Indian Weapons in Swat & FATA: The Truth

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
[The following is in response to the article by Ahmed "Crazy" Quraishi posted by lahori bhai]
Link to the post: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5368

1. In the article, AQ claims that the weapons is an Indian made Vickers-Bertheir machine gun.

2. I will first inform the readers about the machine guns in use with the Indian army (accompanied with pics), and then prove how AQ is a liar and how he twists facts.

Photo from AQ's article:
vickersindian.jpg


This, he claims is a Vicker-Berthier machine gun.

Machine guns used by the Indian Army:(Iam only giving reference to the ones which look similar to the above)
a)7.62mm FN MAG
b)7.62mm Bren L4
c)7.62mm IB
d)Vickers-Berthier (discontinued, now only in Reserves)

fnmag.jpg

FN MAG

lmgib.jpg

7.62mm IB

brenmkl4a3762mmlightmac.jpg

Bren L4

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Vicker-Bertheir (This is an early model, the cone shape barrel tip has been modified and is not present in late models)

As you can see, the guns used by Indian Army are different.
The gun shown in AQ's article really is:
pk11.jpg


This is the PK machine gun, designed and produced in Russia.

I request you all to be careful of people like AQ. He is in the same league as Zaid Hamid.
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
as u admit that vicker berthier is now in reserves,my dear innocent fool what do u think that is it safe to send weapons out of reserve or from present stock which is being used by Indian Army? secondly why Zaid Hamid is causing severe pains in ur stinking bums that u must refer him in most of ur mails? we know what is happening and who is doing it. u need not worry about it and start clarifying on behalf of ur govt. let ur govt do it.
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
rana14801,
The gun shown in AQ's article is the Russian made PK machine gun, NOT Vicker-Berthier.
Please read the post again.

Thankyou.
 

foqia khan

MPA (400+ posts)
@contra
if u think that this news is wrong ,then why cant u inform ur govt ,so that it can ask experts of other countries n clearify it to the americans n other world.what is the meaning of explaining here ,people here, r not expert to identify the guns ,may be they have made mistake in the name or model ,or may be wrong picture is placed but not in the fact that whatever kind of guns they have found r made of india , b-coz when we simple pple ask for proofs then how can american officals can believe without proper evidence so bring certification of any other country that the guns which r found ,whatever their name or models r not made by india .n not to this small site but on international media so that the news can have weight to believe.
other thing I have posted 1 video about Indian army chief , watch it n then explain that from which league he belongs. n then also advice to ur people n urself that u should all say" shame on all indians "for acusing others.
 
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I would like to say why dont u tell ur gov mind ur own bizness .........indeed u indian should proud to be mr zardari and rehman malik those who are not exposing RAW hands in all this mess......................any way pakistan waiting for a goood leader,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,whts the truth we know very well and brother we are not mis guided infect u r misguided why dont u aceept islam and make ur AKhrat goood....................why u worship all the shit things ? u create them and start worshiping how stupied indian are i can giv ya one very good example in south inidan worship one of film hero his name is rajni kanth idiots lolz because he always come in movies as strongest man on planet kind ov super man ...................
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
foqia bhai,
We don't use Tanks, Heavy Artillery, Helicopter Gunships and Ground Attack aircraft on our own people.
It is you who should be ashamed.
 

foqia khan

MPA (400+ posts)
@ contra
I think ur army is on picnic in kashmir .n why do u need that big thing for killing ur own people when ur caste system n the cruel nature itself r enough for killing dalits n minorities intentionaly.
n if u making point on my country that doesn't matter b-coz we all know with what intentions u r here .when u have no answer on the behalf of ur Army chief, ur this reaction was expected.but where have ur reasons n logics gone . u r here round the clock ,putting questions in front of simple people to divert their attention from the people u r afraid of n skipping the reality of ur officals.
 

abdulhaseeb23

MPA (400+ posts)
foqia said:
@ contra
I think ur army is on picnic in kashmir .n why do u need that big thing for killing ur own people when ur caste system n the cruel nature itself r enough for killing dalits n minorities intentionaly.
n if u making point on my country that doesn't matter b-coz we all know with what intentions u r here .when u have no answer on the behalf of ur Army chief, ur this reaction was expected.but where have ur reasons n logics gone . u r here round the clock ,putting questions in front of simple people to divert their attention from the people u r afraid of n skipping the reality of ur officals.

i has already inform in all the forum every where where contra has posted his comments and i am telling again and again that he is a paid worker from Indian establishment not only he but also lover boy and many other indian who daily join this forum and try to create propaganda against Pakistan. but we don't have to worry because we know and they also know this that the can't fight us the only thing which they can do is only propaganda not more and they are doing this from every way which they have for example, bollywood, media, lobbying and etc etc but we don't have to worry from them because we will give them answer like """" Aient ka jawab pathar sai""' so they are doing 100 sunar ki but we will give them answer Inshallah by aik lohar ki....
 

heyguy

Citizen
abdulhaseeb23 said:
foqia said:
@ contra
I think ur army is on picnic in kashmir .n why do u need that big thing for killing ur own people when ur caste system n the cruel nature itself r enough for killing dalits n minorities intentionaly.
n if u making point on my country that doesn't matter b-coz we all know with what intentions u r here .when u have no answer on the behalf of ur Army chief, ur this reaction was expected.but where have ur reasons n logics gone . u r here round the clock ,putting questions in front of simple people to divert their attention from the people u r afraid of n skipping the reality of ur officals.

i has already inform in all the forum every where where contra has posted his comments and i am telling again and again that he is a paid worker from Indian establishment not only he but also lover boy and many other indian who daily join this forum and try to create propaganda against Pakistan. but we don't have to worry because we know and they also know this that the can't fight us the only thing which they can do is only propaganda not more and they are doing this from every way which they have for example, bollywood, media, lobbying and etc etc but we don't have to worry from them because we will give them answer like """" Aient ka jawab pathar sai""' so they are doing 100 sunar ki but we will give them answer Inshallah by aik lohar ki....
I am totally agree with u that these people are trying to prove them innocent here.But as we all know that indian consulates across the pakistani border in afghanistan are not just issuing visas to a few afghans or providing consular services to their few thousand indian community which i dont believe is just ordinary public.So Contra dont argue your innocence here bcoz u also know that we are not fools to believe ur misperception.
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
@ contra

-We do not use weapons on our people but we would use it definitely and certainly on Indian backed agents and foreigners on whom we've been successfully using and will keep on using till we eradicate our land of these filthy rats ..kapish!!!
 

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