. And after the new channels arrival like ARY, DUNYA, GEO, AAJ, EXPRESS, etc. Urdu language got another boost up. They didn't open the Urdu language channel for SAWAB-E-DAREN, they know the potential of Urdu across the globe. Even Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashto channels are, now adopting some urdu talk shows, because of its potential. In this scenario decision of making Urdu mother language looks good.

Now a days, it is clear only that language will remain, who has potential of generating capital. Even if it is Urdu.

As far Bangladesh is considered, they showed magnanimity by agreeing on the fund on PARITY basis. Despite they were in majority. You should have known, when Capital was shifted from Karachi, and what conscience was behind. But, it was not the beginning. How liquiat Ali Khan first prime minister of Pakistan was eliminated. Not only him but also his murderer Saad Akbar Babrak, to close the chapter.

Like today in Pakistan, Bangali was not happy with Punjabi establishment. They were treated like a third grade citizen. They were made fun. Who made atrocities in East Pakistan is not a secret. They started freedom movement but no one cares. Because, they were not belong to feudal classes. There was a fear of Land reforms in Pakistan, and entering of common man coming to politics like east Pakistan.

 

[rahat]

[size=200]How you can say that the nations can not be survived without one language. In the world there are a lot of countries including the most developed countries, which has more than one national languages.
Urdu was a strange language for the most of the peoples of the Pakistan and in particular to Bangalas. The imposition of Urdu by Liaquat Ali Khan laid down the foundation of Bangladesh. After which the beaurcary which was mostly belongs to Urdu speaking peoples occupied these offices adopted polices aimed to invest and develop only Karachi despite the fact most of the GDP was created by the remote areas of east and West Pakistan.
In this way there was a frustration in the peoples of remote areas against the urban and privileged classes. The most representative of well off classes were belongs to the urban sindh i.e. Karachi (Urdu speaking) and Punjab urban due to bigger share in army.
This frustration can also be observed in the oppressed classes belongs to other nations whose mother tongue is not urdu.[/size]

 

[Jury]

How you can say that the nations can not be survived without one language. In the world there are a lot of countries including the most developed countries, which has more than one national languages.
Urdu was a strange language for the most of the peoples of the Pakistan and in particular to Bangalas. The imposition of Urdu by Liaquat Ali Khan laid down the foundation of Bangladesh. After which the beaurcary which was mostly belongs to Urdu speaking peoples occupied these offices adopted polices aimed to invest and develop only Karachi despite the fact most of the GDP was created by the remote areas of east and West Pakistan.
In this way there was a frustration in the peoples of remote areas against the urban and privileged classes. The most representative of well off classes were belongs to the urban sindh i.e. Karachi (Urdu speaking) and Punjab urban due to bigger share in army.
This frustration can also be observed in the oppressed classes belongs to other nations whose mother tongue is not urdu.

I didn say, It was Quaid-e-Azam said.
And I say,
Now a days only that language will survive which has ability to generate capital.

Don't accuse Liquiat Ali Khan East Pakistan Separation. The murder of Liaquiat Ali Khan was the foundation of Bangladesh. East Pakistan was a threat to current Pakistan. Just like MQM. Because, common man from East Pakistan are coming in Assemblies. No feudalism in East Pakistan, which was not digestible In Pakistan. West Pakistan bureaucracy love for East Pakistan only because of there wealth. Ask Bengalies, who they accuse. Ask former Bureaucrats, politicians. Even after media influx, often mention in talk shows. Especially people from Punjab.

In start Urdu speaking were in Bureaucracy. And, what happened in Ayob Era and after are also a part of history. Why Bangali have been accusing Punjabi establishment? Forget Bengalis, ask Balochis, what they think.

 

[PakPatriot1]

This is an absolute non-sense to talk against Urdu Language.

A time is coming when a Punjabi party PMLN will be in power in Pakistan. I urge all Punjabi supporters then to ask NS to declare Punjabi as the national language of Pakistan. We will have no problem. But ask a Baluchi first when he will talk to a Punjabi which language he will use? Baluchi? or Punjabi? or unfortunately Urdu?

