Mike Roger's considers ' Pakistan to be a military with a country, not a country with a military.'

[Lodhi]

'Sympathisers' within both Pak military, ISI aided Osama bin Laden: Mike Rogers

Washington, June 15(ANI): Elements of Pakistan's military and intelligence service assisted al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden before he was killed in a US raid on his Abbottobad hideout on May 2, the US House Intelligence Committee chief has said.
"I believe that there are elements of both the military and intelligence service who in some way, both prior and maybe even current, provided some level of assistance to Osama bin Laden," The Washington Times quoted Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, who recently returned from a visit to Pakistan, as saying.
Rogers, who met with Pakistan Army chief General Ashfaq Pervaiz Kayani and Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Director-General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, said that he knew of no evidence that implicated Pakistan's political and military leadership in harboring bin Laden at a compound located within yards of a prestigious Pakistani military academy.
However, recent news reports indicating that insurgents were tipped off in advance to a military raid on a site used for building roadside bombs suggested that Pakistan's military and ISI had 'some level of extremist sympathisers', he added.
"I do believe, I think the recent news report on the compounds highlights there is some level of sympathizers within the ISI, within the local police departments, within the way they would handle that piece of information, there are certainly sympathizers, and I think you can extrapolate that on a proactive side to the fact that Osama bin Laden was in Abbottobad for nearly five years," Rogers said.
He also said that US Embassy operations were being hindered by Pakistan's military in some cases, and that Pakistan needed to be more transparent and allow US intelligence officials access to detainees.
"Now is the time to put more pressure on Pakistan to do the right thing," he added.
Rogers also said that he considered Pakistan to be a "military with a country," not a country with a military. For now, the military has not chosen to strengthen its alliance with the United States against al Qaeda and the Taliban following the bin Laden raid.
"They could have said 'we are going to redouble our efforts with the United States, we are going to fight extremism, we are going to fight terrorism, we are going to join with you as partners to try to remove the extremist and dangerous elements in Pakistan that we know have targeted the United States in the past,'" he said.
"That would have been the outcome we looked for, thats the outcome we were hoping for, thats the outcome we were advocating for with Pakistan. Unfortunately, I think my trip confirmed for me and all the intelligence I see that is not the Pakistan that we find ourselves with today," he added. (ANI)

http://my.news.yahoo.com/sympathisers-within-both-pak-military-isi-aided-osama-065325538.html

 

[Truth-seeker]

Re: 'Sympathisers' within both Pak military, ISI aided Osama bin Laden: Mike Rogers

Taliban creaters in CIA too!!!!!:P

 

[victim]

Re: 'Sympathisers' within both Pak military, ISI aided Osama bin Laden: Mike Rogers

What about the double game America is playing with Pakistan

 

[Mullah Omar]

Re: 'Sympathisers' within both Pak military, ISI aided Osama bin Laden: Mike Rogers

ISI is a professional intelligence agency. It is not possible that "someone" in the ISI was aiding bin laden without the knowledge of the agency so either ISI was completely involved or it was not. Even if there are some "sympathisers" in Pak army at least they are not sympathysing with America which is without the doubt the biggest and most hypocritical terrorist country on the planet.

 

[M_Adnan.L]

Rogers: Pakistani services aided bin Laden

By Eli Lake

The Washington Times

Elements of Pakistan's military and intelligence service assisted Osama bin Laden before he was killed during the recent U.S. raid on his
Abbottobad hideout, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said on Tuesday.

I believe that there are elements of both the military and intelligence service who in some way, both prior and maybe even current, provided some level of assistance to Osama bin Laden, said Rep. Mike Rogers, Michigan Republican and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, who recently returned from a visit to Pakistan.

Senior Obama administration officials have said they are investigating bin Ladens support network in Pakistan and whether there was official government support. U.S. officials also have said there were no signs that senior Pakistani government officials knew about bin Ladens compound.

The comments go beyond what Mr. Rogers said previously. Last month he told CNN that Pakistani military element may have supported bin Laden.

Mr. Rogers, who met in Pakistan with Lt. Gen. Ahmad Shuja Pasha, the head of ISI, and Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the chief of Pakistan's military, said he knew of no evidence that implicated the political and military leadership of Pakistan in harboring the al Qaeda leader at a compound located within yards of a prestigious Pakistani military academy.

He said however that recent news reports indicating insurgents were tipped off in advance to a military raid on a site used for building roadside bombs suggested Pakistan's military and ISI are were compromised.

I do believe, I think the recent news report on the compounds highlights, there is some level of sympathizers within the ISI, within the local police departments, within the way they would handle that piece of information
there are certainly sympathizers and I think you can extrapolate that on a proactive side to the fact that Osama bin Laden was in Abbottobad for nearly five years.

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates told Associated Press that the United States was disappointed and suspicious about a tipoff, but does not believe Pakistani officials disclosed information about the raid to the al Qaeda-linked Haqqani insurgents.

We dont know the specifics of what happened, Mr. Gates said on Monday. There are suspicions and there are questions, but I think there was clearly disappointment on our part.

