such bolo
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
تقیہ چھوڑ دیا ہے؟؟
کہیں یہ بھی تو تقیہ نہیں؟؟
Iranian Banned from WoW - America on new low
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تقیہ چھوڑ دیا ہے؟؟
کہیں یہ بھی تو تقیہ نہیں؟؟
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gotti
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So the premise is that the only motivation behind criticizing Iran is Saudi-philia?
G
gotti
Guest
oh bhai, hazaaron copy paste ker kay hawalay lay aye ga
pehlay kehta tha kay is ayat ka matlab hai aal-e-rasul (r.a.) aur ahl-e-bait (r.a.) per salaam bhejo
Surah Saffat Ayat 130
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aisay hazaaron hawalay hain sir jee kay paas
G
gotti
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So you're saying that we can't even talk about Iran, now?
Weren't you the same person who has no problem in criticizing Pakistan's internal problems?
Wonder why we can't do the same for Iran (hmm)
Yes Saudis are not munafaqs but they are not friends either, Before going on and ranting about Saudia and Iran, Look at your country and understand where all this Terrorism came from/ started. You may find that it was people who were supported by Saudia, who started this Shia killings, in Pakistan in early eighties and it started from there. And today every govt of Pakistan is unable to control it.
At least Iranians did not start this in your country, So you big Saudia supporters out there think about your own Pakistan before starting all this ****.
Sort out your own Pakistan before going to do wakalat for others.
They are simply using you to destroy your own Pakistan.
muntazir
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bhai aapko offer dia tha taqaia key barey main aap razi hi naheen to main kia kersakta hoon baat kuch aur hoti hai aapkig taqaia,mutaa,matam per ley aatey hoo baath ko topic main hi rehney do warna taqaia jinhoon ney kia woh apko bhi pata hai.
muntazir
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
oh bhai, hazaaron copy paste ker kay hawalay lay aye ga
pehlay kehta tha kay is ayat ka matlab hai aal-e-rasul (r.a.) aur ahl-e-bait (r.a.) per salaam bhejo
Surah Saffat Ayat 130
[TD="align: right"] سَلَامٌ عَلَىٰ إِلْ يَاسِينَ
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[TD]Peace be unto Elias!
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[TD]Peace and salutation to such as Elias!"
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aisay hazaaron hawalay hain sir jee kay paas;)
agar tasali naheen hoi too yeh loo magar behas mazeed naheen karoon gaa yeh kaafi hoo ga warna aapki marzi joo chahey aap chahoo tumara deen tumarey saath magar khamkhwah main hero mat banoo,
we find in tafsir kabir, imam razi
* سَلَـٰمٌ عَلَىٰ إِلْ يَاسِينَ ** قرأ نافع وابن عامر ويعقوب (آل ياسين) على إضافة لفظ آل إلى لفظ ياسين والباقون بكسر الألف وجزم اللام موصولة بياسين، أما القراءة الأولى ففيها وجوه الأول: وهو الأقرب أنا ذكرنا أنه إلياس بن ياسين فكان إلياس آل ياسين الثاني: (آل ياسين) آل محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم
http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?...1&LanguageId=1
he says that there are two opinions about aal-e-yasin; one is that it is refering to ilyas bin yasin; and then he says that the second opionion is that it is aal-e-mohammad
G
gotti
Guest
theek hai, laikin humaray mutabiq "Ya Sin" do aisay huroof hain jinka matlab koi nahi janta siwaye Allah kay...jaisay kay Alif Laam Meem hai...huroof e muqatta'at...
Laikin aap kehtay ho kay Surah Ya Sin main Ya Sin ka matlab Rasul Allah (s.a.w) hai...jo kay humara iman nahi...is tarah yeh daleel wahien zaya ho gayi
Acha, baaqi rahi baat hero ban nay ki to woh din to aapko yaad tha jis din saari hero giri nikal gayi thi jab maine poocha kay alaysalam kab tak lagain aur har "syed" per bhi aur Ismail bin jaffar rh per bhi? (tanay ka jawab diya hai)
Phir aapnay tarjuma bhi ghalat kiya...woh bhi yaad hoga...
Acha ab aa jaye tafsir e kabir imam fakhruddin razi pay jo kay irani thay laikin sunni (aaj kal zyada nahi hotay wahan sunni imam, haina?)
