Mangla dam then y not kalabagh dam

[PAKISTAN12]

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[miafridi]

Not many countries have dams but they still have better electricity than the ones that have dams. The point i want to make is that dams or no dams, the government should make electricity, Be it from OIL, wind,Solar, coal etc. They want to hide themselves behind finding easier ways rather than choosing long term difficult but constructive ways to build the projects. We want them to work hard. Government jobs are not to sit idle and do nothing. Its about more responsibility. Make our economy strong enough to sustain even electricity through OIL.

 

[coolhaider]

Not many countries have dams but they still have better electricity than the ones that have dams. The point i want to make is that dams or no dams, the government should make electricity, Be it from OIL, wind,Solar, coal etc. They want to hide themselves behind finding easier ways rather than choosing long term difficult but constructive ways to build the projects. We want them to work hard. Government jobs are not to sit idle and do nothing. Its about more responsibility. Make our economy strong enough to sustain even electricity through OIL.

i know u are not in favor of kalabagh dam becoz u belongs to the same area where ppl oppose kalabagh
well dam have various benefits like producing electricity storing water and saves from flood
generating electricity from other sources also helps but some of them are quiet expensive like oil and so on
our public also want cheap electricity but they dont let gov do their work its too bad

 

[Queue Farms]

COAl , GAS, Oil is Pollutant and Solar, Wind we cant afford. Nuclear is restricted , Only Hydro is viable

 

[monh zorr]

کالا باغ ڈیم کے مخالفین پاکستان کے ، بھارت سے بھی بڑے دشمن ہیں۔ یہ وہ مفاد پرست ٹولہ ہے جو صرف اپنی قبضہ کردہ زمین کو بچانے کیلئے، پورے خیبرپختوانخواہ، کو تاریکی اور پسماندگی میں مبتلا رکھنا چاہتے ہیں،زراعت کیلئے پانی ذخیرہ نہیں کرنے دینا چاہتے،اور ملک کو قحط اوراندھیرے کی نظر کرکے ختم کردینا چاہتے ہیں
عمران خان، اگر کچھ نہ کرے، صرف کالا باغ ڈیم بنوادے تو اسکا نام تاریخ میں روشن رہے گا،اور صوبہ خیبرپختوانخوا بھی ایک بہت بڑا انڈسٹریل زون بن جائیگا،،،
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[miafridi]

generating electricity from other sources also helps but some of them are quiet expensive like oil and so on
our public also want cheap electricity but they dont let gov do their work its too bad

You didn't get my point bro, The government hides their incompetency behind cheap projects. Other countries are not using cheap electricity and are paying for it through their pocket because they are competent. They know how to earn. They have less corruption. They have merit. They have made their institutes strong. They don't eat publics money. They provide jobs(And collect taxes) which helps the government earn more. But what we have in paksitan here? Don't provide jobs, Don't end corruption, Don't make the institutions strong, Don't promote merit mindset, just provide cheap electricity(because if you don't provide jobs,don't end corruption,and with weak institutions you don't have money) and let the 5 years pass like this.

I am not in favor or against Kala Bagh dam, i am saying that government should be competent to provide even more ways along with the dams but not just beat the drums about the dams and ignore other things and then say oh see we wanted to build a dam but people didn't let us.If people are not letting you then consider as if you don't even have the kalabagh project in place. Think of something else, don't just stick onto one and only one thing.

 

[IhsanIlahi]

bhai ap ka kala bagh dam siasat ki nazr ho chuka hai...... na nawaz sharif ne isay banana hai,,, na imran ne .....

 

[moahhid]

Technically I don't understand a few questions. Can someone answer these plz

1.why so much emphasize on bigger dams instead of smaller ones although smaller dams are more safe, easy to build and maintain, and the electricity produced could be distributed locally without line loses.

2. why the electricity produced from Malakand, tarbila and other hydro Stations is transmitted to other remote areas of the country and in some cases electricity is produced in one part, transmitted to remote areas to a central distribution hub and distributed back to the areas where it was originaly produced (as in case of Tarnila). This not only increase cost but also increase line loses to more than 25% of the total production.

