Homo Sapiens : The Birth of Humanity

[RustamShah]

If I tell him the mobile im using to write this message was found in a desert out of nothing and its my theory that the mobile glass is made of glass, plastic body out of oil and board out of metal which is easily found in the sand after millions of years I found this amazing mobile which works properly.
He will definitely recommend me to visit a psychiatrist.
Yet they believe this universe came out of nothing which is way more complex and inteligently designed.

That is why I told you earlier that its beyond your ken to understand it, now you have introduced a new subject in the discussion, creation story !! Lol..

 

[ZenoInTheZoo]

Most people forget its called a "Theory" of evolution, because there is absolutely Zero proof to back it up.. Its not called Law of evolution.

Once again total lack of knowledge and stupidity. Just because you are happened to be a Muslim, does not mean you should stop using your god gifted brains. Evolution is proven so many times that not accepting it as a fact is only considered stupidity in real world. However, in fairy-tale world of religious ignorence, we see responses like many have written above. No problem. I have read above that Evolution is just a 'Theory' ?? I guess what you were trying to say is its a "Hypotheses". I guess you don't even know what is the difference between a "Theory" and a "Hypotheses" ?

A theory can be a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine.

When it come to Einstein's theory of relativity, you have no problem accepting it ? why then when it come to theory of evolution, you have different standards ? A simply, because it conflicts with your religious views. By the way, all who believe that Adam was the first ever human on earth, please do tell me, if its the case, then who were the Neanthertals ? Did Allah made them before Adam but did not mention in Quran for some reason ? What is logical to conclude ? over a long period of time many species evolved and Modern human, the Homo sapiens survived, or Adam was the first ever human created is not correct and had different meaning which you don't understand ?

I don't think they way u have started this debate is beneficial to ur purpose. u have taken an adversarial position from the start questioning the intellect of those as stupidity who differ with u and indulging into polemics.

Understanding a natural phenomenon is a function of the state of the knowledge and art which both in turn are time (and, to some extent, also space) specific.

Theory of evolution is a very useful scientific framework to understand certain natural phenomena. It was conceived and is applied to understand the origin of life and species on the earth. Unfortunately in debates like going on this tread, it is taken to be only applicable to human specie which definitely is not the case. Darwin in his thesis just postulated a hypothesis about the origins of the human specie with potent arguments but did not proved any thing in definite terms. And remember this was just his one of the many hypotheses which were even sounder than this one. So, please get the perspective and context of the debate right.

Much before Darwin, theory of evolution has been revealed/told/narrated in religious scriptures. It does not mean that humans evolved from apes/monkeys/chimpanzees. Neither Darwin claimed that with any definitive evidence. What Darwin did was properly postulated, framed, refined and presented it in a scientific jargon/terminology. And that is what all the scientific methodology and science community are doing world over!


Even today human specie is evolving. Recently there was a report on BBC which based on scientific research suggested that in about 2000 years time humans would markedly look different than what they look now. Based on/using computer graphing techniques, the report even generated/projected/presented some futuristic images as well.

 

[ZenoInTheZoo]

I don't believe my ancestors were monkeys .... those who believe so , please let them , bro its democracy you can believe and do every thing ....

no need to fight !!!!!

Understanding a natural phenomenon is a function of the state of the knowledge and art which both in turn are time (and, to some extent, also space) specific.

Theory of evolution is a very useful scientific framework to understand certain natural phenomena. It was conceived and is applied to understand the origin of life and species on the earth. Unfortunately in debates like going on this tread, it is taken to be only applicable to human specie which definitely is not the case. Darwin in his thesis just postulated a hypothesis about the origins of the human specie with potent arguments but did not proved any thing in definite terms. And remember this was just his one of the many hypotheses which were even sounder than this one. So, please get the perspective and context of the debate right.

Much before Darwin, theory of evolutionhas been revealed/told/narrated in religious scriptures. It does not mean that humans evolved from apes/monkeys/chimpanzees. Neither Darwin claimed that with any definitive evidence. What Darwin did was properly postulated, framed, refined and presented it in a scientific jargon/terminology. And that is what all the scientific methodology and science community are doing world over!


Even today human specie is evolving. Recently there was a report on BBC which based on scientific research suggested that in about 2000 years time humans would markedly look different than what they look now. Based on/using computer graphing techniques, the report even generated/projected/presented some futuristic images as well.

 

[RustamShah]

In Africa even today we see humans very tall and very dark, but that does not mean they are Neanderthal, they are humans, but due to their environments and their diets they may look like something else to you and me but they are humans. You may call them by other names, not nice though but than to prove one theories some may call them as such.

Mera Bhai/sister Asqri ji, I don't think you don't understand the difference between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals, an african guy today is a Homo Sapiense, regardless of his skin color or makeup where one time, there were two relatively distinct species living on earth, namely Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals, and Neanderthals are gone now, they are wiped out from scene. I would suggests you to read about both of them before comenting on the subject.

