Hindu Leader Revert To Islam (Heart-rending Story)

chitra

Councller (250+ posts)
mr. chitra what the hell are you talking about. and what is that stupid pseudo-science about gold being converted to any element or scientific "irremovability". there is no term like that, there is thermodynamic irreversibility but even that in reality is not a true concept. don't spew some nonsense when you don't know what to say. islam is a great religion, but there are much better philosophies which have evolved post-enlightenment. everybody including islamic world agrees to that actively or passively. for e.g. capitalism as a philosophy has completely defeated islam. so accept that and move on.
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Rightly said, never argue with a fool, he will bring you to his level and will beat you with his experience. Remember, Dignity does not float down from heaven. It can neither be purchased nor manufactured. Its a reward reserved for those who labor with diligence. You are using Physics terminology and the load is on Capitalism. WOW! Permit me to guide you idiot that what I stated is not your pigeon as it is something related to chemical engineering principles and is Organic Chemistry. In addition, I have done M.Sc in Chemistry and am not an individual who shouts louder to prove that he is knowledgeable. No further arguments from my side with a person of cheap mentality and mischief mongered mentality. Stay where you are and among them who think that "You are son of a gun" and give you un due importance.
 

jujuju

Banned
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Rightly said, never argue with a fool, he will bring you to his level and will beat you with his experience. Remember, Dignity does not float down from heaven. It can neither be purchased nor manufactured. Its a reward reserved for those who labor with diligence. You are using Physics terminology and the load is on Capitalism. WOW! Permit me to guide you idiot that what I stated is not your pigeon as it is something related to chemical engineering principles and is Organic Chemistry. In addition, I have done M.Sc in Chemistry and am not an individual who shouts louder to prove that he is knowledgeable. No further arguments from my side with a person of cheap mentality and mischief mongered mentality. Stay where you are and among them who think that "You are son of a gun" and give you un due importance.

i dont even know what you are saying. in fact i cant understand one sentence of what you said, except where you claim irremovability is a chemistry term and that you have a chemistry degree. a basic scholar search in google gives me no such idea that irremovability is a term which the scientific community ascribes any special meaning. the rest of your reply does not make any sense to me. moreover i have no interest in knowing what degree you have.
in any case, you have refused to deal with any part of my argument and instead resorted to just insult me and call me names, which you are free to do so.
 

Agarwal

Councller (250+ posts)
jujuju
have read this thread at least 3 times and didn't find any where that CHITRA ever claimed about 'irremovability' as a chemistry term. since all members are invited to give their opinion I have utilized my rights to answer. why argue when you does not understand terminology. i am just a college level person but can find sense in the chemical equation of elements. no awards or cash prices are given to prove we are genius. let ignore it.
 

jujuju

Banned
Chitra said
Few elements (metals) can be converted in to GOLD by change in their chemical formula. Its Chemistry; But GOLD can never be changed to make an other (lesser) element. When scientific irremovability is authentic (in above case) then how come a Muslim (believer) can converts to become a Hindu, Jew or Christian?

when he says scientific irremovability in above case, what does he mean. anyways the analogy is also very poor as there is nothing inherently lesser or greater about any metal vis-a-vis gold and all are inter-convertible in the nuclear physics regime. I am also arguing in my previous post that this term is not standard in chemistry. Thats all.More importantly to Faisal Vohra's question I had answered that Smt. Annapurna Devi, India's greatest sitar and surbahar player converted to hinduism. But it seems the moderators are not very tolerant to such information. So long.
jujuju
have read this thread at least 3 times and didn't find any where that CHITRA ever claimed about 'irremovability' as a chemistry term. since all members are invited to give their opinion I have utilized my rights to answer. why argue when you does not understand terminology. i am just a college level person but can find sense in the chemical equation of elements. no awards or cash prices are given to prove we are genius. let ignore it.
 

freshnkool

Minister (2k+ posts)
Hindu Leader Revert To Islam-Heart rending Story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh394UVfwvE

Sorry friends i gave the name to this thread in controversial way ( specially sorry to indian friends, i wanted to everyone to see speically to those who want use violence in islam)

this a heart touching story, and a must watch for everyone

specially for those who want to spread islam by way of hate, conspiracy theories and violence,

there is only one way of spreading islam and that the way which our prophet used, thats uswa-e-hassan, ( good behavior and treatment of other human beings weather they are muslims or none muslims or even enemies)

people were not made muslims with swords, voilence and hate, Allah forbades it our prophet forbade it, human values forbade it.

if if you hate someones thoughts , still be good to them, still do not let your anger take over your what islam has taught us

regards,
 

moazzamniaz

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Indiana ki sazish (must watch)

A similar incident in recent past which got a lot of media coverage, in which a hindu terrorist was so moved by the good behavior of a muslim boy in jail that he voluntarily confessed of his crimes to set the dozens of innocent muslims free(though later on, this whole issue entangled in political malfeasance).