Ab yeh tafsir jo hai, dar asal aksariyat say mukhtalif hai aur baqi bhi log nahi maantay is baat ko...jaisa kay bataya gaya hai aapko...tafasir Allah ki wahi nahi hotien...
Kuch tafasir main Surah Yasin kay "mursaleen" ko St. Paul samjha gaya...jo kay ghalat bhi hai aur sirf aik "raye"
iss liye...aik "raye" laa ker us per iman nahi laya ja sakta ... aksariyat kay rawwaye per nazar dorayi jaati hai jo kehtay hain kay yeh Hz Ilyas (a.s.) hain...
ab aapki jo "sources" hain aur hawalay hain...unkay jawabat ki bhi fehrist maujud hai aur jawab dar jawab hai...
main aapko yaqeenan behes o mubahisay per majbur nahi kerunga laikin aap ko yaad dilana pasand kerunga kay aapki "sources" jaisay kay "http://www.omar-sonnat.com/" humaray paas bhi hain
aur iss tarah ki bay inteha sites aur "kitabain" mere paas aur deegar hazrat kay paas bhi maujud hain jo aapko, aapki hi kitabon say jawaab dayti hain...
hata kay aapkay ulema kay bhi fatwaat aur khutbaat bhi hain jo aapko kaafi kuch kernay ki hidayat daytay hain jo shayad aap aaj kal nahi ker rahay ...
un per "wahabbi" aur "taqiyya" kay bhi ilzaam aur fatwaat lag chukay hain...do teen naam to aapkay zehn main abhi say hi aa gaye hongay
behtar hoga kay hum "co exist" kerain warna phir behes bahut lambi bhi ho sakti hai :)
Shukriya Muntazir sahab
muntazir
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
yaar afsoos ki baat hai baat khud chertey hoo jab hawala deta hoon aapki kitaboo sai aap mantey naheen hoo aab naya fatwa lag gia key woh irani they to merey dost aapkey buhat sarey imam irani hi they zara check kerlem asoolan jab debate main mukhalif fareeq ki kitaboon ka hawala dia jaata hai too uss koo maan lia jaata hai sirf yeh dekha jata hai key ravi joo hain yaa chain joo hai woh sahi hai ya naheen aakhir main aaj tak aapney dalail koo mana hii naheen to behas fazool hai per in kitaboon ka kia karen gai yeh aap khud soochen aur haan mughey jawab deney ki bajaey apney aap sey jawab mangen gai too khud faisla hoo jaeey gaa.
G
gotti
Guest
bhai mere aapko saaray jawab day diye hain...ab ya to aap parh nahi rahay ya samajhnay say aari hain...
maine kaha
phir maine kaha
yahaan log say muraad deegar ulema hai aur yeh kyunkay "raye" hai..iss liye isko nahi mana jaa sakta.
Jis tarah aap velayet-e-faqih ko Allah ki wahi nahi maantay aur na hi Jawahar al Islam ko...isi tarah tafasir humaray liye woh rutba nahi rakhtien...
ab kyunkay aap maan nahi rahay mera jawab to ab main kya kerun? aapkay hawalay ko mustarad nahi kiya mere azeez...aapka yeh hawala "enough" nahi hai...aur agar baat itni hi wazay hai to aksariyat kyun nahi maantay?
acha ab say sawaal yeh hai kay kya azaan main "aliun wali ullah" parhna jaiz hai? humara to yeh hi maan na hai kay nahi, aap kya kehtay hain?
lagta hai kay ab aap bhi aanay walay hawalon ko "mustarad" kerna shuro ho jaingay
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muntazir
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
masalah yeh hai key aap ney bhai kabhi bhi koi daleel naheen mani last thread main sab khamoosh hoo gai kion key koi daleel baqi hii naheen thii sawaey aapkey asal main aap dost bhi ho lekan yaqeen manoon aap key paas koi daleel naheen sirf baal ki khaal utartey hoo, pechley thread main aapko bukhari key hawaley dey magar aapney un ko
tasleem kerney ki bajaey isسَلَامٌ عَلَىٰ إِلْ يَاسِينَ hawaley to pakarney ki koshish kii koshish kii main us waqt bhi jawab dey sakta thaa magar jab koi sahih bukhai koo bhi naah maney joo key QURAAN paak key baad sab sai sahih kitab hai aapki nazar main to phir faida naheen thha aaj aapney phir chera jawab foran dia aab aap kehtey hoo key woh irani they too imam bukhari konsi zubaan boltey they? Ali un wali ullah mustahib hai farz naheen agar aap naah parhen to koi gunah naheen parhen to mustahib hai.jab nabi paak pbuh ney ghadeer main ilaan kia too hum tab sai ALI UN WALI ULLAH parhtey hain aap mughey apna kalima quraan sai sabith ker key dikhaeen ya hadees sai joo main qabool karoon kuch hawal deta hoon iss yaqeen key saath key shaid aap ko mutamin kersakoon.