3. Why the government does't look alternative forms of energy and why they don't explore huge coal deposits buried in the soil of Pakistan. In Europe percentage of hydro electricity is next to nothing but still we don't see loadsheding here. Some say that other forms of energy are costly, i am wondering how other nation have overcome this problems. These nations have decorated their mountains with solar panel and seeded the see with 1000s of wind turbine. they formulate national planning stratigies for the whole nation not for a specific province, even if a huge project creates problem for a particular population they look for alternative solutions. The actual reason in this case in not the cost but the will.

I have seen in developed countries they build power generation centers locally and distribute electricity locally. This not only facilitates, efficiency, availability, maintenance and distribution but also reduces cost.

In my opinion the government of Pakistan should distribute electricity locally and those parts of the country where it is difficult to build dams other forms of power generation should be employed, such as thermal, nuclear, solar or wind.

I think either the engineers or the designers of the system and the leadership do not know anything in this matter or intentionally do not want to solve this problem and creates problems for the people of this country.

 

[moahhid]

کالا باغ ڈیم کے مخالفین پاکستان کے ، بھارت سے بھی بڑے دشمن ہیں۔ یہ وہ مفاد پرست ٹولہ ہے جو صرف اپنی قبضہ کردہ زمین کو بچانے کیلئے، پورے خیبرپختوانخواہ، کو تاریکی اور پسماندگی میں مبتلا رکھنا چاہتے ہیں،زراعت کیلئے پانی ذخیرہ نہیں کرنے دینا چاہتے،اور ملک کو قحط اوراندھیرے کی نظر کرکے ختم کردینا چاہتے ہیں
عمران خان، اگر کچھ نہ کرے، صرف کالا باغ ڈیم بنوادے تو اسکا نام تاریخ میں روشن رہے گا،اور صوبہ خیبرپختوانخوا بھی ایک بہت بڑا انڈسٹریل زون بن جائیگا،،،
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Yes, and Peshawar, Mardan, Nowshehra, this whole area till the mountains of Malakand will become a swamp. Water logging and salinity in this area has already reached to alarming point. I am not joking this was my research project for my M.Sc in Soil Science thesis. Ask your leaders in Islamabad to visit those parts of the country where 100s of dams could be made easily without destroying the local population, or explore billions of tons of coal and other minerals deposits. But they don't care they just want cheap electricity even if it is at the expense of the people of KPK. Read my post above and ask your leaders these questions.

 

[shafi3859]

run of the river projects are echo friendlily... in my village flow rate and pressure of water is enough to generate energy... in Batagram reigon, swat vally and besham valley u will find lots of make shift turbines generating energy...and also for thousand of years ppl are using water energy in our areas to grind the maize (grain mills)...

PC I of Baffa Dam in my town is already prepared by WAPDA, don't know y govt is not paying attention... and that river is just supplying water from Manda Gucha glaciar to tarbela dam at the point of Darband.... u can generate thousands of MW only on this small river... Indus , neelam , jehlam are too big to discuss....

 

[monh zorr]

Yes, and Peshawar, Mardan, Nowshehra, this whole area till the mountains of Malakand will become a swamp. Water logging and salinity in this area has already reached to alarming point. I am not joking this was my research project for my M.Sc in Soil Science thesis. Ask your leaders in Islamabad to visit those parts of the country where 100s of dams could be made easily without destroying the local population, or explore billions of tons of coal and other minerals deposits. But they don't care they just want cheap electricity even if it is at the expense of the people of KPK. Read my post above and ask your leaders these questions.

thank you very much for furnishing me some fact yoiu found for your MSc thesis,but gentlman, what you means this,,,ask your leader in Islamabad,whos my leader at Islamabad,? you may be right by your part, but all the expert reports are against what you said,,as I know only some part of mardan and nowshera might effect by this dam
and, and politcal Don, are against it due to diminishing their constituences,, and nothing. for kpk intrest in large what you do man,,?

 

[Gujjar1]

Kalabagh dam is need of the hour and should be built. we need cheap electricity, water plus crops. i think kalabagh dam should be built according to the proposals of those provinces who are against it.

 

[rainbow22]

Solving energy problem is not a big problem, but it can not be done by re-elected corrupt government. These Ludo players don't have any solution for our problems. Only the end of this British system can make Pakistan a better place. Kalabagh dam will definitely give us more energy and more jobs in that area where it will be built.

 

[affanpervez]

Kalabagh dam is a must for Pakistan, the only problem is wadairas. If NS is a leader than he should built Kalabagh Dam, as its the best time right now with PTI in KPK.