India Lifts Veil on Army as Modi Moves to Spend $150 Billion

Shamain

Senator (1k+ posts)
India Lifts Veil on Army as Modi Moves to Spend $150 Billion

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For private-sector executives in India who normally get only snippets of information to design components of complex military hardware, climbing into tanks and talking to combat soldiers is an eye-opener.Earlier this month, more than 200 representatives of defense companies -- big and small, local and foreign -- got unprecedented access to Indias secretive military. At two events in the western city of Ahmednagar, they crawled inside tanks, learned about the armys equipment needs and spoke with troops on the front lines in Kashmir, a region also claimed by main rival Pakistan.

You could feel how the soldier would adjust themselves in a tight space, said Rajesh Khurana, an associate vice-president at Bharat Forge Ltd., a major Indian manufacturing defense firm, who noted that he personally climbed inside of a tank. "It was a pretty intimate affair."

The new-found transparency is part of Modis efforts to transform the worlds biggest arms importer into a defense manufacturing powerhouse as he spends $150 billion over the next decade to modernize the armed forces. Closer collaboration with the military would increase the technological capacity of local companies and create jobs as more than 10 million Indians join the work force each year.

Opening Up

Weve seen the army open up under this current leadership," said Jayant D. Patil, a senior vice-president with Larsen & Toubro Ltd., which makes parts for everything from missiles to submarines. The army is trying to build a relationship with the private sector. Theyre communicating what their real needs are and want us to know what kind of problems they see in their day to day life -- and then industry can build solutions."

For the past few decades, publicly owned defense companies have repeatedly failed to do just that.
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Almost two-thirds of the armys contracts for critical weapons and equipment concluded from 2007 to 2012 -- worth nearly $4.5 billion -- were delayed, Indias national auditor said in a report this week. The foot-dragging was so severe that it hampered" the militarys modernization plan and impacted defense preparedness, the report said, blaming the delays in part on a heavy dependence" on imported weapons.

Arms Imports
Nitin Wakankar, a defense ministry spokesman, had no comment on the auditors report. In response to questions, the army said the Ahmednagar events stemmed from Modis campaign for companies to Make in India." The policy aimed to harness the preparedness of the Indian private industry towards meeting the felt-needs of the armed forces" and reduce dependence on foreign vendors," it said.

The governments move to open itself up to private industry marks a very, very significant departure from the norm, said Anit Mukherjee, an assistant professor at Singapores S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies. It will be a significant step toward fulfilling Make in India.

India relies on imports for 60 percent of its defense requirements, much of which has come from Russia due to a previous Cold War alliance between Delhi and the Soviet Union. Of late, it has bought more weapons from the U.S., becoming one of the top markets for American defense companies.

The Ahmednagar events featured executives from Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd., Tata Group, Larsen & Toubro and Bharat Forge. Participation among foreign defense companies was limited to those with India offices, including Honeywell International Inc. and Dassault Aviation SA.

Blind Guess

All attendees had to be Indian nationals, vetted and approved by the army. The invitations to small-and-medium-sized defense firms were a first in a sector that prizes scale and a country that tends to favor conglomerates.

Subimal Bhattacharjee, a security expert and former India country head for U.S.-based defense firm General Dynamics Corp., said the military went beyond merely talking about its equipment: Army officials, who wanted a new engine design, actually gave six Russian-made infantry combat vehicles to private companies.

It definitely helps people to utilize their resources better, said Bhattacharjee, who attended the event. You dont have to make a blind guess. You have a vehicle to yourself that you can play around with and understand better."

Defense Failures

Indias defense companies have a long track record of failing to deliver. A 40-year effort by the government to develop a battlefield tank has yet to produce anything the army can use. Similarly, a project to produce an anti-tank guided missile has seen repeated setbacks, forcing India to acquire them from Russia, France and Israel.

The army had previously refused to discuss procurement projects unless they received a formal request, Deepak Sinha, a retired army veteran who oversaw procurement for the Indian Special Forces, said in an e-mail. And even then the military never told defense contractors about procurement philosophy or future plans," he said.

The army has always preferred to keep interaction with business houses to the minimum," said Sinha, who served in the military for more than three decades. This interaction with business executives would certainly be a first, and a very good omen at that."

(A previous version of this story corrected the number of companies that received military vehicles in the 13th paragraph.)

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MunchyMike

Minister (2k+ posts)
India can afford to spend billions on their Armed Forces because there
economy is growing. Unlike Pakistan our debts and corruption is growing,
this is going to cost Pakistan big time in the next war against India.
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
India can afford to spend billions on their Armed Forces because there
economy is growing. Unlike Pakistan our debts and corruption is growing,
this is going to cost Pakistan big time in the next war against India.


you are not an army man so i do understand the tone of your comment. FYI let them spend trillions more no danger to pakistan. Why? One push of a button is more than enough. Thx
 

Shamain

Senator (1k+ posts)



you are not an army man so i do understand the tone of your comment. FYI let them spend trillions more no danger to pakistan. Why? One push of a button is more than enough. Thx
Its not always abt one push of button by which umean nuclear bomb firing. Building conventional military is importamt for pakistan too.
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Its not always abt one push of button by which umean nuclear bomb firing. Building conventional military is importamt for pakistan too.