امام علی (ع) سے روایت ہے کہ بے شک نبی (ص) (مقام ) خُُم میں ایک درخت کے پاس آئے پھر آپ (ص) علی (ع) کا ہاتھ پکڑ کر باھرتشریف لے آئے ،فرمایا : کیا تم اس کی گواہی نہیں دیتے کہ اللہ تعالی ٰٰ تمھارا رب ہے ? لوگوں نے کہا: جی ہاں! گواہی دیتے ہیں .آپنے فرمایا : کیا تم اس کی گواہی نہیں دیتے کہ اللہ اور اس کو رسول تمھار ے نفسوں پر اولیت رکھتے ہیں اور تم اللہ اور اس کےرسول کو اپنے اولیاء سمجھتے ہو? تو لوگوں نے کہا: جی ہاں ! آپ (ص) نے فرمایا : پس جس کا اللہ اور اس کا رسول مولا ہیں تو یہ(علی بھی)
اس کے مولیٰٰ ہیں ،اور میں تمھارے درمیان وہ (چیز) چھوڑ کر جارہا ہوں ، اگر تم نے اسے پکڑا تو کبھی گمراہ نہیں ہوگے: اللہ تعالی ٰٰ کی کتاب ،جس کا ایک سرا اُُس کے ہاتھ میں ہے اور ایک سرا تمھارے ہاتھوں میں ہے ، اور (دوسرے) میرے اھل بیت (المطالب العالیہ ، ج 16،ص 142،حدیث:3943)(مشکل الاآثار، ج 5 ، ص 13،حدیث:1760) ابن حجر نے المطالب العالیہ میں حدیث غدیر کو نقل کرنے کے بعد کہا ہے کہ اس حدیث کی اسناد صحیح ہیں مشکل الاآثار کے محقق شعیب الارنوووط نے حاشیہ میں اس حدیث کی سند کو حسن قرار دیا ہے اھل حدیث کے عالم حافظ زبیر علی زئی نے اس حدیث کی سند کو حسن لذاتہ قرار دیا ہے (ماھنامہ الحدیث : شمارہ اپریل 2010)
aab main aapsey kuch sawal kerna chahta hoon zara un ka jawab dejiey gaa merey agley quote main.
aab main aapsey kuch sawal kerna chahta hoon zara un ka jawab dejiey gaa merey agley quote main.
muntazir
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
kuch sawal pesh ker raha hoon umeed hai key dil laga ker in ka jawab dhoonden gai aur mugh ko bhi mutamin karen gai.
I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT SUNNI ISLAM
CAN ANY BODY HELP ME BY ANSWERING THESE QUESTONS?
1.
It is an established fact that all things are recognised by their name, even Allah (swt) first taught names to the father of Mankind Adam
2.
If these titles cannot be located in the Qur'an could you produce this title from any hadith of the holy prophet (s)? Produce any such 'mutawatir' 'marfuu' or 'saheeh' narration from your books with a complete source (meaning the name of the book, version number, page number, edition etc) wherein the names Sunni, Ahl'ul Sunnah and Ahlul Sunnah wa al Jamaah have been mentioned by the holy prophet (saww) as a sect of Islam.
3.
If these are not to be found in the hadeeth, then at least come up with an exact date, month and year of hijrah from the history of Islam when these names were adopted as your identity.
4.
What were you famously known as before adopting these names?
5.
Why have you forsaken your previous title?
6.
According to your sect, an introduction of any new thing to Islam constitutes bid'a, therefore to effectuate such an introduction is also a bid'a, so who was the person responsible for introducing this bid'a?
7.
Could you provide decisive evidence with regards to the meanings of Sunni, Ahl Sunnah and Ahl'ul Sunnah wal Jamaah?
8.
Which one is the most ancient of the three titles?
9.
Which one of the three titles do you consider the best?
10.
Why are the remaining two of lesser merit? Which one of those two is the least and what is the reason behind it?
awan4ever
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
And you cant answer anyone criticizing Saudi Arabia without calling him a takfiri/shia etc.
