Modi , Nehru, Hindu Psyche and Kashmir issue

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Hindus policy and Hindu lot is strange . Historically they were fragmented , in disarray and usually inward looking . If you do not mind caste prejudice , if you do not mind widow burning ,if you do not object to ban on widow remarriage which led to downward caste reclassification , if you do not mind their being tied to a superstitious life and horoscopes , their child marriage ,their idols including those of phalluses , then you can regard them otherwise as a civilized lot .

Hindu family structure is strong , sons are more under thumb of fathers than Muslim families . But political conduct of Hindus during partition was really strange , on one hand Nehru congress wanted no pakistan and save india as one unit , but on ground Hindu families were sending their youngsters enmasse to India before partition , then even after partition according to Azad ,it seemed that Patel had no interest in saving Muslims within India , only Gandhi and Mountbatten had some interest in stopping pogroms and slaughter.

It appears to me that Nehru was looking was a dynasty rule and did not want either any reconciliation with Muslims which might endanger his dynasty of PM ship , nor was he averse to quiet ethnic cleansing but superficially he was nice to muslims .

Regarding kashmir there were several factors which caused problem , Muslim league was not well entrenched , Kashmiris were led to believe they can be independent ,and man called sheikh Abdullah called himself another Quaid E Azam . This was against logic , here was a Muslim dominated state which could not get rid of a Rajah dynasty in 100 years and now it was dreaming of getting rid of great Hindu and Muslim federations of the larger India . Kashmiri's greatest enemy is self confidence with no basis on ground .

If today Pakistani federation were to wound up , Indians will buy local kashmiris out in a few decades and will physically change local Muslim ratio like China did in Xingian when Pakistan was busied with India in 1964 by Bhutto .

The attitude of India towards Pakistan would be much unfriendlier if Saudia and GCC regimes were not there , similar Kashmiris will be no where if Pakistan disintegrates ever and is not replaced by a strong nuclear Punjab military state either .

On a personal level Hindus of today are not the same as those of fifty years back , during our parents time they would not miss an oppertunity to oppose Muslim rise ,individually or nationally but even then personal friendships existed .

Modi is trying to be another complicated Nehru , obliging , soft , razor sharp , risk taker but he is underestimating Pakistani power like his Nehru .
 
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ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Good article but little bit on the passimisive when it talks about breakage of Pakistan, In recent past Pakistan has gone through worst of times including extremists and terrorists. And has come out of it with flying colours, had it been India it would have broken up in million pieces, as the history of Coro panic tells us the real Hindu rulers.

So Pakistan is here to stay and it will flourish by leaps and bounds, it is future of Pakistan that it got a General it has and there are better times to come as China has invested and it is burning India swerely, why because they are a king with worst prejudices, worst class system and strsnge leaders.
 

RAW007

Banned
Good article but little bit on the passimisive when it talks about breakage of Pakistan, In recent past Pakistan has gone through worst of times including extremists and terrorists. And has come out of it with flying colours, had it been India it would have broken up in million pieces, as the history of Coro panic tells us the real Hindu rulers.

So Pakistan is here to stay and it will flourish by leaps and bounds, it is future of Pakistan that it got a General it has and there are better times to come as China has invested and it is burning India swerely, why because they are a king with worst prejudices, worst class system and strsnge leaders.


chalo 68 years me ek general mila to gaya hai . khushi ki baat hai . musharraf ki tarah faltu ke adventure me na pad jaye , kargil ki tarah.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
chalo 68 years me ek general mila to gaya hai . khushi ki baat hai . musharraf ki tarah faltu ke adventure me na pad jaye , kargil ki tarah.

One general who is in will take care of these anti Pakistsni elements and to do so he would even go as far as South Africa and also to talk about Gen. Musharraf who is so aggressively good for India, have you not seen his TV interviews in India, I challenge you to send one of your Generals to be interviewed by. Pakistani TV. They will never set foot in Pakistan. They are chickens.
 