These JAHILS don't understand that Urdu in Pakistan is same as English in the world - both are link languages within their own domains. You want to ignore this fact? please do so and show your inner filth against urdu speaking people.

I don't know how far this journey of hatred will go in Pakistan.

 

[rahat]

Urdu is the lanugage of the a small miniorty of Pakistan. All the other national lanugages are the representative of the majority of the peoples of Pakistan. Urdu was a strange language to the majority of the peoples of Pakistan till the creation of Pakistan. They use different created phased languages for communications between the different nations of the Pakistan.

As far Quaid is concerned, he asked to adopt Urdu as the communication language between different nations of the Pakistan and all the nations of Pakistan accepted the Quaid vision. But it was the Liquat Ali Khan who tried to impose Urdu as the official national language of Pakistan in the early days of Pakistan. The result we all know was the lying foundation of Bangladesh. After that the polices adopted by the ruling elite mostly comprising of Urdu speaking adopted polices which created sense of depriving and ignorance o the other nations of Pakistan and in particular to Bangalis.
The over investment in Karachi and accumulation of wealth, infrastructure to serve a certain group of peoples widen the gap between the Urdu speaking and other nations of Pakistan. It is the main reason why all these nations has the image of Urdu speaking community as the Privileged Class.
This is the responsibility of all of us including me as I also belong to the Urdu speaking community to take practical steps to show our relation with the other nations and support them in their development of infra-structures of the remote ignores areas of Pakistan, who are the real creator of national wealth.

 

[PakPatriot1]

Urdu is the lanugage of the a small miniorty of Pakistan. All the other national lanugages are the representative of the majority of the peoples of Pakistan. Urdu was a strange language to the majority of the peoples of Pakistan till the creation of Pakistan. They use different created phased languages for communications between the different nations of the Pakistan.

As far Quaid is concerned, he asked to adopt Urdu as the communication language between different nations of the Pakistan and all the nations of Pakistan accepted the Quaid vision. But it was the Liquat Ali Khan who tried to impose Urdu as the official national language of Pakistan in the early days of Pakistan. The result we all know was the lying foundation of Bangladesh. After that the polices adopted by the ruling elite mostly comprising of Urdu speaking adopted polices which created sense of depriving and ignorance o the other nations of Pakistan and in particular to Bangalis.
The over investment in Karachi and accumulation of wealth, infrastructure to serve a certain group of peoples widen the gap between the Urdu speaking and other nations of Pakistan. It is the main reason why all these nations has the image of Urdu speaking community as the Privileged Class.
This is the responsibility of all of us including me as I also belong to the Urdu speaking community to take practical steps to show our relation with the other nations and support them in their development of infra-structures of the remote ignores areas of Pakistan, who are the real creator of national wealth.

This is all about an Indian agent's propaganda. A try to deepen the hatred among pakistanis. Urdu is no more issue in pakistan and this Indian mentality is creating chaos here. I don't think any good Pakistani will be impressed by these kinds of anti-Pakistan postings.
Urdu is Pakistan's national language written in Pakistan's constitution. Indians have no right to talk on this issue. PERIOD

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Gheeeeeeeeeee !!! what these kindergarten kids are doing here ?? Playing in the nursery.....Leave the Urdu Language alone , kids..... I know MQM stars will blame everything on Punjabi's and their Language while the supporters of PMLN will look around to find anyone not involved to get them involved.

Every soul in Pakistan likes to speak in Urdu Language.I have visited Punjabi families and was surprise to hear when they talked to their kids , they like to use Urdu Language insted of their mother tongue Punjabi. So , don;t blame Punjabi now to somehow subotaging Urdu Language.

 

[PakPatriot1]

What are the cementing forces in Pakistan to keep this nation united?

Correct me if I am wrong:

1- Islam
2- Urdu Language

Right?

If any one of us goes against any of these, can we afford to listen to that bastard?