G
gotti
Guest
masalah yeh hai key aap ney bhai kabhi bhi koi daleel naheen mani last thread main sab khamoosh hoo gai kion key koi daleel baqi hii naheen thii sawaey aapkey asal main aap dost bhi ho lekan yaqeen manoon aap key paas koi daleel naheen sirf baal ki khaal utartey hoo, pechley thread main aapko bukhari key hawaley dey magar aapney un ko
tasleem kerney ki bajaey is??????? ?????? ???? ???????? hawaley to pakarney ki koshish kii koshish kii main us waqt bhi jawab dey sakta thaa magar jab koi sahih bukhai koo bhi naah maney joo key QURAAN paak key baad sab sai sahih kitab hai aapki nazar main to phir faida naheen thha aaj aapney phir chera jawab foran dia aab aap kehtey hoo key woh irani they too imam bukhari konsi zubaan boltey they? Ali un wali ullah mustahib hai farz naheen agar aap naah parhen to koi gunah naheen parhen to mustahib hai.jab nabi paak pbuh ney ghadeer main ilaan kia too hum tab sai ALI UN WALI ULLAH parhtey hain aap mughey apna kalima quraan sai sabith ker key dikhaeen ya hadees sai joo main qabool karoon kuch hawal deta hoon iss yaqeen key saath key shaid aap ko mutamin kersakoon.
???? ??? (?) ?? ????? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??? (?) (???? ) ???? ??? ??? ???? ?? ??? ??? ??? ?? (?) ??? (?) ?? ???? ??? ?? ????????? ?? ??? ??????? : ??? ?? ?? ?? ????? ???? ???? ?? ???? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ? ????? ?? ???: ?? ???! ????? ???? ??? .???? ?????? : ??? ?? ?? ?? ????? ???? ???? ?? ???? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? ? ????? ?? ????? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???? ??? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ?? ????? ?? ???: ?? ??? ! ?? (?) ?? ?????? : ?? ?? ?? ???? ??? ?? ?? ???? ???? ??? ?? ??(??? ???) ?? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? (???) ???? ?? ????? ??? ? ??? ?? ?? ??? ???? ?? ???? ????? ???? ????: ???? ????? ?? ?? ???? ??? ?? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???? ??? ?? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ?? ? ??? (?????) ???? ??? ??? (??????? ??????? ? ? 16?? 142?????:3943)(???? ???????? ? 5 ? ? 13?????:1760) ??? ??? ?? ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?? ?? ???? ?? ????? ???? ??? ???? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ????????? ?? ????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ??? ?? ??? ???? ??? ?? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???? ???? ??? ??? ?? ?? ???? ?? ??? ?? ??? ????? ???? ??? ?? (??????? ?????? : ????? ????? 2010)
aab main aapsey kuch sawal kerna chahta hoon zara un ka jawab dejiey gaa merey agley quote main.
Yaar aap bhi mere bhai nahi to dost say kam nahi...
laikin aapki yeh baat zara samjh nahi aayi kay yeh yaani "Aliyun waliullah" mustahib hai...
Ayatollah Muhammad Hussain Najafi kay mutabiq to "haraam" hai
Agar aap mujhe pehlay bata dain kay kya aapkay mazhab main "halal" hai to phir zarur mujhe yaqeen dilaye ga kay yeh mere mazhab main bhi parhna achi baat hai
aur haan yaar yeh sahab Ayatollah al Uzma hain...in per fatwaat jaari kernay say pehlay apna darja soch lijiye ga in kay bar aks
p.s. bhai yaar aisa na kiya kerain...maine irani ki to baat hi nahi ki siwaye iskay kay wahan sunni imam bahut aala huwa kertay thay..ab to koi imam bhi nahi wahan..
unsay ikhtalaf deegar ulema ka aik nuqtay per hai woh bhi uss pesh kerda tafseer kay baaray main jo kay aik "raye" hai jaisa kay aap ko main ab teesri dafa bata raha hun laikin aap zid ker rahay hain...chalain aap mere bhai hain aapse kya naraz hona...
sirf socha kay aap apnay hain to thora shikwa ker liya jaye kay yaar aap mere jawaabat per bhi to dayhaan diya kerain...
agar salam bhejna bhi hai aal per to hudood kiya hain aur kaun "set" kerta hai? ab main her jaali asli "syed" ko to a.s. nahi keh sakta mere bhai
haan laikin Razi sahab kay saath humara koi ikhtalaf nahi deegar baaton per jaisa kay Surah Nur ki pehli gyara ayaat Hz Aisha r.a. ki hurmat kay difa kay liye hona...as haab (r.a.) wa azwaaj (r.a.) e rasul (s.a.w.) ki shaan waghera... aur baaqi islam kay bunyaadi nuqaat...
