Hafiz Saeed appeals to TTP to defend Pakistan along with other parties to stop drones
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Re: کیا طالبان ہمارے بھائی ہیں؟
Reputation and image doesn't matter at all the times. Sometime there are other things that are important than image and reputation. For example, when Mush did coup of Nawaz, immediately after Coup his reputation declined at Global level. But at that time, image and reputation were secondry and successful coup action was primary. Same is with Taliban, for them at this time image in media doesn't matter what matters is that they dominate the corrupt system of Pakistan. Image would be built later.
Reputation and image doesn't matter at all the times. Sometime there are other things that are important than image and reputation. For example, when Mush did coup of Nawaz, immediately after Coup his reputation declined at Global level. But at that time, image and reputation were secondry and successful coup action was primary. Same is with Taliban, for them at this time image in media doesn't matter what matters is that they dominate the corrupt system of Pakistan. Image would be built later.
Re: کیا طالبان ہمارے بھائی ہیں؟
Punjab minister asks for mercy from Taliban, earns woman’s scorn
http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2...ks-for-mercy-from-taliban-earns-womans-scorn/
After the chief minister of Pakistan’s biggest province reportedly asked the Taliban to spare his region from attacks, he kicked off an uproar and earned the scorn of a woman member of a provincial parliament, who sarcastically offered him her scarf and said “the women of the frontier province” would protect him.
Shahbaz Sharif, chief minister of Punjab province, on Sunday said he didn’t understand why the Taliban were targeting the Punjab when his party — the PML-N — and militants alike opposed the policies of former military ruler, General Pervez Musharraf, who allied with the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks.
“Gen. Musharraf planned a bloodbath of innocent Muslims at the behest of others only to prolong his rule, but we in the PML-N opposed his policies and rejected dictation from abroad,” the daily Dawn quoted him as saying. “If the Taliban are also fighting for the same cause then they should not carry out acts of terror in Punjab.” (Where the PML-N rules.)
Shahbaz’s reported remark at an Islamic seminary in the provincial capital of Lahore on Sunday was widely seen as an attempt to appease Taliban militants who have unleashed a wave of bombs and suicide attacks across the country. Just two days before, militants killed 45 people in twin suicide bombings in a high-security zone in Lahore.
Because of such attacks, Pakistanis have generally been supportive of the military campaign against militant enclaves in the volatile border regions in the northwest, although the U.S.-led war on al Qaeda militants and their allies is highly unpopular in Pakistan.
But Shahbaz’s remarks were too much for one Nighat Orakzai, the woman who on Monday accused the chief minister of cowardice.
“The statement shows the chief minister of Punjab is afraid of the Taliban. I offer my dupatta (scarf) to him. He should wear this and sit in the chief minister’s house. The women of the frontier province are ready to protect him,” she said as she threw her scarf on the floor of the North West Frontier Provincial Assembly.
On Monday, Shahbaz issued a clarification, saying that he was quoted “out of context” but that wasn’t enough for Orakzai.
On Wednesday, she expanded on her remarks to Reuters: “I am living in the NWFP where we see bombings and suicide attacks every day,” she said. “If he is so scared of the Taliban, then we Pashtun sisters and brothers can come and protect him.”
Shahbaz’s reported remark is dominating Pakistani media, with television channels hosting talk shows and newspapers brimming with critical editorials.
“The absurdity of these comments cannot be overstated. Not only is this statement a foolish one, it is a highly insensitive one,” the liberal newspaper Daily Times said in its editorial. “The suspicion against PML-N that it has been harbouring ties with banned militant outfits has now been all but proved,” the Daily Times said.
“Essentially, Mr. (Shahbaz) Sharif has argued that his party, the PML-N, shares a common cause with the Taliban,” Dawn newspaper said in editorial titled “Sharif and the Taliban”.
The PML-N is led by Shahbaz’s elder brother, Nawaz Sharif. It is a major political party of Pakistan but its power base lies in Punjab, the most populous and politically important province of the country.
Shahbaz’s comments also laid bare ethnic and provincial tensions that have been inflamed by the campaign of violence by the mainly Pashtun Taliban. Though most of the Taliban violence has been focused in the mainly ethnic Pashtun North West Frontier Province on the Afghan border, the militants have carried out several high profile attacks in Punjab in recent years.
