only_truths
Minister (2k+ posts)
It is nice to see the one year old thread revived again. Happy New year :lol:
I N D I A - Bankrupt soon?? Standard & Poor's warns India - investment-grade rating lowered to junk
- Thread starter PkRevolution
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so its been 2 years you r hoping for India and USA bankruptcy with no luck . keep dreaming...............
India and US going bankrupt is the wet dream of modernfakir, PKrevolution, ImranPak and lots of others on this forum. Alas it will never come true. These morons seem to be more worried about India when Pakistan is going to the dogs from hell (i quote lal topi). Stop worrying about India and ask Noora, General Zanani, and Taliban Khan to do something about your miserable country for a change!![hilar]
Exactly. When I call this out, the Pakistanis throw a sissy fit. I see it as plain old stupidity.
PkRevolution
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Glass today offers different qualities. Some glasses are harder than a rock stone.
Only a Pakistani could answer like that to the old Throwing rocks and living in Glass houses analogy. hahah. Not your fault.
PkRevolution
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mr. Japani, reply to the quote.
Sorry. I dont buy nor sell horse excrement.
a blind nationalist/federalist/...ist/...ist ... etc etc.
LoL. Yeah. It's a shame. But it's not their fault. It's just the way they have been raised, the society and the community they've been in contact with. It's not an incurable problem though, but one needs to invest a lot of time in other countries to learn what Humanity as a whole is all about. It's all about freeing one's mind.
hasan khan bachgoti
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
aapki tarah hi lal topi wala bhi aksar kisi seesa pilaaee hui deewar wali qaum ka zikra karta hai . ab pata chala ki aap hi woh azimushshaan hasti hai?(bigsmile)
Pakistan ko "Paak" karne ki jo 80s national policy implement ki thi, ye ussi ka nateeja hai. But if you think about the whole reason for the creation of Pakistan.. a place where purified muslims reside, then from this point of view, isnt this the logical conclusion?
modern.fakir
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The logical conclusion is that we now Have a Pakistan for Muslims world over to Live in and particularly the Muslims of South Asia (bigsmile) . Deal with it !
No. I don't think Pakistan's inception was about purified muslim residence area. Admittedly the issue is a convoluted one. However the hope comes from Jinnah's constituent assembly speech. I have spoken to many academics at length as to why Jinnah provided at the end a secular manifesto when all the other time he's been using the word "Islam" all over the place? Most of these academics have tended to give the opinion that the reason is also given in Jinnah's constituent address. The need to end communal and sectarian violence. It is the realization that with Islam at the helm of Pakistan, there will be sectarian and communal issues among the minorities and within the majority. This is why I say that it is one thing to find a state and it is another thing to actually run it. One also needs to realize that prominent muslim leaders at the time of partition were against the creation of Pakistan. It is only later on in the vacuum of Pakistan did the Mullahs realized what is up for grabs.
In my opinion it is irrelevant whatever Jinnah or Iqbal or whoever founded Pakistan in the name of. What matters is the best course of action today. We need an END to Islam's monopoly in Pakistani politics. Why do you think the Taliban fight? They hope to bring Islamic governance to an Already Islamic Republic. They just want More Islam in governance. Why do you think sectarian violence happens in Pakistan? It is all about politics. Islam has been used in Pakistan not only to create it, but to also destroy it. The sooner we the people realize that Pakistanis are just not cut out to be governed by a religion, the sooner the bloodshed will reduce. The problem is the hopelessness and poverty of every Pakistani in Pakistan. Poverty and hopelessness turn people towards Gods and Messiahs. Prosperous nations are not religious nations for a reason.
PkRevolution
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What rubbish are you talking here? Which Society and which community?? Humanity in other countries???? You are very confused.
PkRevolution
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You mean Zia Dor? If yes - it is not logical at all. I think you should stick to the topic where your think you have strength.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with folks being religious. It gives a unique dimension to the social fabric of the society. Problem comes when ideologies get saturated. Not just ideologies getting saturated, NOTHING should get saturated - race, color, culture, capital, population density... ANYTHING. Saturation magnifies risk of a failure/disaster far more than something good coming out of it. I like to say this about crowds - "The IQ of a crowd is inversely proportional to its size". You see my point? I came to bump into this issue when studying market manipulations and suppression of volatility. The rest was sorted out for me by Nassim Taleb.
About Islam, I am truly fascinated by this ideology. I am not saying this because I am a muslim. I would have said that if I were a Philosophy major.. I love talking to Islamic Scholars here in the US. Most of them are converts. You listen to them and you'd be amazed at the fresh point of view they put forth. Seriously.. amazing stuff. But then you ask yourself "then why the heck is there a mess in the Muslim countries?" And then answer comes very close to something like this "Its because they are mixing their culture with religion" and ofcourse the lack of tolerance.
About Islam, I am truly fascinated by this ideology. I am not saying this because I am a muslim. I would have said that if I were a Philosophy major.. I love talking to Islamic Scholars here in the US. Most of them are converts. You listen to them and you'd be amazed at the fresh point of view they put forth. Seriously.. amazing stuff. But then you ask yourself "then why the heck is there a mess in the Muslim countries?" And then answer comes very close to something like this "Its because they are mixing their culture with religion" and ofcourse the lack of tolerance.
Dont take it personal chief. I am sharing my views against the system/culture.
کچھ خاص نہیں ہوگا،،اگلے دس سال میں امریکن کمپنیز بھارت کا جمع شدہ مال کسی نہ کسی طور حاصل کرلیں گی،
اور کیا ہونا ہے