 

[VoteME]

Once again total lack of knowledge and stupidity. Just because you are happened to be a Muslim, does not mean you should stop using your god gifted brains. Evolution is proven so many times that not accepting it as a fact is only considered stupidity in real world. However, in fairy-tale world of religious ignorence, we see responses like many have written above. No problem. I have read above that Evolution is just a 'Theory' ?? I guess what you were trying to say is its a "Hypotheses". I guess you don't even know what is the difference between a "Theory" and a "Hypotheses" ?

A theory can be a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine.

When it come to Einstein's theory of relativity, you have no problem accepting it ? why then when it come to theory of evolution, you have different standards ? A simply, because it conflicts with your religious views. By the way, all who believe that Adam was the first ever human on earth, please do tell me, if its the case, then who were the Neanthertals ? Did Allah made them before Adam but did not mention in Quran for some reason ? What is logical to conclude ? over a long period of time many species evolved and Modern human, the Homo sapiens survived, or Adam was the first ever human created is not correct and had different meaning which you don't understand ?

Please don't equate Theory of relativity with evolution theory. The elements which comprise relativity theory are not based on hypothesis, but rather on empirical discovery. These are then developed to theoretical-mathematical descriptions. Where as for evolution theory this can not be done, we can talk on molecular level evolution or changes but we can never discuss/prove on changes of kind theory, that is fish turning into dinosaurs, etc. For your convenience, then people like you hide behind the curtain of time and argue that it takes millions of years for that, for which you and no one can be sure about. So for that reason evolution theory is a failed theory.

 

[VoteME]

Understanding a natural phenomenon is a function of the state of the knowledge and art which both in turn are time (and, to some extent, also space) specific.

Theory of evolution is a very useful scientific framework to understand certain natural phenomena. It was conceived and is applied to understand the origin of life and species on the earth. Unfortunately in debates like going on this tread, it is taken to be only applicable to human specie which definitely is not the case. Darwin in his thesis just postulated a hypothesis about the origins of the human specie with potent arguments but did not proved any thing in definite terms. And remember this was just his one of the many hypotheses which were even sounder than this one. So, please get the perspective and context of the debate right.

Much before Darwin, theory of evolutionhas been revealed/told/narrated in religious scriptures. It does not mean that humans evolved from apes/monkeys/chimpanzees. Neither Darwin claimed that with any definitive evidence. What Darwin did was properly postulated, framed, refined and presented it in a scientific jargon/terminology. And that is what all the scientific methodology and science community are doing world over!


Even today human specie is evolving. Recently there was a report on BBC which based on scientific research suggested that in about 2000 years time humans would markedly look different than what they look now. Based on/using computer graphing techniques, the report even generated/projected/presented some futuristic images as well.

With this I can agree, but change of kind like cat turning into a dog I can not agree. We were created as human and there must have been different evolutionary changes according to our environment, but not that major that a whole kind is changed into another.

 

[khalilqureshi]

I was always wondering about that MISSING LINK. One day while I was going to Sydney Harbor, I saw Charles Darwin,s poster sized portrait and that portrait solved the mystery. Charles might not have thought about himself otherwise he might have solved that mystery, which has baffled the humanity and mankind would not have been in trouble since then.

 

[RustamShah]

Please don't equate Theory of relativity with evolution theory. The elements which comprise relativity theory are not based on hypothesis, but rather on empirical discovery. These are then developed to theoretical-mathematical descriptions. Where as for evolution theory this can not be done, we can talk on molecular level evolution or changes but we can never discuss/prove on changes of kind theory, that is fish turning into dinosaurs, etc. For your convenience, then people like you hide behind the curtain of time and argue that it takes millions of years for that, for which you and no one can be sure about. So for that reason evolution theory is a failed theory.

I don't know why you guys are champion of making lofty claims, first of all start calling Theory of Relativity as a Law of Relativity from now one and 2nd, start learning about evolution because you don't anything, specially when you make such claims without thinking about it. Here is a small information for your education. Have a look.

An introduction to Evolution

 

[Sohail Shuja]

Folks, this topic had been subject to many debates for over than a century now. Looking at it from religious perspective and negating it out rightly is as naive as accepting it blindly. This is truly a scientific topic that may not be truly comprehended by a common layman like me. The discussion upon it should be highly objective and should be kept between people who really have a thorough background knowledge on it.

However, for the people who believe in this theory should also know that scientific knowledge is also evolving. Something which is regarded as "truth" today, may become null and void after another breakthrough, e.g. a few years back, we heard everywhere that margarine is better than butter and we used to see doctors prescribing it to their patients. But, nowadays, there had been another breakthrough which proved that butter is better than margarine (reference link). Same was true for Neil Bohr's atomic model. So, it is the rule of science that it will never assert something as the ultimate truth, specially in the field of biology, because it is very "organic" in nature.

