Indian drones are flying all over Pakistan and bombing our cities, towns and villages with such ease if they are given a license to go around the country. If PAF can shoot down five Rafales, the latest Dassault Aviation combat jets costing the Indians approximately $288 million each in a dog fight in the air, then why are the Indian drones not intercepted and shot down before they enter our airspace? Where is our air defence system?
Indian Drones are flying & bombing our cities as kites fly in Basant!
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Indian drones are flying all over Pakistan and bombing our cities, towns and villages with such ease if they are given a license to go around the country. If PAF can shoot down five Rafales, the latest Dassault Aviation combat jets costing the Indians approximately $288 million each in a dog fight in the air, then why are the Indian drones not intercepted and shot down before they enter our airspace? Where is our air defence system?
Indian PM Narendra Modi, the number one deadliest enemy of Pakistan and his fascist, hate-mongering and warmongering BJP government want to destroy and disintegrate Pakistan as did the former Indian PM Indira Gandhi succeed in breaking up Pakistan in December 1971, our Generals' surrender of East Pakistan. This conventional war must not escalate into a nuclear war, causing horrendous death and destruction to millions of innocent citizens of both countries.
It is the nuclear fallout that will engulf not only the sub-continent, but also many Asian countries that will suffer for decades from the radiation and generations will be born with incurable diseases, disabilities and genetic defects.
I hope that common sense and wisdom prevail on both sides and full-scale war, conventional and nuclear, is averted.
Indian PM Narendra Modi, the number one deadliest enemy of Pakistan and his fascist, hate-mongering and warmongering BJP government want to destroy and disintegrate Pakistan as did the former Indian PM Indira Gandhi succeed in breaking up Pakistan in December 1971, our Generals' surrender of East Pakistan. This conventional war must not escalate into a nuclear war, causing horrendous death and destruction to millions of innocent citizens of both countries.
It is the nuclear fallout that will engulf not only the sub-continent, but also many Asian countries that will suffer for decades from the radiation and generations will be born with incurable diseases, disabilities and genetic defects.
I hope that common sense and wisdom prevail on both sides and full-scale war, conventional and nuclear, is averted.
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#indiaattackspakistan | Rabia Akhtar, Ph.D. | 11 comments
#IndiaattacksPakistan Folks! India’s drone attacks are revealing more about its anxieties than its capabilities. India is exposing its vulnerabilities. By launching drone attacks deep into Pakistani cities, India isn’t signaling strength, it’s signaling panic. It is resorting to provocation, not...
#IndiaattacksPakistan Folks! India’s drone attacks are revealing more about its anxieties than its capabilities. India is exposing its vulnerabilities. By launching drone attacks deep into Pakistani cities, India isn’t signaling strength, it’s signaling panic. It is resorting to provocation, not precision. What it fears most is not Pakistan’s restraint, but the magnitude and timing of Pakistan’s response. After launching 24 missiles in a reckless escalation, India has now turned to kamikaze loitering munitions, autonomous drones programmed to seek out targets like radars and key infrastructure using radiation-homing technology. These drones, likely similar to Israeli-origin Harops, are small, low-signature, and hard to detect on conventional radar. That’s why they are difficult but not impossible to intercept. These are not conventional aircraft. As you are witnessing, they are designed to bypass traditional air defenses by flying low and fast, striking without warning. And yet, despite their stealth, Pakistan has already shot down dozens over cities like Lahore, Karachi, Pindi, using a combination of localized firepower and rapid-response units. This is not just our military response, it is a statement of resilience. India’s intent is clear. It wants to provoke, to induce panic, and to force Pakistan into a premature move. But strategic patience is not weakness, it is discipline in the face of deliberate provocation. Let there be no doubt: Pakistan has both the capability and the right to respond. But the response must come on our terms, not on India's timeline. To all my fellow Pakistanis: stay calm, stay alert. We are not in disarray! We are in deliberation. And when Pakistan chooses to respond, it will do so with precision, not impulse. That is the essence of true strength. Pakistan Hameesha Zindabad
Indian Drone attacks are revealing Pakistan's ineptness, incompetence and sluggishness of our armed forces to defend our motherland in the skies and on the land. What if the Indians change their war strategy and start firing low-flying rockets undetectable by our radars, and succeed in causing massive damage to human life and property?