Agree but not enough money 8 years sae lootum laat. We can never match indias spending. Remember they have china to deal with too and hunger poverty etc. 70 years pak army in defensive mode are best in the world beside israel. Push of button never recomended last resort to save Pakistan and chances are it will never come to that for now.
 

Aliimran1

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
No worries
They can have all the money spent on defense ----- but all the unrest and indendence movements going on within India ---- this is just waste of money spend on conventional arms when all three China India Pakistan neighboring countries are nuclear
They perhaps to use this all on their own people to contain
:P(bigsmile)
 

360turn

Minister (2k+ posts)
They will not only waste ..any attempts across da border will be fruitless ha ha ! pokhi publication in website power of guru manata! bull S*** !
 

360turn

Minister (2k+ posts)
I have to see in next 24 hours military equipment movements or ELSE THIS IS ANOTHER FAMOUS GURU PROPUGHANDAA FROM AFRICE TO MUMBAI ON DA INTERENT ONLY ! haha
 

360turn

Minister (2k+ posts)
My POT* is worth more than a website post made on behalf of a traitor nation as another FALSIFIED REPORT - hey you haven't even got the Rafeals wtf ? This is lie or in English FABRICATIONNNNN ! Wtf ? QADAYANI did this look at ablsy post or # of them ha ha he doens't even have a country - what abt the soccer match you & me mootu?
 

360turn

Minister (2k+ posts)
Modi doesn't have $$$ for existing French RAFEALS and making media advertising that scare and tactics to buy more ..somebody tell me where gets this money .. when the shipment goes out to Endia ..its like never .. I got to see it to believe it from all these liars????
 

Shamain

Senator (1k+ posts)
Agree but not enough money 8 years sae lootum laat. We can never match indias spending. Remember they have china to deal with too and hunger poverty etc. 70 years pak army in defensive mode are best in the world beside israel. Push of button never recomended last resort to save Pakistan and chances are it will never come to that for now.
We dont have to match with indian defence budget. Just look at their countrys size , their country is quite huge than ours so naturally we dont need to have defence budget as high as india. But that shudnt stop us form modernizing our armed forces and also acquire more conventional weaponery. -

well india claims she is procuring for china but do u think india cud ever counter china even in next 100 years? No india cant compate wid Chinese military. Currently indiam defence purchases are pakistan centric and indian ocean region centric.

And for some reason india believes that when she will attack pakistan, Pakistan will neevr use nuclear weapons. And even if pakistan will use it wont destroy entire india. I mean thats height of stupidity.

nonetheless pakistan shud work on improving her defences and builld up on conventioanl front so that we can tackle with any form of threat from india plus our na y is badly in need of improvement,
 
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360turn

Minister (2k+ posts)
A very well Analysis of our country's military expenditure but apparently we have enough weapons to take the whole country India OUT conventional or unconventional, as it is but from trial and error what we have learned with" India" they never followed protocol, they will cheat, lies, falsified they would fabricate in war if the line of embarkation is on the 45th and 54th parallel they will say it's on now it's on the 46th and the 52nd parallel just to gain an advantage! Also they will use their Media power to force acceptance or just for that purpose!
They are unable to shed light on black or white, it's only their way, the **** pokhi power of Endia.
 

remykhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Indian are planning from long time for self sufficiency and will continue to do so. Look at your leaders in Pakistan, most corrupt taking public wealth out of the country and investing in other countries, leaving country on borrowings. It is simply a criminal act, you cannot find any worst traitor than present government.
 

360turn

Minister (2k+ posts)
Indian are planning from long time for self sufficiency and will continue to do so. Look at your leaders in Pakistan, most corrupt taking public wealth out of the country and investing in other countries, leaving country on borrowings. It is simply a criminal act, you cannot find any worst traitor than present government.
Okay agreed. But you lot aren't helping us by buying more weapons or making plans etc etc, we are still in cut throat divisional problem of 2 country or 2 nation theory to this date?
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
We dont have to match with indian defence budget. Just look at their countrys size , their country is quite huge than ours so naturally we dont need to have defence budget as high as india. But that shudnt stop us form modernizing our armed forces and also acquire more conventional weaponery. -

well india claims she is procuring for china but do u think india cud ever counter china even in next 100 years? No india cant compate wid Chinese military. Currently indiam defence purchases are pakistan centric and indian ocean region centric.

And for some reason india believes that when she will attack pakistan, Pakistan will neevr use nuclear weapons. And even if pakistan will use it wont destroy entire india. I mean thats height of stupidity.

nonetheless pakistan shud work on improving her defences and builld up on conventioanl front so that we can tackle with any form of threat from india plus our na y is badly in need of improvement,


I think you did not read my comment slowly. I agree. Money???
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
My POT* is worth more than a website post made on behalf of a traitor nation as another FALSIFIED REPORT - hey you haven't even got the Rafeals wtf ? This is lie or in English FABRICATIONNNNN ! Wtf ? QADAYANI did this look at ablsy post or # of them ha ha he doens't even have a country - what abt the soccer match you & me mootu?


Qadyani??? No country??? Remember brother besides muslims you and me pakistani too. Please do not disappoint me. Thx
 

intekhab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)



you are not an army man so i do understand the tone of your comment. FYI let them spend trillions more no danger to pakistan. Why? One push of a button is more than enough. Thx
ابھے تجے یہ بٹن کس نے دیا.....حرام خورا
 

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