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gotti
Guest
yaar tu fair agaya ? kinay kaya tinu shia...?
main gaalian dayta hun Saudi ko...kisne ilzaam lagaya? yay lay...Malik abdullah kamina hai...chal main shia ho gaya?
oh bhai iran ko ya saudi ko gaalian daynay ka mazhab say kya taaluq? khamenei laanti...main wahabbi ho gaya?
tera screw loose to nahi ho gaya?
Jab Iran ko Irani khud gaalian daytay hain to phir tumhain kiya takleef hai agar hum dain? (remember tu kaun main khamkha)
shah say zyada shah kay wafadar kyun ban rahay ho ? aur yeh "shah" reza shah pehlavi nahi
yeh dekho pichlay mahinay...irani sarkon per aa ker ehtejaaj ker rahay hain food prices per...
jamhuriyet main chalta hai...ab tum wahan to jootay khatay ho europe main..yahaan aaker humain sikha rahay ho dunya kay nasheb-o-faraz
oye na ker yaar...keep it to yourself...don't try to intimidate and silence people or you will be silenced yourself...just like now:)
it's called "freedom of speech"...aapkay hi europe main ijaazat hai kay wahaan kay irani bolain iran ko...
baray maghribzada bantay ho, unko kya kahogay? saudi ko gaali nahi daytay? unko kya sikhao gay kay "maghribzada bano"..."mujhse seekho"..."modern bano"
tumhari sahi ki ____ kerdain gay woh...tumse pehlay say wahan reh rahay hain....tumhari tarah nayi nayi hava nahi lagi europe ki
jaahil ho yaar...na kiya kero tumhari baizti hoti hai
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gotti
Guest
kuch sawal pesh ker raha hoon umeed hai key dil laga ker in ka jawab dhoonden gai aur mugh ko bhi mutamin karen gai.
I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT SUNNI ISLAM
CAN ANY BODY HELP ME BY ANSWERING THESE QUESTONS?
1.
It is an established fact that all things are recognised by their name, even Allah (swt) first taught names to the father of Mankind Adam. Your sect also has names such as Sunni, Ahl' ul Sunnah or Ahl'ul Sunnah wa al Jamaah. Direct us towards any such verse of the Qur'an wherein any of these names have been indicated.
2.
If these titles cannot be located in the Qur'an could you produce this title from any hadith of the holy prophet (s)? Produce any such 'mutawatir' 'marfuu' or 'saheeh' narration from your books with a complete source (meaning the name of the book, version number, page number, edition etc) wherein the names Sunni, Ahl'ul Sunnah and Ahlul Sunnah wa al Jamaah have been mentioned by the holy prophet (saww) as a sect of Islam.
3.
If these are not to be found in the hadeeth, then at least come up with an exact date, month and year of hijrah from the history of Islam when these names were adopted as your identity.
4.
What were you famously known as before adopting these names?
5.
Why have you forsaken your previous title?
6.
According to your sect, an introduction of any new thing to Islam constitutes bid'a, therefore to effectuate such an introduction is also a bid'a, so who was the person responsible for introducing this bid'a?
7.
Could you provide decisive evidence with regards to the meanings of Sunni, Ahl Sunnah and Ahl'ul Sunnah wal Jamaah?
8.
Which one is the most ancient of the three titles?
9.
Which one of the three titles do you consider the best?
10.
Why are the remaining two of lesser merit? Which one of those two is the least and what is the reason behind it?
aapki copy-paste ki hui post ka copy-paste kiya hua jawab
jin sahab nay kahien aur "copy-paste" kiye thay..wahan 15 sawaal thay..shayad aap 5 kisi aur moqay per post kerna chah rahay hon...
yeh saron kay jawab abhi say hi lay lijiye
www.omeriqbal.com/a/76
awan4ever
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Oye aqal k anday tujhay lagta hay mein yahan pro-Iran batein kerta hoon aur Saudis kay khilaaf Iran kay haq mein bolta hoon?