Aseemanand owns up to strike on Mecca Masjid

NEW DELHI: Aseemanand, the hardline Hindutva swami, has confessed to his involvement in the terror attack on Hyderabad's Mecca Masjid, while confirming that bomb attacks on the mosques in Malegaon (in 2006 and 2008) as well as the Samjhauta Express were carried out by Hindu radicals and he knew about it.

What reportedly led to the confession: the swami was cared for in jail by a Muslim, who was wrongly arrested in the Mecca Masjid blast, leading to the act of "atonement".

Aseemanand aka Jatin Chatterjee, born Naba Kumar Sarkar, has linked Hindu radicals also to the blast in a minority-dominated locality in Gujarat's Modasa town.

Further, he said RSS leader Indresh Kumar was part of the plan hatched to avenge bomb attacks on temples, but said that militant Gorakhpur MP Yogi Adityanath provided no help to one of the accused.

Indresh, Aseemanand claimed, helped enlist members of the saffron terror plot, including Sunil Joshi and Ramchandra Kalsangra, aka Ramji. In a statement before a magistrate under Section 164 CrPC (admissible in a court of law) the swami also identified the group of radicals who were part of the 'bomb-for-bomb' plan.


He said the Hindu radicals allegedly attacked mosques and the train carrying Pakistani citizens as part of the 'bomb-for-bomb' plan to retaliate against jihadi terror.

Before making his confession, Aseemanand reportedly told the magistrate that he knew he could be sentenced to death but he still wanted to make the confession because of the arrest of Kaleem, wrongly it now transpires, for the Mecca Masjid blast. Kaleem's plight motivated Aseemanand to think of "atonement" so that innocents don't suffer.


The confession reveals that the network behind saffron terror was far stronger and motivated, and its reach wider than suspected so far.

It cannot be used as evidence in other cases of alleged saffron terror since they are being investigated by other agencies. But it can help with other probes.

Also, it raises serious questions about the course of investigation into the 2006 Malegaon blast, considering that the Maharasthra ATS and CBI have already chargesheeted Muslim accused.

According to Aseemanand, the key figures in the Hindutva terror conspiracy are Joshi (who was allegedly killed by his co-conspirators), Sandeep Dange and Kalsangra, both of whom are absconding, and about 10 others who have already been nabbed.

Explaining his motivation, Aseemanand told interrogators that he was angry by the attacks on Hindu temples by "Muslim terrorists". "This caused great concern and anger in me. I used to share my concern about the growing menace of Islamic terorism with Bharat Ritheshwar of Valsad," he said.

But it was the attack on Varanasi's Sankatmochan temple which proved to be the last straw for the swami who had so far been known for his forceful opposition to proselytization by Christian missionaries in Gujarat's tribal Dangs area.

Interestingly, Aseemanand told the magistrate who recorded his statement that he decided to confess because of Kaleem, who was his co-inmate in Chanchalguda prison. Kaleem, a mobile phone seller, had to spend one-and-a-half years in jail in connection with the Mecca Masjid blast, a crime which has now been established as the handiwork of Hindutva radicals. He landed up in the same jail, this time for a different offence, at a time when Aseemanand was also lodged there.

He took great care of the swami. The gesture moved Aseemanand to such an extent to make him to atone by way of confession so that the "real culprits can be punished and no innocent has to suffer".

"During my interaction with Kaleem, I learnt that he was previously arrested in the Mecca Masjid bomb blast case and he had to spend about one-and-a-half years in prison. During my stay in jail, Kaleem helped me a lot and used to serve me by bringing water, food etc for me. I was very moved by Kaleem's good conduct and my conscience asked me to do prayaschit (penance) by making confessional statement."

Aseemanand owns up to strike on Mecca Masjid - The Times of India
 

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