For the religiously inclined people, we should also keep in mind that there had been incidences in our history when people opposed the theories just on the basis of their religious beliefs and interpretations. But at the end, we had to accede to the reality that somethings are also just our own interpretations of our religious texts and history, while the reality and truth may be far beyond our interpretations. e.g. when printing press was invented, there was a ban on it, specially for printing Quran.... since when there appeared a need for photograph on ID documents, our religious scholars changed their interpretations regarding it and made it allowable and when man landed on the moon, some people outwardly rejected it just by saying that moon is on 4th level of sky and no one can even reach the first.

 

[VoteME]

I don't know why you guys are champion of making lofty claims, first of all start calling Theory of Relativity as a Law of Relativity from now one and 2nd, start learning about evolution because you don't anything, specially when you make such claims without thinking about it. Here is a small information for your education. Have a look.

An introduction to Evolution

These are not claims give me one example of evolution being carried out from one kind into another. Don't start yapping, stay calm and answer. Ahh never-mind, you are just fixated to have every one believe what you believe.

 

[RustamShah]

These are not claims give me one example of evolution being carried out from one kind into another. Don't start yapping, stay calm and answer. Ahh never-mind, you are just fixated to have every one believe what you believe.

Read the link Champ ...Ahh never-mind, you are just fixated to have every one believe what you believe. ! right ?

 

[VoteME]

Read the link Champ ...Ahh never-mind, you are just fixated to have every one believe what you believe. ! right ?

The thing is that most of forum members believe the same what I believe well more or less, its you who has to convince not me, also you are defending a defected theory not me, also I asked you for an example, for which I know what the answer will be, that is a good way to avoid a question. Shoving a link of a book or 3 hour video etc.

 

[rolnrol]

Oh come on guys we have the proof of evolution rustamshah is the missing link.

 

[Sadia Hashmi]

Once again total lack of knowledge and stupidity. Just because you are happened to be a Muslim, does not mean you should stop using your god gifted brains. Evolution is proven so many times that not accepting it as a fact is only considered stupidity in real world. However, in fairy-tale world of religious ignorence, we see responses like many have written above. No problem. I have read above that Evolution is just a 'Theory' ?? I guess what you were trying to say is its a "Hypotheses". I guess you don't even know what is the difference between a "Theory" and a "Hypotheses" ?

A theory can be a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine.

When it come to Einstein's theory of relativity, you have no problem accepting it ? why then when it come to theory of evolution, you have different standards ? A simply, because it conflicts with your religious views. By the way, all who believe that Adam was the first ever human on earth, please do tell me, if its the case, then who were the Neanthertals ? Did Allah made them before Adam but did not mention in Quran for some reason ? What is logical to conclude ? over a long period of time many species evolved and Modern human, the Homo sapiens survived, or Adam was the first ever human created is not correct and had different meaning which you don't understand ?

if someone does nt agree with u and opposes ur mentioned theory u say he is stupid,in the next phase u would beat him,,,if he remains on the opposite side u would kill him,,,,gud, u r a true follower of taliban.

 

[JusticeLover]

thanks for sharing its a thought provoking video enjoyed it very well.

 

[Humi]

hey we dont come from monkeys even if we sometimes act like them :P

 

[jason]

@RustomShah why has this Evolution stopped why we dont see apes turning into humans these days ?

Theory of evolution, states that it is a continuing process of evolution but by seeing that we have remained homosapians and not evolved into someting else proves that this theory is not correct.

 

[ASQR1]

Mera Bhai/sister Asqri ji, I don't think you don't understand the difference between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals, an african guy today is a Homo Sapiense, regardless of his skin color or makeup where one time, there were two relatively distinct species living on earth, namely Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals, and Neanderthals are gone now, they are wiped out from scene. I would suggests you to read about both of them before comenting on the subject.

My question was and is why they were wiped out and how come they were the one wiped out and not the other two. if the one was to be wiped out considering logically, it would or should have been the one at the bottom of the wrung, and that meant wiped/disappearing of the lower one, the apes. Please enlighten.

Neanderthal being in middle disappearing make no sense. thanks. by the way I am a man and old one to boot.

 

[KhanHaripur]

That is why I told you earlier that its beyond your ken to understand it, now you have introduced a new subject in the discussion, creation story !! Lol..

Its shows your hypocrisy how you avoided my Question for the third time.

 

[KhanHaripur]

if someone does nt agree with u and opposes ur mentioned theory u say he is stupid,in the next phase u would beat him,,,if he remains on the opposite side u would kill him,,,,gud, u r a true follower of taliban.

Its arrogance which stops them to think rationally you can see his comments avoiding questions and personal attacks.