You have joined this fourm a few months ago and you think you know me and my poin of view already?
here read this post in reply to this pro-Saudi guy:
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...-aug-in-Syria)&p=996492&viewfull=1#post996492
Fresh thread mein say hay, its still up there somewhere.
If you still have doubts that Im somehow an apologist for the so called Iranian Inquilab then you can do a search of my previous posts and see for yourself.
Tum jaisay jaahil Europe mein reh ker bhe kuwain kay daddoo rehtay hein!
Aur tu kia silence keray ga mujhay, you chose to make an opinion about me based on a one lined post!
Go and spend some more time around this place before you try to be the silencer!
Aik post perh ker hissaab laga lioa keh lo je ye pro-iran hay is leaye!!
muntazir
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Her mazhab main ulmae soo bhi hotey hain in ko sab sai pehli baat kis ney Ayot ullah ki degree dii? Doosri baat yeh hai key tamam shion ka sab sai barey markaz najaf, ya qum hain i was there in feb and march and in najaf aur jarbala Ali un wali ullah is in every azanso i regret this person wat u think sbout dr zakir nail he praise yazid? And all sunni either they believe in any four imam they dont praise yazid and dr zakir naik or imam kabah have diffrent idea so it means i will start to think that sunni believe in yazid? When imam kabah also praise yazid but i cannot othe sunni blame cus all four imam they believe that imam Hussein as was in haq so dont force me to follow this najafi, and aliasalam nit for all syed now i told you taqava is important but aliasalam only for Ali,Fatima,Hassan,Hussein and rest ofour imam till imam Mahdi other then that we can call rehmatullah aliah aur rizwan ullah aliah but only who were naik perhaizgar not for every one , you blame me copy paste question bro you are wrong i can write those question too but im also working herein my farm andmostly i used my ipad or some time my oc but these question are genuine but you dont answer me properly i need and request you to answer my one by one if you want me then i can quote these question by my hand writing then you need to give me ur adress;) i hope you will answer me, and in last i need to ask you one more thing only if you snswer my thise wuestion so lets started now and think about thise question shukria.
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gotti
Guest
When did I call u pro-Iran?
When did I say you are anti-Saudi?
Im sayin there is no relation to saudi in a thread regarding Iran and those that criticize Iran are not doing it due to their saudi sympathies or agenda as you have claimed, if that was true, everyone from Iran who are exiled from shah's time wouldn't be hating Iranian mullahs by calling them "Arabs".
What would you tell them? Attack Saudi and then attack Iran? They are attacking Iran for being arab to begin with!
Its like being forced to attack Pakistan if ure an Indian Muslim criticizing India to prove ur loyalties...or like when ure in Europe, they don't allow you to criticize the country you're in and say "if you don't like it, go back"
Phir idhar aa ker apni aag nikaltay ho kyunkay wahan bolo gay to vigilante skin heads jootay maraingay...
isi liye tumharay type kay log apni qaum say nafrat kernay lag jatay hain kyunkay you're embarrassed of who u are and u think kay yeh log theek hongay to mujhe gaalian nahi paraingi...
Baaqi communities araam say rehti hain, tumhain hi koi takleef hoti hai...UK main nahi hogay...wahan Pakistani apnay aapko manwa chuka hai...Greece, Spain, Italy aur France main bhi woh proudly rehnay lagay hain
Tu zarur Norway main rehta hoga..laikin wahan bhi Pakistani theek hain ..movies aur music main hissa laytay hain...yeh phir hi kabhi figure out keraingay kyunkay tu zarur dab kay rehta hai, jahan bhi rehta hai
Anyway
Ure diverting the legitimate criticism that Iran deserves by mentioning Saudi, which can't be possible without a pre existing bias, can it?
Unless you don't want Iran to be criticized, IMHO, you won't be doing this.
I don't hate Persians or Shia but believe in expressing my opinion and expressing a legitimate criticism of policies drafted by people from the same religion and ethnicity but that's it, nothing more to it than that.
So we can't even criticize them now without a testimony in your court?
Even in the link you posted, you were unable to attack Iran or Syria without attacking Saudi to confirm that your harassment has no basis other than ure own sectarian and closed minded biases.
And...the such bolo guy embarrassed you and you were wrong but you kept on going stubbornly...
Teray favor main keh raha hun...eho jayi gallaan na kiya ker...you look very stupid...just a friendly word of advice
Ghalat baat kerkay phir dhitayi main boltay na raha kero...The rest is up to u
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