ISI's sudden turnaround: Says terror bigger threat than India

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WASHINGTON: With almost one-fifth of the country reeling from floods, Pakistan has said its homegrown terrorists have overtaken the Indian Army as the greatest threat to its national security, even as Islamabad battles overcome the worlds trust deficit to win desperately needed aid.

The sudden turnaround in downgrading the Indian ''threat,'' reportedly contained in a recent internal assessment of security by the countrys spy agency Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), comes only weeks after the countrys military supremo Pervez Ashfaq Kayani rebuffed Washingtons efforts to highlight the threat of home-grown terrorism while insisting India remained the principal enemy.

The ''recent'' undated assessment, leaked by a senior ISIofficial to the Wall Street Journal, allocates a ''two-thirds likelihood of a major threat to the state coming from militants rather than from India or elsewhere.'' Evidently, it is the first time since Independence that India isnt being viewed as the top threat.

The purported rethink, received leerily in Washington and New Delhi, comes amid catastrophic floods that has devastated Pakistan and generated talk about the countrys very survival. Some reports say nearly a quarter of the country an area the size of Great Britain is affected by floods, and there is fearful speculation that extremists will have a run of the place because of government apathy and inefficiency.

Pakistans civilian rulers have tried to highlight this aspect to drum up more aid from world community, but till last weekend its appeal was met with skepticism given Islamabads own dodgy use of militant groups to further its strategic depth, a concept which Kayani defended till recently. But that depth now appears to have been washed away; on Tuesday, Pakistan faced the mortifying spectacle of Afghanistan giving it $ 1 million in flood aid, even as it sat on India offer of $ 5 million in aid with more to follow.

The neighbourly concern from countries that Pakistan has tried to undermine for long is in sharp contrast to the indifference, based on suspicion about Islamabads bona fides, from most of the world community. As of last weekend, the Indian aid offer topped France ($ 1.5 million), Germany ( $ 2.4 million), Italy ( $ 1.8 million) , Netherlands ( $ 1.3 million). Sweden ($ 3 million), and a host of other wealthy countries.

International experts attribute the cautious and tentative response by the world community to the trust deficit as also donor fatigue -- arising from the Pakistani establishments deep and long ties to terrorism. "We note often an image deficit with regards to Pakistan among Western public opinion," Elizabeth Byrs, spokeswoman of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, bluntly stated over the weekend, even as she and other experts questioned the logic of punishing millions of flood victims for the policies of the country's militarized establishment.

Pakistan's image deficit became evident in the poor response to Secretary of State Hillary Clintons appeal for $ 10 individual donation through text messages for flood relief an effort that brought in only thousands of dollars in the first few hours compared to the millions which rolled in for the Haiti earthquake and tsunami relief funds.

Similarly, a German lawmaker who is trying to raise money for Pakistan complained to Der Spielgel that he had so far been met with two types of reactions: "Some fear their money will help extremists. Others say: If Pakistan would spend less money on its efforts to arm itself with nuclear weapons then it would have enough money to manage the catastrophe."

Pakistan appears to have gotten the message or at least is pretending that it did going by the disclosure of its new threat assessment that runs contrary to what its Armychief insisted only weeks ago that India remained a bigger threat than home-grown terrorists.



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alibhai

Councller (250+ posts)
India isn't much of a threat. All thanks to the scientists and engineers who have worked to provide us with a credible nuclear deterrent.
 