Some Punjabis consider the Taliban a Pashtun problem and not a problem for all of Pakistan — or for them. Indeed, political opponents accused Shahbaz of promoting “parochial politics”. Questions have also been raised about the stance of his elder brother and PML-N chief, Nawaz Sharif.
Nawaz Sharif is out of the country and has not commented, but Shahbaz’s remark could prove embarrassing to his brother, particularly because newspapers recently published pictures of the Punjab law minister loyal to the Sharif brothers campaigning in a by-election with leaders of an outlawed Islamic militant group.
Critics have long accused the elder Sharif of being sympathetic to Islamists. He had close links with conservative religious groups during his rule in the 1990s.
Even Nawaz’s old foe, Musharraf, has gotten in on the act.
“Nawaz Sharif is a closet Taliban. … He will cause major devastation for Pakistan,” he told the Urdu language service of the Voice of America. Musharraf toppled Sharif in a military coup in 1999.
Punjab minister asks for mercy from Taliban, earns woman’s scorn
http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan/2...ks-for-mercy-from-taliban-earns-womans-scorn/
After the chief minister of Pakistan’s biggest province reportedly asked the Taliban to spare his region from attacks, he kicked off an uproar and earned the scorn of a woman member of a provincial parliament, who sarcastically offered him her scarf and said “the women of the frontier province” would protect him.
Shahbaz Sharif, chief minister of Punjab province, on Sunday said he didn’t understand why the Taliban were targeting the Punjab when his party — the PML-N — and militants alike opposed the policies of former military ruler, General Pervez Musharraf, who allied with the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks.
“Gen. Musharraf planned a bloodbath of innocent Muslims at the behest of others only to prolong his rule, but we in the PML-N opposed his policies and rejected dictation from abroad,” the daily Dawn quoted him as saying. “If the Taliban are also fighting for the same cause then they should not carry out acts of terror in Punjab.” (Where the PML-N rules.)
Shahbaz’s reported remark at an Islamic seminary in the provincial capital of Lahore on Sunday was widely seen as an attempt to appease Taliban militants who have unleashed a wave of bombs and suicide attacks across the country. Just two days before, militants killed 45 people in twin suicide bombings in a high-security zone in Lahore.
Because of such attacks, Pakistanis have generally been supportive of the military campaign against militant enclaves in the volatile border regions in the northwest, although the U.S.-led war on al Qaeda militants and their allies is highly unpopular in Pakistan.
But Shahbaz’s remarks were too much for one Nighat Orakzai, the woman who on Monday accused the chief minister of cowardice.
“The statement shows the chief minister of Punjab is afraid of the Taliban. I offer my dupatta (scarf) to him. He should wear this and sit in the chief minister’s house. The women of the frontier province are ready to protect him,” she said as she threw her scarf on the floor of the North West Frontier Provincial Assembly.
On Monday, Shahbaz issued a clarification, saying that he was quoted “out of context” but that wasn’t enough for Orakzai.
On Wednesday, she expanded on her remarks to Reuters: “I am living in the NWFP where we see bombings and suicide attacks every day,” she said. “If he is so scared of the Taliban, then we Pashtun sisters and brothers can come and protect him.”
Shahbaz’s reported remark is dominating Pakistani media, with television channels hosting talk shows and newspapers brimming with critical editorials.
“The absurdity of these comments cannot be overstated. Not only is this statement a foolish one, it is a highly insensitive one,” the liberal newspaper Daily Times said in its editorial. “The suspicion against PML-N that it has been harbouring ties with banned militant outfits has now been all but proved,” the Daily Times said.
“Essentially, Mr. (Shahbaz) Sharif has argued that his party, the PML-N, shares a common cause with the Taliban,” Dawn newspaper said in editorial titled “Sharif and the Taliban”.
The PML-N is led by Shahbaz’s elder brother, Nawaz Sharif. It is a major political party of Pakistan but its power base lies in Punjab, the most populous and politically important province of the country.
Shahbaz’s comments also laid bare ethnic and provincial tensions that have been inflamed by the campaign of violence by the mainly Pashtun Taliban. Though most of the Taliban violence has been focused in the mainly ethnic Pashtun North West Frontier Province on the Afghan border, the militants have carried out several high profile attacks in Punjab in recent years.
Some Punjabis consider the Taliban a Pashtun problem and not a problem for all of Pakistan — or for them. Indeed, political opponents accused Shahbaz of promoting “parochial politics”. Questions have also been raised about the stance of his elder brother and PML-N chief, Nawaz Sharif.
