Lord Macaulay's address to British Parliament

[QaiserMirza]

Member of East India Co., Lord Macaluay's (1800-1859) Education system is still prevailing in Pakistan, as he said,
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"A new India was born in 1835. The very foundations of her ancient civilization began to rock and sway. Pillar after pillar in the edifice came crashing down." attempting to create 'intellectual slaves' for the British Empire.​

Whatever we say about this is true but fact is that we do nothing to change our lifestyle. We feel disrespect to use our national language, specially our mother language. But what we are good is addressing each other, and what we are lack is Patriotism.​

 

[staray khaatir]

I am a lot more comfortable with Urdu than English but unfortunately i dont know how to use a urdu typing software.
In the age of Macaulay Britian was colonizing and enslaving where ever they could reach,and the above speach shows they were masters of this evil pracitce.But blaming that long gone man for the failure of our education is the oldest joke i have been listening all my life.Education is not our priority at govt level and thats the reason why we spend billions of dollars on Nukes and missiles but refuse to do anything about education.

 

[onlykami]

Lord Macualay's Adress to British Parliment 2nd Feb, 1835

Attached is the scan from british council Library record for the address of Lord Macualay,

He is Roohani Father of a millions of Paki and Indian Graduates who respect this system heartly.

 

[umairel]

Re: Lord Macualay's Adress to British Parliment 2nd Feb, 1835

Attached is the scan from british council Library record for the address of Lord Macualay,

He is Roohani Father of a millions of Paki and Indian Graduates who respect this system heartly.

To compete with the modern world we have to restore our culture and values but unfortunately our thinktanks thinks otherwise.

 

[smalltimepro]

Re: Lord Macualay's Adress to British Parliment 2nd Feb, 1835

As much as I myself am not a fan of Lord Macualy, I hate to inform you that the above piece is a forgery. A fake that has been widely circulated over the internet. Here are some explations.

1. The above peice is not from any British coucil archive. As you can clearly see from the print, that this is a more modern production. There are other version of such scans, some even with a sansikrit translation. Unfortunately, none of them has a reference to an origininal source.
2. Macualay was in India from 1833 - 1838. In fact on the reported date he was precisely in India trying to convince colonial authorities that English should be the medium of education for state funded institutions. In 1835 a round trip from Britian to India took 5-6 months. He could not have possibly addressed the parliament on that date. Also there was no skype or video conferencing.
3. In fact the date (2 February 1835) is the date of his famous Minute, which was aimed at convincing the colonial authorities that English education was the ideal for India, and not an education in Indian languages as a group of Orientalists (including Prinsep) wanted. Here is the link to the original source http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00generallinks/macaulay/txt_minute_education_1835.html
4. The very text of the alleged quote could never have been written by Macaulay. “India’s spiritual and cultural heritage” is a phrase he would never have used: he denied the very existence — or at least value — of such a heritage, as his Minute makes clear again and again. He was a thorough white supremist. At one point he wrote "I have never found one among them who could deny that a single shelf of a good European library was worth the whole native literature of India and Arabia.(source mentioned below)". In all of his writings you will find him argueing that the state of education in India was appalling and the need to give them proper education in literature and science.
5. Compare this piece to some of his original writings, and if you know anything about english you would know that this peice is written in poorly articulated phrases, very unlike Lord Macualay from 1835.
6. Finally, the question of “ever conquering this country” had no meaning in 1835, when Britain was in nearly full control of the subcontinent.

Other Sources:
http://www.languageinindia.com/april2003/macaulay.html
http://www.bayyinat.org.uk/macaulay210405.htm

The truth is that Lord Macualay made a geniune effort to educate to widely illiterate India even by their own standards. The problem with him was that he was just to arrogant and obsessed with the supremacy of western culture, literate and science. He failed to acknowledge the wealth of literature present in persian and arabic. Nevertheless his job was to handle the 100,000 Rs. allocated for funding education in India and he had to make a decision on how to spend it.

He did not forbid people to learn other languages. If the people wanted, they could have continued to learn and expand their own language and knowledge base. Unfortunately you will find that there was not a single institute of acedemic repute that existed before Britian took over.

Over the hundereds of years of Hindu and Mughal rule, the rulers failed to invest in education and science, opting instead to keep their subjects illiterate. This continued to be the case in all princely states during British rule, who had full control over their areas and loads of money. Instead they opted to gratify their own selves with luxury and expensive cars (yes cars... fleets and fleets of custom built Rolls Royces).

 

[Afaq Chaudhry]

Lord Macaulay's address to the British Parliament on February 2, 1835 after visiting India.

قوموں کے عروج اور زوال میں تعلیم اور اپنی ثقافت کا کردار, قومیں اپنی شناخت کیسے کھوتی ہیں

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[miafridi]

Re: Lord Macaulay's address to the British Parliament on February 2, 1835 after visiting India.

i don't think such speeches are made publicly. You can regard it as a briefing in a meeting to his own people but can't categorize it as a public speech.

 

[Afaq Chaudhry]

Re: Lord Macaulay's address to the British Parliament on February 2, 1835 after visiting India.

i don't think such speeches are made publicly. You can regard it as a briefing in a meeting to his own people but can't categorize it as a public speech.

Its true but we should remember that they changed our education system and values we as a muslim nation lost every thing,so we follow the same system after 65 years of indipendence which was inforced by law in India and Pakistan and Bangladesh was the part of that India.............thats the difference between nations.