 

[MHASHMI]

The uniting force in any nation is the Just and fair system.
A nation cant survive without having an equal opportunity just system. We should promote to expose the corrupt elements and their agents in the society which includes the rulers politicians, and parties including MQM, army and civil beaurcreay, traders, businessmens, industrialists, feudal lords etc.
Don't mix up the issue and divert it but go ahead in the right direction to expose the real culprits in the society in order to eliminate them and in establishing a just and fair system

 

[PakPatriot1]

The uniting force in any nation is the Just and fair system.
A nation cant survive without having an equal opportunity just system. We should promote to expose the corrupt elements and their agents in the society which includes the rulers politicians, and parties including MQM, army and civil beaurcreay, traders, businessmens, industrialists, feudal lords etc.
Don't mix up the issue and divert it but go ahead in the right direction to expose the real culprits in the society in order to eliminate them and in establishing a just and fair system

Yes, you are right. Here I am with you if we expose and condemn the corrupt political system in pakistan. I didn't mix up the issue. This you or your other name Mr. Rahat who always got derail in the discussion. Rather you suddenly start spitting your inner filth on Urdu Speaking community. Some time you put blame on them that they are the stupids who support and vote MQM, some times you label them previledged class and some time you start cursing Urdu language as it is a language of previledged class impose on Pakistan unnecessarily. With the name of MQM you just want to defame and make Urdu speaking people aloof from rest of the pakistani people. Your intention is to corner the Muhajir people and fill the brains of young generation' of Pakistan with the hatred against Muhajir people so that you can rift apart this nation and you will be able to full fill your Indian agenda.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Yes, you are right. Here I am with you if we expose and condemn the corrupt political system in pakistan. I didn't mix up the issue. This you or your other name Mr. Rahat who always got derail in the discussion. Rather you suddenly start spitting your inner filth on Urdu Speaking community. Some time you put blame on them that they are the stupids who support and vote MQM, some times you label them previledged class and some time you start cursing Urdu language as it is a language of previledged class impose on Pakistan unnecessarily. With the name of MQM you just want to defame and make Urdu speaking people aloof from rest of the pakistani people. Your intention is to corner the Muhajir people and fill the brains of young generation' of Pakistan with the hatred against Muhajir people so that you can rift apart this nation and you will be able to full fill your Indian agenda.[/quote]


In God's name tell me how MQM become the party of all urdu speaking people of Pakistan ( Karachi) ? We are against MQM and its goons. And that is also only because of their anti Pakistan activities and Bhutta Khori and dead bodies business.So, please don't become a custodian of Urdu Speaking population of Karachi using MQM's affiliations. Majority of these people in Karachi have known the activities of MQM for a longer time and paid the price in desserted businesses and everyday strikes in Karachi.

 

[PakPatriot1]

Yes, you are right. Here I am with you if we expose and condemn the corrupt political system in pakistan. I didn't mix up the issue. This you or your other name Mr. Rahat who always got derail in the discussion. Rather you suddenly start spitting your inner filth on Urdu Speaking community. Some time you put blame on them that they are the stupids who support and vote MQM, some times you label them previledged class and some time you start cursing Urdu language as it is a language of previledged class impose on Pakistan unnecessarily. With the name of MQM you just want to defame and make Urdu speaking people aloof from rest of the pakistani people. Your intention is to corner the Muhajir people and fill the brains of young generation' of Pakistan with the hatred against Muhajir people so that you can rift apart this nation and you will be able to full fill your Indian agenda.

In God's name tell me how MQM become the party of all urdu speaking people of Pakistan ( Karachi) ? We are against MQM and its goons. And that is also only because of their anti Pakistan activities and Bhutta Khori and dead bodies business.So, please don't become a custodian of Urdu Speaking population of Karachi using MQM's affiliations. Majority of these people in Karachi have known the activities of MQM for a longer time and paid the price in desserted businesses and everyday strikes in Karachi.[/quote]

In God's name tell me how MQM become the party of all urdu speaking people of Pakistan ( Karachi) ?

Thanks to realize that MQM is the party of all pakistanis. Our message is spreading :lol: :lol: :lol

 

[rahat]

In God's name tell me how MQM become the party of all urdu speaking people of Pakistan ( Karachi) ?

Are you so blind that you can not read the sentence correctly.