INDIANS ON THIS FORUM AND THE REALITY Of INDIA

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Every time an Indian on this forum brings the stats from Pakistan when faced with the figures and facts from world organisations on the poverty levels in India or filth on its streets. Indian quickly drag Pakistan in to it, its poverty levels and even sanitation conditions in Pakistan.

I have been to many parts of Pakistan, but I have never seen kind of filth we see in videos in India. I confess I personally had never been to India, but my brothers and sister had been. They have told me first hand accounts of how dirty is India compared to Pakistan. First time one of my brother went to India, he came back and laughed at the faces of those who were trying to elevate India to the level of among the richest in the world. In India because of exploitation the figures are skewed to a very high degree. Few very rich billionaire, a middle class to speak of, but even then there are grades and degrees of economic powers. For example most middle classes in India cannot afford to buy a house in their own cities, which is not the case in Pakistan.

Anyway, the fact is no Pakistani deny that there is poverty in Pakistan and it is on the increase due to our incompetent and corrupt political leaders. We hate our politicians for valid reasons and to show our disgust we criticise them all the time on this forum. Indians witness that criticism first hand on this forum.

My attempt is not geared up towards closing the eyes from the problems faced by Pakistan. Far from it, we all wish Pakistan becomes prosper and poor people have better lives.

All I want to do is to draw the attention to the fact that there may be poor in both countries but the level of poverty is different in both countries. it is as stark as one can imagine.

Indians are very proud of Mumbai, which they think is heaven on Earth. When my brother visited the city he told me it is so dirty and filthy that he used to throw up on the street because of the stanch which is spread all over Mumbai.

Just two vivid examples from two biggest cities in both countries.


This video is from just one street of Mumbai, but we know that 3/4 of the city of Mumbai is filled with such dirty slums.

In comparison, due to some propaganda in the Indian media to portray Orangi the biggest slum area in Asia, the Indians think Orangi town is very poor and dirty.

Yeah true, it consist of poor of Karachi, and yes it could term as dirty in comparison to the First World. But for Indians to use it as an example. Come on give me a break.



It is obvious from this video, there is poverty and then there is inhuman conditions like we see in most Indian big cities. I am comparing the two for the sake, but story is no different in other cities.

If the deluded Indians think that Orangi is a slum at par with their cities slums then they need their heads examined. If we term Orangi as slum then the Indians have to accept that most of their cities are slums without exceptions.

Take an example of city of Chennai. Look at its normal streets, which are not classified as slums by the Indians.


Indians, we don't deny that there is poverty in Pakistan. We don't deny that poor are suffering. But there is a difference between us and India and the Indians. We accept our faults, while Indians are living in LA LA land.
 
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Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Bharatis know the reality of their country that is rape, insurgency and poverty at an unprecedented scale . They only come here trying to escape the facts hoping to find solace in Pakistanis! Everyone knows that Mumbai has the largest number of slums and prostitutes in one city anywhere! That is saying something when we keep places like sub-Saharan Africa in mind
 
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crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Once I put up a video of Defence Karachi to show to the Indians that Pakistan is not what they think or made to believe. I challenged them to bring one area, just one area from any of their big cities, which they think are the driving force in the world as the most rich and civilised cities, to compare with the houses and standard of living most middle and upper middle class people enjoy in Pakistan.

Off course no one could produce a video of sustained evidence of good living. Someone posted a video of some new apartment blocks. But we Pakistanis know in Pakistan people prefer to live in houses if they can afford it. But fact is in Indian big cities, the Indians could never find a substantial area of good quality houses to compare with Pakistan. We Pakistanis know that every Pakistani city have areas like this.

Here is an example for the Indians from Lahore, what best of the best Lahore had to offer. If the Indians look at this video it is a very large area, neat and clean, green, consisting beautiful big houses. I challenge them to show one, just one area as large as this from any city of India. Not few isolated houses, a sustain patch like shown in this video.

 

desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
All I want to do is to draw the attention to the fact that there may be poor in both countries but the level of poverty is different in both countries. it is as stark as one can imagine.
and what is your purpose of drawing attention and comparing with India?.......is it just so that even if there is stark poverty in pakistan, you feel on cloud nine by this comparision and get some good sleep at the end of the day? and mind you all such threads are started by pakistanis and Indians just respond.......
 

Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
انڈین جو پاکستان آتے ھیں وھ خود یھاں کے لوگوں کی بودوباش اور انکے گھر دیکھ حیران رھ جاتے ھیں۔ اور اسلام آباد یا لاھور کے پوش ایریاز کو دیکھ کر تو یورپ کا گمان کرتے ھیں۔اور اس بات کو کھنے میں کوی شرم محسوس نھیں کرتے کہ پاکستان کی عوام امیر ھے اور انڈین کی عوام غریب لیکن حکومت امیر۔
ھمارے گھر کام کرنے والی نوکرانی نے سیل فون رکھا ھوا ھے جبکہ انڈیا میں سفر کے دوران ھمارے رشتے دار نے ایک فقیر کو ایک روٹی پر کچھ سالن رکھ کر دینا چاھا تو اس نے روٹی نھیں پکڑی پھر ایک لوکل کے بتانے پر انھوں نے روٹی پلیٹ فارم پر رکھ دی تو اس نے اٹھا لی۔
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
and what is your purpose of drawing attention and comparing with India?.......is it just so that even if there is stark poverty in pakistan, you feel on cloud nine by this comparision and get some good sleep at the end of the day? and mind you all such threads are started by pakistanis and Indians just respond.......

You see that is my point exactly. You had been on this forum for how long????????????/ Where did you see us on cloud nine?????????//

Who calls themselves as super rich, most advanced and most civilised people on the face of the planet? Who considers Pakistan as backward and very poor country, where people are dying of hunger?

Who brings the figures for Pakistan whenever anything about India is discussed?

You the Indians. How many posts we provide as a proof that as soon as the figure of 900+ million Indians living in poverty is mentioned, straight away the Indians say, hay 40% Pakistanis live in poverty, or whatever figures they want to quote. So, I thought I just show and compare both levels of the poverty.

Why are you enraged from looking at the filth India is?
Don't you think my purpose is achieved when Indians like you try to defend your own failings by attacking Pakistan and Pakistanis.
Stupid Indians and Indian media think that Pakistan is poor and they are the richest country in the world.

You are among those stupid Indians, I just wanted to put the record straight.(bigsmile)(bigsmile)
 

GILL123

Councller (250+ posts)
just lived in Punjab for whole life before coming to Canada and jatts are doing great over there . One acre is worth 3 crores and most people have big cars , houses and wealth. Infrastructure is growing at rapid speed .

would like to see both india and pak in future.



You see that is my point exactly. You had been on this forum for how long????????????/ Where did you see us on cloud nine?????????//

Who calls themselves as super rich, most advanced and most civilised people on the face of the planet? Who considers Pakistan as backward and very poor country, where people are dying of hunger?

Who brings the figures for Pakistan whenever anything about India is discussed?

You the Indians. How many posts we provide as a proof that as soon as the figure of 900+ million Indians living in poverty is mentioned, straight away the Indians say, hay 40% Pakistanis live in poverty, or whatever figures they want to quote. So, I thought I just show and compare both levels of the poverty.

Why are you enraged from looking at the filth India is?
Don't you think my purpose is achieved when Indians like you try to defend your own failings by attacking Pakistan and Pakistanis.
Stupid Indians and Indian media think that Pakistan is poor and they are the richest country in the world.

You are among those stupid Indians, I just wanted to put the record straight.(bigsmile)(bigsmile)
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
[hilar][hilar][hilar] ...Good Job Crank for putting the slumdogs in there place. Reality is the gaurav gatha temple indoctrinated schooling system that produces 90 % somewhat legible idiots has brainwashed a lot of these indians of common sense. Hence in there case common sense IS NOT COMMON AT ALL [hilar][hilar]

Poverty is a very far stretch specially for their tanking economy supported by a life line from western powers, right now the biggest crisis is RAPE :)


Once I put up a video of Defence Karachi to show to the Indians that Pakistan is not what they think or made to believe. I challenged them to bring one area, just one area from any of their big cities, which they think are the driving force in the world as the most rich and civilised cities, to compare with the houses and standard of living most middle and upper middle class people enjoy in Pakistan.

Off course no one could produce a video of sustained evidence of good living. Someone posted a video of some new apartment blocks. But we Pakistanis know in Pakistan people prefer to live in houses if they can afford it. But fact is in Indian big cities, the Indians could never find a substantial area of good quality houses to compare with Pakistan. We Pakistanis know that every Pakistani city have areas like this.

Here is an example for the Indians from Lahore, what best of the best Lahore had to offer. If the Indians look at this video it is a very large area, neat and clean, green, consisting beautiful big houses. I challenge them to show one, just one area as large as this from any city of India. Not few isolated houses, a sustain patch like shown in this video.

 

GILL123

Councller (250+ posts)
best videos to post about india is by those tourists who visited whole india and gave fair review about india.










Once I put up a video of Defence Karachi to show to the Indians that Pakistan is not what they think or made to believe. I challenged them to bring one area, just one area from any of their big cities, which they think are the driving force in the world as the most rich and civilised cities, to compare with the houses and standard of living most middle and upper middle class people enjoy in Pakistan.

Off course no one could produce a video of sustained evidence of good living. Someone posted a video of some new apartment blocks. But we Pakistanis know in Pakistan people prefer to live in houses if they can afford it. But fact is in Indian big cities, the Indians could never find a substantial area of good quality houses to compare with Pakistan. We Pakistanis know that every Pakistani city have areas like this.