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Londoner/Lahori

Minister (2k+ posts)
MODI GOT A FRIEND(clap) noora is a curse on pak nation.. India kills (shaheeds) 5 pak nationals by indiscriminate firing. Para military force(border rangers)rejects the sweets offered to them by indians on eid... Guess what???? Noora sends mangoes as apology to modi to protect his business interests and brings shame on the pak nation.... And ghadar media is silent about it, why?????? Figure out yourselves!!!!!! IT WILL BE A JOY TO KNOW THAT MODI (HE IS A PATRIOT) THREW THOSE HARAM KAY MANGOES IN THE BIN...
 

RAW007

Banned
MODI GOT A FRIEND(clap) noora is a curse on pak nation.. India kills (shaheeds) 5 pak nationals by indiscriminate firing. Para military force(border rangers)rejects the sweets offered to them by indians on eid... Guess what???? Noora sends mangoes as apology to modi to protect his business interests and brings shame on the pak nation.... And ghadar media is silent about it, why?????? Figure out yourselves!!!!!! IT WILL BE A JOY TO KNOW THAT MODI (HE IS A PATRIOT) THREW THOSE HARAM KAY MANGOES IN THE BIN...


tumhari ankh me motiabind ki bimari hai kya ? font thora chhote rakha karo .

india ke ilawa baki mulk iran, afghanistan , china bhi tumhare dehashat gard aur ghuspathio se pareshan hai .
pakistani infiltrators sneak illegally in other countries and do subversive activities of terrorism . pakistanis are notorious in this field ,
that is why every country start fire when ever isi ghuspathias are trying to cross borders.
recently iran fired on pakistanis.

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...=A2ZkWS4W05HD2eQIWoj7qw&bvm=bv.98476267,d.dGo


 

RAW007

Banned
One general who is in will take care of these anti Pakistsni elements and to do so he would even go as far as South Africa and also to talk about Gen. Musharraf who is so aggressively good for India, have you not seen his TV interviews in India, I challenge you to send one of your Generals to be interviewed by. Pakistani TV. They will never set foot in Pakistan. They are chickens.



ha ha ha..........................what are you talking ?[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

you pakistanis are famous for bongabaji on tv .

to talk nonsense on tv is bravery for you pakistanis , whole world knows .

ha ha ha ..............boasting on a tv is bravery for pakistanis .:lol:

look how brave your generals piss when they see indian fighter planes .

 

RAW007

Banned
One general who is in will take care of these anti Pakistsni elements and to do so he would even go as far as South Africa and also to talk about Gen. Musharraf who is so aggressively good for India, have you not seen his TV interviews in India, I challenge you to send one of your Generals to be interviewed by. Pakistani TV. They will never set foot in Pakistan. They are chickens.


look bravery of pakistan ................ha ha ha :lol::lol::lol:

sale shor itna machate hai lagta hai qatl kar denge ...........................:lol::lol::lol:

jab asli ladaee ka mauka ata hai to fat jati hai .[hilar][hilar][hilar]





look another examlple of pakis abusing one another , no actual fights . just like generals they talk big no action.

 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
look bravery of pakistan ................ha ha ha :lol::lol::lol:

sale shor itna machate hai lagta hai qatl kar denge ...........................:lol::lol::lol:

jab asli ladaee ka mauka ata hai to fat jati hai .[hilar][hilar][hilar]





look another examlple of pakis abusing one another , no actual fights . just like generals they talk big no action.



Kia tumharey kaan is shore say jalney lagtey hain, agar Aisha hay to Kanoo per patient bandy lo, or un Ka Ilan larvao. Dude you bring in these TV discussion groups from Pakistan but forget that every one anchor in Pakistan there are 10 in your country who shout, exegerate and down right lie about every thing, it is shameful what they do.

So stop your spinnings and try to be truthful so that a healthy discussion can take place.