Hadith Is Nothing But History, But It Doesn't Have Any Deen, Fiqh Or Aqeeda In It : Javed Ghamdi

Citizen X

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And this is also what I have had said, that on its best day giving it all the leeway one can, hadith is nothing but early Islamic history coming to us via anecdotal reports from 1000s of different people so should be taken with a huge grain if salt.

Anyone who has actually read the complete Bukhari will agree, not just blind followers who have heard a few hadith here and there from their imams or read small pamphlets of hadith.
 

Wake up Pak

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And this is also what I have had said, that on its best day giving it all the leeway one can, hadith is nothing but early Islamic history coming to us via anecdotal reports from 1000s of different people so should be taken with a huge grain if salt.

Anyone who has actually read the complete Bukhari will agree, not just blind followers who have heard a few hadith here and there from their imams or read small pamphlets of hadith.
The problem with the majority of the Muslims is that they don't bother to think & reflect. They are too emotional about the religion they were inculcated in childhood.
 

Wake up Pak

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Not just emotional, but extremely intolerant too.
Yes, intolerant because they think if we go against our parents'/mullahs' fabricated Islam, we might be committing a grave sin.
If I'm not mistaken, there is a verse in the Quran that states Allah does not change the conditions of a nation unless they change what is in themselves.
 

Citizen X

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Yes, intolerant because they think if we go against our parents'/mullahs' fabricated Islam, we might be committing a grave sin.
If I'm not mistaken, there is a verse in the Quran that states Allah does not change the conditions of a nation unless they change what is in themselves.
"Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves."
(Quran 13:11)
 

Wake up Pak

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"Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves."
(Quran 13:11)
The Muslim community faces challenges in various aspects of life due to religious intolerance, sectarian violence, scientific backwardness, moral degradation, and a deficit in democratic practices.
 

Citizen X

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The Muslim community faces challenges in various aspects of life due to religious intolerance, sectarian violence, scientific backwardness, moral degradation, and a deficit in democratic practices.
The irony of it all is you can practice actual Islam without any fear in non muslims countries than you can in countries like Pakistan. What really is sad, now these same bhaands are bringing in their same bhaandpuna to these countries.

How long before one sectarian or intolerant persons kills or attacks another Muslim over religious difference out in the west. Oh wait that has already happened.
 

Wake up Pak

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The irony of it all is you can practice actual Islam without any fear in non muslims countries than you can in countries like Pakistan. What really is sad, now these same bhaands are bringing in their same bhaandpuna to these countries.

How long before one sectarian or intolerant persons kills or attacks another Muslim over religious difference out in the west. Oh wait that has already happened.
They are living in the West, and yet they are spreading man-made religion of intolerance and hate.
 

observer-x

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And this is also what I have had said, that on its best day giving it all the leeway one can, hadith is nothing but early Islamic history
That is why you still have your dead family members rotting in your house?
 

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