Mr. Rogers said Pakistan has yet to make a decision after the U.S. raid against bin Laden to redouble the countrys efforts to fight terrorism. He said that U.S. Embassy operations were being hindered by Pakistan's military in some cases. He also said the country needed to be more transparent and allow U.S. intelligence officials access to detainees.

Now is the time to put more pressure on Pakistan to do the right thing, he said.

Mr. Rogers said he considered Pakistan to be a military with a country, not a country with a military. For now, the military has not chosen to strengthen its alliance with the United States against al Qaeda and the Taliban following the raid on bin Ladens compound.

They could have said we are going to redouble our efforts with the United States, we are going to fight extremism, we are going to fight terrorism, we are going to join with you as partners to try to remove the extremist and dangerous elements in Pakistan that we know have targeted the United States in the past,
he said.



That would have been the outcome we looked for, that
s the outcome we were hoping for, that
s the outcome we were advocating for with Pakistan. Unfortunately I think my trip confirmed for me and all the intelligence I see that is not the Pakistan that we find ourselves with today,
he added.

Mark Schneider, the senior vice president of the International Crisis Group, said Mr. Rogers is correct to criticize the Pakistani military. But he added that the civilian government should not have to pay for the misdeeds of the army.

It is the Pakistani military that has refused to do this, not the elected civilian government, he said. If you are going to put conditions on the relationship, we should find a way to put conditions on the military.



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/14/rogers-pakistan-military-intel-aided-bin-laden/

 

[Mullah Omar]

As I posted in the other thread:

ISI is a professional intelligence agency. It is not possible that "someone" in the ISI was aiding bin laden without the knowledge of the agency so either ISI was completely involved or it was not. Even if there are some "sympathisers" in Pak army at least they are not sympathysing with America which is without the doubt the biggest and most hypocritical terrorist country on the planet.​

 

[shamsheer]

Rogers: Pakistani services aided bin Laden

By Eli Lake

The Washington Times

Elements of Pakistan's military and intelligence service assisted Osama bin Laden before he was killed during the recent U.S. raid on his
Abbottobad hideout, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said on Tuesday.

I believe that there are elements of both the military and intelligence service who in some way, both prior and maybe even current, provided some level of assistance to Osama bin Laden, said Rep. Mike Rogers, Michigan Republican and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, who recently returned from a visit to Pakistan.

Why are you sweating so much after Army? and who is Mike Rogers the creator of the universe? stop copying every tom dick and harry. We have heard enough of it already. The biggest problem for Zionist system is even if Pakistan army is worst kind of army it is not under the civilian control. Capatlist system needs slave armies like that of NATO and america that act without thinking. The armies that want to give their lifes to save the system rather than the institution. Pakistan army on the other hand is all about saving the sanctity of the instituion and then the country (apparently). Chances are even with all the corruption, since it is not under civilians control, one day Pakistan army may get a SarPhira that can take that organization out of their control and towards a path that is unacceptable for enemies of Islam. That is why inspite of all the submissive attitude of pakistan army it is still under attack. For some idiots every tom dick and harry is more authentic than the ground realities.

 

[smalltimepro]

Re: 'Sympathisers' within both Pak military, ISI aided Osama bin Laden: Mike Rogers

What a load of complete rubbish.
Stacking rubbish over rubbish doesn't make it a green hill.
Osama has been dead for while, he was not an Abbotabad at all. Keep in mind we are yet to see the tiniest shred of evidence to support that silly claim.
Now claiming that ISI helped him in Abbotabad, is only an attempt to hide/bury the original load of rubbish under more rubbish.

 

[WatanDost]

WHO THE F*CK IS Mike Roger?
Why should we LISTEN TO OLD AMERICAN BULLS*IT?

 

[sngilani]

Renaissance of the Indian Muslims, which culminated in their political awakening, resulted in the birth of Pakistan. From the day one Pakistan faced a constant threat to its very existence from India. India constantly tried to eliminate Pakistan. Natural reaction from Pakistan was to raise its guards and increase defence. 1971 war resulted Pakistan to peruse nuclear power just to survive in front of a mighty enemy. Issues like ‘Kashmir’ constantly kept ISI at high guards. Pakistan still is fighting battle of survival. If India let Pakistan survive then Pakistan may not need to keep huge army or nuclear bombs. Key is resolving Kashmir issue. This will only happen if US changes AFPAK policy to AFPIndi. Bringing India into ‘Triangle will address problem. Fighting in Afghanistan is like treating symptoms, actual disease is Kashmir.

 

[gazoomartian]

Any body can pick up his keyboard and dump some trash on Pakistan. Pak is an easy prey these days because our media and govt do not care what others say.

Now look at Mike Rogers. he is with yahoo news, Malaysia. He doesnt count at all. We shouldnt be offended.

Now I will know he is a real journalist if he writes about the murders,kidnapping,torture, in Ghaza, West Bank, Kashmir, Cuban prison. Does he have enough guts to write abut those?

of course, He doesnt want to loose his neck. He knows if he exposes Israel's nuke in Nagev dessert, he wont live too long