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Citizen
Terrorists greater threat than India: Pak; Oh, really! Are you serious? India

Washington, August 17: New Delhi is likely to be skeptical about an internal assessment done by Pakistans military spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence, which has found for the first time in 63 years, that it expects a majority of threats to come from homegrown militants rather than India, which was till now considered the greatest threat to Pakistans security.
The ISI says that homegrown Islamist militants have overtaken the Indian army as the greatest threat to Pakistan, a finding with potential ramifications for relations between the two rival nations and for the US-led war in Afghanistan.
Reviewing national security, the ISIs assessment gives a two-thirds likelihood of a major threat to the state coming from militants rather than from India or elsewhere, The Wall Street Journal reports.
India wants real action rather than an assessment of risk and New Delhi thinks Pakistan has not done enough to crack down on the perpetrators of the Mumbai attacks in 2008.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, during the Independence Day speech on Sunday, said more action on that front is a prerequisite to better relations with Pakistan.
Indian observers are also wary about whether the ISIs mainstream, which authored the security assessment, are able to control rogue elements former ISI and military officers that many in India and the US believe have maintained ties with militants, the WSJ reports. Its a good development, provided the bulk of the ISI, including retired officers, take a hint, said Naresh Chandra, chairman of the National Security Advisory Board.
 

number one

Citizen
India isn't much of a threat. All thanks to the scientists and engineers who have worked to provide us with a credible nuclear deterrent.

Look how much you people have damage the country, How low you people can go, Just to get aid, you people can change like chameleon.......The whole world can't trust u anymore......
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
If I can able to analyze all this then ISI is probably looking at INDIAN HAND in terrorism as it is well known that Indian Counselates in Afghanistan have always seen as training camp of terror in Pakistan...Also another thing is that most of the people which are involved in Afghanistan are NON MILITARY and are based on Bureaucracy while RAW is also CONTROLLED on non military bureaucracy of India....
 

mrcritic

Minister (2k+ posts)
Look how much you people have damage the country, How low you people can go, Just to get aid, you people can change like chameleon.......The whole world can't trust u anymore......

Abay oh Cow P** drinker, bakwas bund kur apni. Your statements are totally absurd.
 

staray khaatir

Minister (2k+ posts)
one thing is for sure ,no body knows whats going on in this country.Threat from india is not only a direct attack but also destablizing efforts through balauch militants and some paid agents in karachi.
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
Look how much you people have damage the country, How low you people can go, Just to get aid, you people can change like chameleon.......The whole world can't trust u anymore......
Their is a big difference between Changing Stances and Changing whole society...ISI might have changed their stance due to some priority but you Indians have changed your even values as just see your own movies of Bollywood I dont even see a glimpse of what Indian culture starting from Cloths to language what is Indian in all that???Even Indian have left their language and adopted English instead of Indian languages...What those things reflect about India???At least our Bad *** agency has change their stance not their values and their vision and mission.....
 

number one

Citizen
Abay oh Cow P** drinker, bakwas bund kur apni. Your statements are totally absurd.

Sharam karo Bhai, sharam karo, todi si sharam karo, Aisi nobat aahi hai ki, Garib se garib muluk afganistan se bhi paise lena padte hai, phir bhi demagh gutno mein rakha huwa hai, yeh saab nature ki maar hai bhai, apna attitude change karo, community mein reha kar chalo, allah bhi kair barsana band kar denge.....
 

kashah

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
zardari and forigen minister querashi have been already saying for long time that india is not athearet for pakistan, now our big time so called spy agency, ISI have the same opinion. now we know for sure who is the pakistans real enemy. lo and behold it is not BIG BAD INDAI ,TERRORIST ARE PAKISTANS BIGGEST ENEMIES now we do not need the big armed forces navy or air force ,donot need neuclear arms.lets get rid of all this expensive bull''''''' and spend the money on public welfair.dont need to kiss american or english ars holes our problem is solved , ISI says so who am i to disagree ?
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
Sharam karo Bhai, sharam karo, todi si sharam karo, Aisi nobat aahi hai ki, Garib se garib muluk afganistan se bhi paise lena padte hai, phir bhi demagh gutno mein rakha huwa hai, yeh saab nature ki maar hai bhai, apna attitude change karo, community mein reha kar chalo, allah bhi kair barsana band kar denge.....
Agar Afghanistan apnay Pashtun bhaiyun ki madad karna chata hai tu is mai app ko koi aitraaz hai kia???Aur app ko tu yaad hi hoga k Tsunami aur Gujrat k Earthquake mai Pakistan nay bhi madad ki thi India ki sari nafratoon ko bhoola k....
 

jimpack

Minister (2k+ posts)
Some of the Pakistani members in this forum have grown up with anti-India vitamins and proteins. So you can't change and there is no way these guys can think anything different even this hour of crisis in their Country.