Nawaz Sharif is out of the country and has not commented, but Shahbaz’s remark could prove embarrassing to his brother, particularly because newspapers recently published pictures of the Punjab law minister loyal to the Sharif brothers campaigning in a by-election with leaders of an outlawed Islamic militant group.
Critics have long accused the elder Sharif of being sympathetic to Islamists. He had close links with conservative religious groups during his rule in the 1990s.
Even Nawaz’s old foe, Musharraf, has gotten in on the act.
“Nawaz Sharif is a closet Taliban. … He will cause major devastation for Pakistan,” he told the Urdu language service of the Voice of America. Musharraf toppled Sharif in a military coup in 1999.
insaf_tiger
Banned
Re: کیا طالبان ہمارے بھائی ہیں؟
Jo kabaili apni marzi say pakistan mein shamil howey jinhon nay a ad kashmir a ad karwaya on ko bhoon dalo ... han jismulk nay pakitan pay attack kia jis nay baqool timharey moqti bani banai jo balochistan ko bangladesh banana chatay hain woh tuhmaray taya abu or kahla asma jhanger ka saga ball thakray hai woh tumharey asli Bhai hain om say aman ki asha zaroor pori karna kiyon on mein or tum mein sirf border ka farq hai .. ab jab line of Controle par koi paki soldier marain tu mithai lay jana waga border ..
insaf_tiger
Banned
Re: کیا طالبان ہمارے بھائی ہیں؟
Yeh pakistan bhi doniya ka ajeeb or wahid mulk hai jahan operation ke hami mohibewatan or dam ke mukhalif mohibe watan miltay hain ..yahan ki army pehlay 2 number or chor loag agay lati hai phir oss par or oss ke hamiytiyon par operation kar daiti hai.. pakistan doniya ka wahid mulk hai jahan west pakistan minority nay east pakistan majority ko ghadar karar dai diya .. yahan prhlay doniya ka third class ad i oth kar pehlay mqm banai phir ossi par janah por ka daram kar ke operation kar dia. Pehlay talban banay phir dollar marnay ke milay tu on bhi operation kar dia .aik captain hamaad ke liye balouchistan aag mein jhonk dia .
Yeh pakistan bhi doniya ka ajeeb or wahid mulk hai jahan operation ke hami mohibewatan or dam ke mukhalif mohibe watan miltay hain ..yahan ki army pehlay 2 number or chor loag agay lati hai phir oss par or oss ke hamiytiyon par operation kar daiti hai.. pakistan doniya ka wahid mulk hai jahan west pakistan minority nay east pakistan majority ko ghadar karar dai diya .. yahan prhlay doniya ka third class ad i oth kar pehlay mqm banai phir ossi par janah por ka daram kar ke operation kar dia. Pehlay talban banay phir dollar marnay ke milay tu on bhi operation kar dia .aik captain hamaad ke liye balouchistan aag mein jhonk dia .
insaf_tiger
Banned
Re: کیا طالبان ہمارے بھائی ہیں؟
Jis mulk ka qomi tarana .. pak sir zameen .... yani jo sir pak ho ga woh zeemen pay hi para milay ga . Or badzat shad baad hon gai .wahan leader nore jesay or molvi fazlu jesay hi hon gay or awam baghi talban hi ho gi koi kisi shakal mein tu koi kisi shakal mein
Jis mulk ka qomi tarana .. pak sir zameen .... yani jo sir pak ho ga woh zeemen pay hi para milay ga . Or badzat shad baad hon gai .wahan leader nore jesay or molvi fazlu jesay hi hon gay or awam baghi talban hi ho gi koi kisi shakal mein tu koi kisi shakal mein
I Love Muhammad (PBUH)
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: کیا طالبان ہمارے بھائی ہیں؟
Life of our beloved Prophet pbuh is an example for us. He is rehamtullilalameen but still had to fight against those who wanted to destroy Islam and Muslims. Our Prophet pbuh tried his best to avoid wars but when it came to survival then with the orders and help of Allah He fought . Some times war Becomes necessary to gain the very peace we are talking about .
I am all for peace but when your survival is in danger then there is no other option. We have seen long enough to understand what these terrorists have done to those who differ from their ideology . What sort of animals are those who destroy tombs and hang the corpses of dead people just because they belong to different sect.