Here is an example for the Indians from Lahore, what best of the best Lahore had to offer. If the Indians look at this video it is a very large area, neat and clean, green, consisting beautiful big houses. I challenge them to show one, just one area as large as this from any city of India. Not few isolated houses, a sustain patch like shown in this video.

 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
best videos to post about india is by those tourists who visited whole india and gave fair review about india.










There is a big difference between going to some country as a tourist and going there to live, As a tourist even hell looks like an attractive place.
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We do not even want to compare with Indians, we just want to mind our own business. I dont know what interests Indians in Pakistan. India is ****ing filthy.
 

imran_hosein_fan

Minister (2k+ posts)
u people just fight and fight, instead of coming to a common platform u people always try to find differences, remember this region has the same blood.
now the paki say we converted to Islam and we r muslims, think again before u claim to be a muslim.
I have talked with an indian guy, a sikh, he told me that majority of the india dont know even know or care about pakistan, there is so much poverty that people has to think about earn bread first, its all in the media only and people watch soaps instead of watching news.
 

BHAAI

Senator (1k+ posts)
انڈیا والے تو تھوڑی سی شرم کر بھی لینگے مگر جو پاکستانی انڈیا کی وفاداری میں مرے جا رہے ہیں وہ کبھی شرمندہ نہیں ہونگے ، انکے لیے بھارت ہمیشہ مہان ہے
 

Ahud1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I doubt moderators of this forum have some strings through Indians as day before yesterday i exchanged words with one Indian and i think they are still available as refference and i remain very decent and in the end i got a Warning from moderators
i got very much disappointed and ask moderator to give a read of whole conversation
in the end my whole post which was against Holy India was deleted
 
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lurker

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You see that is my point exactly. You had been on this forum for how long????????????/ Where did you see us on cloud nine?????????//
Who calls themselves as super rich, most advanced and most civilised people on the face of the planet? Who considers Pakistan as backward and very poor country, where people are dying of hunger?

Who brings the figures for Pakistan whenever anything about India is discussed?

You the Indians.
Btw. I live in Model Town Lahore.

But you are wrong. Ever since I have been on this forums, its the Pakistanis who bring stats and figures from India. They start Anti Indian threads. It's a rare occurrence that I see Indians start such threads here. That 5 year old girl got raped, but so far I haven't seen Indians start threads and denounce Pakistani society like how the Pakistanis have been doing. They turned out to be better men than our own men.

And whats with all this, "I Challenge Everyone to a Pissing contest!" yada yada BS. Once again, I thought you were a mature columnist here, but you just displayed one of the most common juvenile displays of professionalism. Who would like to read columns from such a mind? lol.

If I could get a Dollar for Every Anti India thread, I'd be a Rich Pakistani by now. lol.
 
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Unicorn

Banned
We do not even want to compare with Indians, we just want to mind our own business. I dont know what interests Indians in Pakistan. India is ****ing filthy.

Indians are not running any thread here claiming that India is better than Pakistan. Its the Pakistani who do. Show me one thread by Indian here execpt our responses to your threads
 

Unicorn

Banned
I doubt moderators of this forum have some strings through Indians as day before yesterday i exchanged words with one Indian and i think they are still available as refference and i remain very decent and in the end i got a Warning from moderators
i got very much disappointed and ask moderator to give a read of whole conversation
in the end my whole post which was against Holy India was deleted

What are you whining about I responded to Modern Fakir's rape thread and I was thrown in Jail for 2 days:angry_smile: and you are whining about a warning
 

Unicorn

Banned
You see that is my point exactly. You had been on this forum for how long????????????/ Where did you see us on cloud nine?????????//

Who calls themselves as super rich, most advanced and most civilised people on the face of the planet? Who considers Pakistan as backward and very poor country, where people are dying of hunger?

Who brings the figures for Pakistan whenever anything about India is discussed?

You the Indians. How many posts we provide as a proof that as soon as the figure of 900+ million Indians living in poverty is mentioned, straight away the Indians say, hay 40% Pakistanis live in poverty, or whatever figures they want to quote. So, I thought I just show and compare both levels of the poverty.

Why are you enraged from looking at the filth India is?
Don't you think my purpose is achieved when Indians like you try to defend your own failings by attacking Pakistan and Pakistanis.
Stupid Indians and Indian media think that Pakistan is poor and they are the richest country in the world.

You are among those stupid Indians, I just wanted to put the record straight.(bigsmile)(bigsmile)


You are just getting too old. Show me any thread by Indians here calming to be better than Pakistan. Its you guys who do it and we only respond.

You still throw the figure of 90 percent Indian below PL but have not provided any comparable stat. I know that you have a " Crankstat list ' which is no good here.