No point in arguing or breaking your head with them. Leave them alone in their world of intelligence.
 

YAHYA87

Senator (1k+ posts)
Some of the Pakistani members in this forum have grown up with anti-India vitamins and proteins. So you can't change and there is no way these guys can think anything different even this hour of crisis in their Country.

No point in arguing or breaking your head with them. Leave them alone in their world of intelligence.
What would you like to comment after reading your fellow Indian member here???Do you think he deserve any friendly reply????Sir Taali 2 hathoon say bajti hai aik hath say nahi agar Pakistan k baray mai Indian ulta seedha bolaingay tu Pakistaniyun ko bhi Jawab dainay ka haq hai....Jahan tak baat rahi Anti India vitomine tu humaray under itna ziada nahi hai jitna ziada app logoon k under Pakistan say related hai best example Indian media stance in Shoaib Sania controversy.......
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
India isn't much of a threat. All thanks to the scientists and engineers who have worked to provide us with a credible nuclear deterrent.

In the world of politics these days, lots of information are released for consumption of certain govtor part of the country. The actual situation could be totally different.

Just like India announced yesterday that a truck loaded with explosives has disappeared (stolen). Now you know that a truck with load as important as explosive does not leave the depot without escorts of military police etc. That truck is heading towards Afghan/pak for terrorists activities and hopefully ISI is actively pursuing this matter.

Or if its really stolen then I pray that en route to Maoland
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
haha no choice my @.$.$. Filthy Propoganda machine that you are.

yaar put all Indians in your ignore list. they are here because their own forums dont want them. Also they are attention *****s

I got them all in iggy bin. AND I pour 3 bottles of CPC every morning LOL
 

Khurram.k

Senator (1k+ posts)
Look how much you people have damage the country, How low you people can go, Just to get aid, you people can change like chameleon.......The whole world can't trust u anymore......
I wish no harm to Indian people ...also we know "YOU PEOPLE" don't believe in any kinda spirit , if hit by this sorta disaster ...YOU PEOPLE will eat YOUR own people .... YOU PEOPLE should keep YOUR nose out of OUR people's business . YOU PEOPLE change daddies with changing era ...it was USSR then , it's USA today .... WE PEOPLE believe nothing is for good . I can tell YOU PEOPLE today ... the day China becomes the super power ( a true super power , not self claimed one like"you people") YOU PEOPLE will start licking the Chinese shoe soul . WE PEOPLE may have a few corrupt politician , YOU PEOPLE eat,drink,sleep,walk corruption. It's a news for MY PEOPLE when someone dies .... for YOU PEOPLE it doesn't even make a news when 37 people get killed in Asaam. YOU PEOPLE believe in slavery , YOU PEOPLE kill dozens of Kashmiris a day cuz they don't wanna be with you . YOU PEOPLE are the only self claimed biggest democracy when YOU PEOPLE are actually living in a secular system. YOU PEOPLE can't control a bast-ard like BAAL THAAKRAY on your own soil , who threatens to bomb stadiums and grounds if Pakistanis were to play in India, wo is the terrorist then?. Then YOU people talk about democracy ?
DON'T YOU DARE TALK TO OR ABOUT "MY PEOPLE " LIKE THAT .... if I could , I would eat your heart out. Go find a banana cart and sleep under it . talking about MY PEOPLE ?
 
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Khurram.k

Senator (1k+ posts)
yaar put all Indians in your ignore list. they are here because their own forums dont want them. Also they are attention *****s

I got them all in iggy bin. AND I pour 3 bottles of CPC every morning LOL

yea but gazoo , Admins should ban these hindus from here... is tarah tau inko pata chal jaye ga ke ham India fatah karnay walay hain . :-p