These are the same people who behead people after checking their names on identity cards and then post the video online to show what great soldiers they are. And worst thing is , they are doing this to enforce the Sharia of Our Beloved Prophet pbuh. I can only say
Life of our beloved Prophet pbuh is an example for us. He is rehamtullilalameen but still had to fight against those who wanted to destroy Islam and Muslims. Our Prophet pbuh tried his best to avoid wars but when it came to survival then with the orders and help of Allah He fought . Some times war Becomes necessary to gain the very peace we are talking about .
I am all for peace but when your survival is in danger then there is no other option. We have seen long enough to understand what these terrorists have done to those who differ from their ideology . What sort of animals are those who destroy tombs and hang the corpses of dead people just because they belong to different sect.
These are the same people who behead people after checking their names on identity cards and then post the video online to show what great soldiers they are. And worst thing is , they are doing this to enforce the Sharia of Our Beloved Prophet pbuh. I can only say
Pak1stani
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: کیا طالبان ہمارے بھائی ہیں؟
Then you have to start from Mian sahib;-) ;-) ;-)
Then you have to start from Mian sahib;-) ;-) ;-)
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A Real pakistani makes fun of the cowardice of our Sold out Army : Please check the video below
A Real pakistani makes fun of the cowardice of our Sold out Army : Please check the video below
Raaz
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
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Worst Pakistani ever seen ... he name himself as Sahib .......look at stupidity.
Worst Pakistani ever seen ... he name himself as Sahib .......look at stupidity.
Khuram Shehzad Jafri
Minister (2k+ posts)
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Cheeta Chaalbaaz
Banned
Re: کیا طالبان ہمارے بھائی ہیں؟
بھائی جی
میرے طالبان اور طالبان خان کے بارے میں دو جملوں سے ہی آپکے ہاتھ پاؤں پھول گئے ہیں اور آپ تایا ابو اور خالہ جیسے ذاتی حملوں اور قومی ترانے کی توہین کرنے پر اور پاکستانی قوم کو برا بھلا کہنے پر اتر آئے ہیں
میں عموما بچہ بچونگڑا پارٹی سے بحث کرنے سے گریز کرتا ہوں کیونکہ وہ لا جواب ہو کر ماں باپ تک کی گالیاں دینے پر اتر آتے ہیں
جس طرح میں لعنتی طالبان اور انکے حامیوں کا مخالف ہوں اسی طرح ان سیکولر انتہا پسندوں کا بھی مخالف ہوں جو وقتا فوقتا مذھب کے خلاف بھونکتے رہتے ہیں
میرے لیے یہ ملک اور اسکے عوام مقدس ہیں - مجھے ہر اس شخص یا گروپ سے نفرت ہے جو میرے ملک اور عوام کو نقصان پہنچاتا ہے یا نقصان پہنچانے والوں کی بالواسطہ یا بلاواسطہ حمایت کرتا ہے
بھائی جی
میرے طالبان اور طالبان خان کے بارے میں دو جملوں سے ہی آپکے ہاتھ پاؤں پھول گئے ہیں اور آپ تایا ابو اور خالہ جیسے ذاتی حملوں اور قومی ترانے کی توہین کرنے پر اور پاکستانی قوم کو برا بھلا کہنے پر اتر آئے ہیں
میں عموما بچہ بچونگڑا پارٹی سے بحث کرنے سے گریز کرتا ہوں کیونکہ وہ لا جواب ہو کر ماں باپ تک کی گالیاں دینے پر اتر آتے ہیں
جس طرح میں لعنتی طالبان اور انکے حامیوں کا مخالف ہوں اسی طرح ان سیکولر انتہا پسندوں کا بھی مخالف ہوں جو وقتا فوقتا مذھب کے خلاف بھونکتے رہتے ہیں
میرے لیے یہ ملک اور اسکے عوام مقدس ہیں - مجھے ہر اس شخص یا گروپ سے نفرت ہے جو میرے ملک اور عوام کو نقصان پہنچاتا ہے یا نقصان پہنچانے والوں کی بالواسطہ یا بلاواسطہ حمایت کرتا ہے
Cheeta Chaalbaaz
Banned
khan ahmad
Councller (250+ posts)
Pakistan wasting its great fighting force to defend Pakistan in the event of attack ,that is the people of fata wazeeristan and kpt ,a division of these fighters must be constituted so that these groups become part of country defense team right into army airforce ,they will by theirr calibre will then fight eneimies of Pakistan shoulder to shoulder with other regments.