Pakistan cannot defend itself with conventional warfare alone, it can strike India with greater force and destruction if it uses its long-range nuclear ballistic missiles, reaching the furthest regions of Indian military and logistic targets. So, our ineptness and sluggishness are not a good defence against our weakness.
Pakistan cannot defend itself with conventional warfare alone, it can strike India with greater force and destruction if it uses its long-range nuclear ballistic missiles, reaching the furthest regions of Indian military and logistic targets. So, our ineptness and sluggishness are not a good defence against our weakness.
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Trying to comprehend GOP's current approach to drones (from their online explanations through multiple direct/indirect handles), and I'm sorry to say that it seems flawed at multiple levels. I don't wish to be too blunt but it's disingenuous to call it as "strategic patience"! I'm in agreement with OP. This element of surprise has given India considerable tactical and strategic advantages, at this stage. Indeed, as the French PM Clemenceau had said, war is too serious a business to be left to the Generals.
India bought them in ~2007 (unconfirmed, but in mid-to-late 1990s, India had probably already purchased its prototype, Harpy-2), had them inducted ~2009, and has continued to build on their integration. These aren't that cheap either as CM Punjab's public advisory & some handles claimed yesterday. And what have we done over the years? (could've just asked some Az friend). Still, I wouldn't dissect, and urge others too to not open a public debate/inquiry into this in the midst of conflict, God-willing, time will come!
Nonetheless, whoever is responsible, MUST fix the present countermeasures soon.
Note that shooting down a kamikaze drone at the completion of its mission, when at the end of its endurance (Harop ~9hr, Mini-Harop ~1hr) it's going to commit suicide anyways, and claiming that we successfully tracked it on the radar & have finally hit it.... OR letting it loiter around for the duration of its endurance is... less said the better!!
Let's not forget, they aren't just after air defense systems, they aren't just sniffers, they're excellent day/night reconnaissance machines over land & sea both (no idea what they've already quietly mapped out over the sea). Now, it's not just reasonable to assume but highly plausible that, in the regions where these drones have been located, all our high-value targets, not just air defense systems but command posts, supply depots, tanks, etc etc have been likely successfully mapped out?!
There is an urgent need to abandon this "do nothing, sit and watch" approach, and take control. The window for effective counter-measures (not just to drones) is closing progressively. In short, notwithstanding other available means and tools, whoever is responsible, should seek to take them down at the first identification (current approach is too little, too late) via, for example:
(1) High-Energy Laser (most effective, efficient; get one if don't have) or EMP
(2) Jamming (even though Harop is generally immune to jamming, but it should be possible with alternative means, tools and systems)
(3) Engage with own defensive drones
etc. Thank you.
India bought them in ~2007 (unconfirmed, but in mid-to-late 1990s, India had probably already purchased its prototype, Harpy-2), had them inducted ~2009, and has continued to build on their integration. These aren't that cheap either as CM Punjab's public advisory & some handles claimed yesterday. And what have we done over the years? (could've just asked some Az friend). Still, I wouldn't dissect, and urge others too to not open a public debate/inquiry into this in the midst of conflict, God-willing, time will come!
Nonetheless, whoever is responsible, MUST fix the present countermeasures soon.
Note that shooting down a kamikaze drone at the completion of its mission, when at the end of its endurance (Harop ~9hr, Mini-Harop ~1hr) it's going to commit suicide anyways, and claiming that we successfully tracked it on the radar & have finally hit it.... OR letting it loiter around for the duration of its endurance is... less said the better!!
Let's not forget, they aren't just after air defense systems, they aren't just sniffers, they're excellent day/night reconnaissance machines over land & sea both (no idea what they've already quietly mapped out over the sea). Now, it's not just reasonable to assume but highly plausible that, in the regions where these drones have been located, all our high-value targets, not just air defense systems but command posts, supply depots, tanks, etc etc have been likely successfully mapped out?!
There is an urgent need to abandon this "do nothing, sit and watch" approach, and take control. The window for effective counter-measures (not just to drones) is closing progressively. In short, notwithstanding other available means and tools, whoever is responsible, should seek to take them down at the first identification (current approach is too little, too late) via, for example:
(1) High-Energy Laser (most effective, efficient; get one if don't have) or EMP
(2) Jamming (even though Harop is generally immune to jamming, but it should be possible with alternative means, tools and systems)
(3) Engage with own defensive drones
etc. Thank you.
